Heavenunlimited Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hazard, youre a hero there should be more like your kind. Miss muffet.. From where do you get that he doesnt create illness? Whats your source? How did you come to conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, Heavenunlimited said: Hazard, youre a hero there should be more like your kind. Miss muffet.. From where do you get that he doesnt create illness? Whats your source? How did you come to conclusion? Just common knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenunlimited Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Miss muffet, with all respect, do you trust your own common knowledge, or God the most..? As people shown you,where in the bible clearly shows how demons create disease.. Then could you come with a point that disprove those words from the bible that show demons dont create disease please? Clearly, youre saying that God is lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Heavenunlimited said: Miss muffet, with all respect, do you trust your own common knowledge, or God the most..? As people shown you,where in the bible clearly shows how demons create disease.. Then could you come with a point that disprove those words from the bible that show demons dont create disease please? Clearly, youre saying that God is lying? God created everything in our world. God created Satan as well. So that means that God created all illnesses. Satan has created nothing. He is only a created angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenunlimited Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 God doesnt create illnesses. Everything that is perfect comes from Him. There is nothing dark in Him. Howcome God create illnesses when He is perfect and no darkness? God would never plauge His children with illnesses. If He did He would be evil. So wher do you get that God creates all illnesses? Where in the bible? or where in whats not the bible.. (If not the bible, why put mans word over Gods?) God gave satan free will, just like humans. He choose to rebel, and be evil towards humans. He choose to torment humans with disease. Just because God created him doesnt mean God created illnesses, satan choose himself to misuse his angelic powers. Not God. Are you saying God allows him to and 'just could stop it'? Are you saying evil doesnt/satan doesnt exist? Isnt that what youre saying basically? Thats a new age lie.. Ive heard this kind of reasoning amongst new age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Heavenunlimited said: God doesnt create illnesses. Everything that is perfect comes from Him. There is nothing dark in Him. Howcome God create illnesses when He is perfect and no darkness? God would never plauge His children with illnesses. If He did He would be evil. So wher do you get that God creates all illnesses? Where in the bible? or where in whats not the bible.. (If not the bible, why put mans word over Gods?) God gave satan free will, just like humans. He choose to rebel, and be evil towards humans. He choose to torment humans with disease. Just because God created him doesnt mean God created illnesses, satan choose himself to misuse his angelic powers. Not God. Are you saying God allows him to and 'just could stop it'? Are you saying evil doesnt/satan doesnt exist? Isnt that what youre saying basically? Thats a new age lie.. Ive heard this kind of reasoning amongst new age. God creates everything. We live in a fallen world and have since the fall of Adam and Eve. I am not saying that Satan does not exist. To say that is putting words in my mouth. Satan is a fallen angel and he was created by God. Satan was cast out of heaven by God because of his pride plus 1/3 of the angels in heaven which became the followers of Satan. Who roams the earth now like a roaring lion. But Satan did not create anything and that includes sickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenunlimited Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 sickness and illnesses came into the world because of the first sin, it was the devil himself that caused it and ever since. Satan smiting job directly. Job 2:7-8 satan went out from the presence of THE LORD and afflicted job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head. This text is very clear. Although God allows diseases and illnesses on this planet, the source of it is not God, but the devil himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Heavenunlimited said: sickness and illnesses came into the world because of the first sin, it was the devil himself that caused it and ever since. Satan smiting job directly. Job 2:7-8 satan went out from the presence of THE LORD and afflicted job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head. This text is very clear. Although God allows diseases and illnesses on this planet, the source of it is not God, but the devil himself. Satan deceived Eve. But he did not create sickness. All power and authority belongs to God and Him alone. Satan can not do anything to a human being without God's permission. Why does God allow sickness? I don't know. But I do know these words of Scripture Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenunlimited Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 The bible says that Jesus went aabout doing good and curing all who were harrassed and opressed by the power of the devil. This can only mean one thing. This can only mean that all harrassment and all opression come from the devil and never from God, then Jesus was going against the will of God whenever he delivered someone from it. Jesus never went against his fathers will. The ministry of Jesus was devoted to healing opression because God is devoted to healing opression. Religious traditions teaches that sickness, disease, harassment and opression come from God, but thats not what the bible teaches. every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow nor turning James 1:17 James, the very brother of Jesus, wrote by inspiration of The Holy Spirit when he said that only good and perfect gifts come from the God that never changes. Malachi3:6, Hebrews 13:8 How is it possible for a good God to send sickness into the earth from heaven when there isnt any sickness up there to begin with? Its not only foolish but its unscriptural to believe that sickness, disease, harrasment and oppression comes from the God of love. Adam and Eve opened the door to sickness. Jesus healed the sick and ill, He said my will be. Do you say what the bible says or do you say what tradition, religion and the devil says? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Why does God allow sickness? John 5:8-1421st Century King James Version (KJ21) 8 Jesus said unto him, “Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.” 9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed and walked. Now it was the Sabbath on that day. 10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, “It is the Sabbath day; it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.” 11 He answered them, “He that made me whole said unto me, ‘Take up thy bed and walk.’” 12 Then they asked him, “What man is that who said unto thee, ‘Take up thy bed and walk’?” 13 And he that was healed knew not who it was, for Jesus had removed Himself away, a multitude being in that place. 14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said unto him, “Behold, thou art made whole. Sin no more, . .......................................................................lest a worse thing come unto thee.” 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) Copyright © 1994 by Deuel Enterprises, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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