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  1. HAZARD

    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    Put your thinking cap on. The only time the earth has ever been without form and void was before the 6 days of Gen. 1:3-2:25 when it was made chaos through the fall of Lucifer and the pre-adamites, when God brought the first Great universal flood upon the earth to destroy all life (Gen. 1:2; 2 Peter 3:5-7). The statement without form and void means desolate and empty. The only time when the sun, moon and stars of heaven were forbidden to give light on the earth was in the period before the six days of re-creation, as in Gen. 1;2. There had been light on the earth when it was first created, in the beginning Gen. 1;1, and there has been light ever since the first day of Gen. 1:3-31; so the period of such darkness took place on the earth some time after the beginning and before the restoration to a second habitable state in the six days of Gen. 1:3-2:25. Permanent and eternal laws were given to the sun, moon, and stars at this time as proved by Jer. 31:35-36; Gen. 1:14-19; Ps. 72:5, 17; 89:35-37. The mountains and hills have been moved and will yet by moved by earthquakes, but there never has been a time since Adam to this day, nor will there ever be a time from our day into all eternity that the earth has been or will be without a man, bird, or fruitful place, as seen by Jeremiah, and referred to in V 25. Therefore we are required by facts to associate Jer. 4:23-26 with the same time as that of Gen.1:2; and we are made to realise that there were men, birds, and fruitful places on the earth before Adam's time that were destroyed by the flood of Gen. 1:2; 2 Peter 3:5-7. One thing is certain, Jer. 4:23-26 could not apply to the time of Noah, for at that time the heavens had lights, and there were men, birds, and fruitful places left on the earth after the flood; whereas, in the case of the curse brought upon the original earth, none of these things remained. Therefore,if we rightly divide the Word of Truth we should associate Jer. 23-26 with Gen. 1:2 and 2 Peter 3:5-6, recognising that there had been light, fixed mountains and hills, men, birds, fruitful places and cities on the earth before this curse, and before Adam and the six day work of restoration to a second habitable state as in Gen. 1:3-2; 25. The purpose of God showing Jeremiah the totally destruction of life on the earth in Jer. 4:23-26 was to reveal how the Land of Judah would be destroyed, and to make comparison between the two times. In the original judgment on the whole earth all life had been destroyed but in Judah God was to make an exception; He declared He would not make a full end as on the original earth. Look here, read these scriptures again and see the difference. There were two great floods on the Earth, 1. we shall call Lucifers flood brought upon the Earth because of lucifers rebellion, and 2. Noahs flood caused by the rebellion of man. Many Scriptures show there was a great difference between them, all we need do is read every one and believe what we read. The first where God destroyed His original creation because of Lucifers rebellion, and the second, Noah's flood because of mans rebellion. Lucifers flood, everything was destroyed, all life, no light, the earth made empty and void. Noah's flood, all life was not destroyed. Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives were left alive, plus all animals and the sun and moon was not prevented from giving light. Here are all the Scriptures proving this occurred, read them for yourself then believe them or not?? Noahs flood which I will post as . 'N.F.' Lucifers flood, L.F. L.F. Earth made waste (Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Earth not made waste (Gen. 8:11-12, 22 ; Heb. 11:7 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. Earth made empty (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23). N.F. Earth not made empty (Gen. 6:18-22 ; 8:16). L.F. Earth made totally dark (Gen. 1:2-5 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Not made totally dark (Gen. 8:6-22) L.F. No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Light from heaven (Gen. 8:6-22). L.F. No day and night (Gen. 1:2-5). N.F. Day and night (Gen. 8:1-22). L.F. All vegetation destroyed Gen. 1:2 ; 2:5-6 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Vegetation not destroyed (Gen. 8:11, 21 ; 9:3, 20). L.F. No continued abating of the waters off the earth (Gen. 1:6-12). N.F. Continued abating of the waters from the earth by evaporation (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. Waters taken off the earth in one day (Gen. 1:10). N.F. Months of waters abating off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. God supernaturally takes waters off the earth (Gen. 1:6-12). N.F. Natural work of evaporation of the waters off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. No rebuke or miraculous work in fled away (Gen. 1:6-12 ; Ps. 104:7). N.F. No rebuke or miraculous work is taking waters off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. The waters on earth in Gen. 1:2, hasted away when rebuked (Gen. 1:6-2 ; Ps. 104:9). N.F. The bounds already eternally set for waters in Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. All fish were totally destroyed in flood of Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. No fish were destroyed of created again after Noah's flood (Gen. 1:20-23 ; 6:18-22). L.F. No Fowls left on the earth after (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Fowls were left after Noah's flood (Gen. 6:20 ; 8:7-17). L.F. No animals left after (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Some of all animals kept alive (Gen. 6:20 ; 8:17 ; 9:2-4, 10-16). L.F. No man left on earth in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Eight men and women left after Noah's flood (Gen. 6:18 ; 8:15-22 ; 9:1-16 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. No social system left at all in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. A social system left after Noah's flood (Gen. 8:15-22 ; 9:1-16 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. No ark made to save men in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. An ark made to save men and animals alive (Gen. 6:8-8 : 22 ; 9:1-16 ; Heb. 11:7). L.F. Cause: fall of Lucifer, now Satan (Isa. 14:12-14; Jer. 4:23-26; Ezek. 28:11-17 ; Luke 10:18). N.F. Cause: wickedness of men (Gen. 6:5-13) ; and fallen angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Jude 6-7 ; 2 Pet. 2:4). L.F. Result: became necessary to make new life on earth (Gen. 1:3-2 : 25 ; Isa. 45:18 ; Eph. 3:11). N.F. Results: no new creation made, for all men and animals were not destroyed (Gen. 6:18-8 : 22 ; 9:1-16).
  2. HAZARD

    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    In other words, you cannot explain or answer even one of these simple questions, such as, Why would the world covered in water, in Gen. 1:2, be an act of creation when all other floods are acts of judgment? I do not believe in evolution at all, not for a moment. Can you explain these scriptures proving two great floods? There were two great floods on the Earth, 1. we shall call Lucifers flood brought upon the Earth because of lucifers rebellion, and 2. Noahs flood caused by the rebellion of man. Many Scriptures show there was a great difference between them, all we need do is read every one and believe what we read. The first where God destroyed His original creation because of Lucifers rebellion, and the second, Noah's flood because of mans rebellion. Lucifers flood, everything was destroyed, all life, no light, the earth made empty and void. Noah's flood, all life was not destroyed. Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives were left alive, plus all animals and the sun and moon was not prevented from giving light. Here are all the Scriptures proving this occurred, read them for yourself then believe them or not?? Noahs flood which I will post as . 'N.F.' Lucifers flood, L.F. L.F. Earth made waste (Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Earth not made waste (Gen. 8:11-12, 22 ; Heb. 11:7 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. Earth made empty (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23). N.F. Earth not made empty (Gen. 6:18-22 ; 8:16). L.F. Earth made totally dark (Gen. 1:2-5 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Not made totally dark (Gen. 8:6-22) L.F. No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Light from heaven (Gen. 8:6-22). L.F. No day and night (Gen. 1:2-5). N.F. Day and night (Gen. 8:1-22). L.F. All vegetation destroyed Gen. 1:2 ; 2:5-6 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Vegetation not destroyed (Gen. 8:11, 21 ; 9:3, 20). L.F. No continued abating of the waters off the earth (Gen. 1:6-12). N.F. Continued abating of the waters from the earth by evaporation (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. Waters taken off the earth in one day (Gen. 1:10). N.F. Months of waters abating off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. God supernaturally takes waters off the earth (Gen. 1:6-12). N.F. Natural work of evaporation of the waters off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. No rebuke or miraculous work in fled away (Gen. 1:6-12 ; Ps. 104:7). N.F. No rebuke or miraculous work is taking waters off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. The waters on earth in Gen. 1:2, hasted away when rebuked (Gen. 1:6-2 ; Ps. 104:9). N.F. The bounds already eternally set for waters in Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. All fish were totally destroyed in flood of Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. No fish were destroyed of created again after Noah's flood (Gen. 1:20-23 ; 6:18-22). L.F. No Fowls left on the earth after (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Fowls were left after Noah's flood (Gen. 6:20 ; 8:7-17). L.F. No animals left after (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Some of all animals kept alive (Gen. 6:20 ; 8:17 ; 9:2-4, 10-16). L.F. No man left on earth in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Eight men and women left after Noah's flood (Gen. 6:18 ; 8:15-22 ; 9:1-16 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. No social system left at all in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. A social system left after Noah's flood (Gen. 8:15-22 ; 9:1-16 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. No ark made to save men in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. An ark made to save men and animals alive (Gen. 6:8-8 : 22 ; 9:1-16 ; Heb. 11:7). L.F. Cause: fall of Lucifer, now Satan (Isa. 14:12-14; Jer. 4:23-26; Ezek. 28:11-17 ; Luke 10:18). N.F. Cause: wickedness of men (Gen. 6:5-13) ; and fallen angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Jude 6-7 ; 2 Pet. 2:4). L.F. Result: became necessary to make new life on earth (Gen. 1:3-2 : 25 ; Isa. 45:18 ; Eph. 3:11). N.F. Results: no new creation made, for all men and animals were not destroyed (Gen. 6:18-8 : 22 ; 9:1-16). The original creations of God include the heavens and the Earth and all things therein as first brought into being. This period is summed up in Gen. 1:1. thus: "In the beginning God created the heaven [Hebrew, heavens] and the earth." This refers to the dateless past, and takes in only a part of the creative ages, that is, from the beginning of creation until the chaotic period of Gen. 1:2 when the Earth and its first inhabitants were destroyed by the first flood. Notice during Noahs flood not all inhabitants , vegetation, animals, day, night were destroyed. There are many other passages in Scripture that refer to that period (Job. 38; Ps. 8:3-8; 19:1-6; Prov. 8:22-31; John 1:3,10; Acts 17:24-26; Col. 1:15-18; Heb. 1:1-12; 11:3; Rev. 4:11). In Scripture, all instances of obscuring the sun and bringing darkness are the result of judgment, not creation-which is also true of the two universal floods (Genesis 6:8-8:22; Exodus 10:21-23; Isaiah 5:30; Jeremiah 4:23-26). All predictions of future darkness depict judgment (Matthew 8:12; Matthew 24:29-31; Rev. 6:12-17; Rev. 8:12; Rev. 9:2; Rev. 16:10; Isaiah 13:10; Joel 2:30-3:16; Amos 5:18-20). Could we say that Genesis 1:2 is the only place in Scripture where darkness and a universal flood are not an act of judgment? If it isn't an option, then Genesis 1:2 proves that there was a pre-Adamite world destroyed by darkness and flood. No one questions that Noah's flood was an act of judgment, or doubts the existence of free moral agents before the flood actually came. Why then doubt the existence of a pre-Adamite world which was destroyed by the darkness and flood of Genesis 1:2?
  3. HAZARD

    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    Can you answer these questions? How could the stars and sons of God shout and sing for joy when God laid the foundation of the Earth as in Job 38:4-7, if the Earth was created in the third day and the sun, moon, and stars in the fourth day of Gen. 1:9-19? How could God create the heavens and the Earth imperfect, as in Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26, and still produce perfection in all His Works? Where did the rebellion of Satan, angels, and his kingdom occure if nothing was created until the six days? Why would the world covered in water, in Gen. 1:2, be an act of creation when all other floods are acts of judgment? Why is Hell prepared for the devil and his angels (Matt. 25:41) and why is it located in the Earth (matt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7) if these rebels did not sin while on Earth before Adam? Why would Hell be prepared for them if they did not sin first before man? If man sinned before angels, why was not Hell prepared for man instead of angels? If angels sinned first, then their sin had to be before Adam, so where did they sin if not on the Earth before Adam? When were the vast heavens and all the billions of suns, moons, and galaxies and planets created if not before the six days? Why was not the creation of all these things mentioned in the six days, or the details of how they were created, as is the case with the Earth and its creatures, if they were created in six days? Why was not the creation of angels and other spirit beings mentioned in the work of six days if they were created at that time? Where did demons come from if they are not the spirits of the pre-Adamite races? Did God create them as demons, or were they created perfect and holy as were all other things that are recorded. If they were created holy, then they sinned on the Earth, or they would not be confined in prisons under the Earth. So when did they sin on the Earth if not before Adam? If they were a part of Adam's creation, whey were they not mentioned at least one time since all other creatures of less importance are mentioned that were a part of the work of six days? When did the spirits of Rev. 9 commit sin on the Earth if not before Adam? Why are they now confined in the Earth if they did not sin on Earth? If all angels and spirits were created at the time of Adam why did not God mention it and why did not He give them dominion over man since it is stated that men were created lower than angels? (Ps. 8: Heb. 2). Is it God's plan for lower to rule higher creations? Who was it that was sinful enough to cause man to sin if there were no pre-Adamite sinners to be sinful when Adam was created? If there were not two social systems on Earth at different times, and if the only one that ever existed was created in the six days, then why is there such a vast difference between Gods infinite mercy, dealings, and means of reconciliation with man and with all other fallen creatures, since they are all of the same social system? Why is there such jealousy and malice between man and spirit beings who are fallen if the all belong to the same creation and the same social system? When was there war in heaven, and when was Lucifer cast out if not before Adam, as stated in Isa. 14:12-14; Ezek. 28:11-17; Luke 10:18? Not one of these questions can be answered intelligently and scripturally unless we accept the fact that there was a pre-Adamite social system which was totally destroyed by the flood of Gen. 1:2. One might attempt to give some kind of an answer to these questions but any explanation of any Bible question that cannot be answered with at least two or three plain Scriptures on the subject is the wrong answer. Any answer that is out of harmony with Scripture on the subject is wrong and must be rejected.
  4. HAZARD

    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    Hi Marv. ?Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" (Ezek. 28:13-15). Ezekiel 28:11-18). The earthly king of Tyre was Ithobalus 11, The supernatural king of Tyre was Lucifer, who is mostly referred to in this prophecy (V. 11-19), as proved by the many statements that could not possibly apply to any earthly man. No earthly king of Tyre was ever in Eden, as was does this angel, nor does this Eden refer to Adam's Eden although Lucifer was in it also (Gen. 3; 2 Cor. 11:3). The Eden here was a garden in the earth when he ruled in perfection and sinlessness before he fell (V. 13). Ezek. 28:14-16, Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. V. 15, Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. V. 16, By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. No angel was in any holy mountain of God when an earthly king of Tyre ruled, so the reference is to the eternal past when the cherub himself had a literal throne on earth on the holy mountain of God. Here we have an insight into the position of Lucifer before his fall, and a revelation regarding the cause of his fall (V. 13-17). The term mountain of God occurs seven times (V. 14, 16; Ex. 3:1; 4:27; 18:5; 24:13; 1 Kings 19:8). The mountain of the Lord occurs six times(Gen. 22:14; Num. 10:33; Isa. 2:3; 30:29: Mic. 4:2; Zech. 8:3). All these Scriptures do not refer to the same mountain in the same place, as can be seen from the various passages. The time of his iniquity was when he rebelled against God to exalt his throne and kingdom from earth to heaven (Isa. 14:12-14). The time of his corruption and sin was surely before the days of Adam for Lucifer was already a fallen creature at the time he came into Adams Eden (Gen. 2; 2 Cor. 11:3).
  5. HAZARD

    Shroud of Turin is fake

    science New forensic tests suggest Shroud of Turin is fake A HIGH-tech forensic study of the blood flows on the Shroud of Turin, which some believe is Jesus’ burial cloth, reveals the religious relic is most likely a medieval forgery. Reuters News Corp Australia NetworkJuly 19, 20186:59am New tests reveal the Shroud of Turin is likely a fake. Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied A NEW hi-tech forensic study of the blood flows on the Shroud of Turin, the mysterious linen some Christians believe is Jesus’ burial cloth, is the latest analysis to suggest that it is most likely a medieval fake. The results of the investigation, in which scientists used a volunteer and a mannequin and employed sophisticated techniques such as Bloodstain Pattern Analysis (BPA), were published in the latest edition of the Journal of Forensic Sciences. The Roman Catholic Church has not taken an official position on the authenticity of the cloth, which bears an image, reversed like a photographic negative, of a man with the wounds of a crucifixion. The Shroud of Turin, a 14 foot-long cloth revered by some as the burial cloth of Jesus, is now thought to be a fake after forensic testing. Picture: SuppliedSource:AP It shows the back and front of a bearded man, his arms crossed on his chest. It is marked by what appear to be rivulets of blood from wounds in the wrists, feet and side. Sceptics say the cloth, which measures 4.4 by 1.1 metres, is a masterful medieval forgery. Carbon dating tests in 1988 put it between 1260 and 1390, but some have challenged their accuracy. The latest study was restricted to blood flows that would have resulted from some wounds — those of the left hand, the forearms, a wound in the side that the Bible says was caused by a lance, and blood stains near the waist. A tiny tube was inserted into the wrist of the volunteer to simulate dripping from a wound where a crucifixion nail would have been inserted. A mannequin was used for the side “lance” wound. New forensic testing suggests that the Shroud of Turin was man-made during the 14th century. Picture; AP Photo/Antonio CalanniSource:AP Using instruments such a ballistic angle finder, the study showed that the direction and behaviour of the rivulets of blood did not match those evidenced in high-resolution photographs of the shroud. The cloth is housed in a special case in the Turin Cathedral and goes on display only on rare occasions. “When the volunteer was in (various reclining positions) the blood movement never matched the Shroud,” said the study. “Assuming that the red stains on the Turin linen are actually blood from the crucifixion wounds, the results of the experiments demonstrate that the alleged flowing patterns from different areas of the body are not consistent with each other,” it said. The accuracy of the 1988 carbon dating tests, carried out on small samples of the cloth by universities in the United States, Britain and Switzerland, was challenged by some hard-core believers who said restorations in past centuries had contaminated the results. Pilgrims look at a Shroud reproduction and a Christ statue in the San Lorenzo church in central Turin on May 1, 2010. Picture: AFP Photo / Vincenzo PintoSource:AFP The history of the Shroud is long and controversial. After first surfacing in the Middle East and France, it was brought by Italy’s former royal family, the Savoys, to their seat in Turin in 1578. In 1983 ex-King Umberto II bequeathed it to the late Pope John Paul. The Shroud narrowly escaped destruction in 1997 when a fire ravaged the Guarini Chapel of the Turin cathedral where it is held. A fireman risked his life to save it. Link for pictures. https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/new-forensic-tests-suggest-shroud-of-turin-is-fake/news-story/6cbb45f095821e10d75dcca64fa4678e
  6. HAZARD

    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    . Sorry, I'm not twisting anything. Read this and check every scripture with an open and honest heart and you will see it. There were two great floods on the Earth, 1. we shall call Lucifers flood brought upon the Earth because of lucifers rebellion, and 2. Noahs flood caused by the rebellion of man. Many Scriptures show there was a great difference between them, all we need do is read every one and believe what we read. The first where God destroyed His original creation because of Lucifers rebellion, and the second, Noah's flood because of mans rebellion. Lucifers flood, everything was destroyed, all life, no light, the earth made empty and void. Noah's flood, all life was not destroyed. Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives were left alive, plus all animals and the sun and moon was not prevented from giving light. Here are all the Scriptures proving this occurred, read them for yourself then believe them or not?? Noahs flood which I will post as . 'N.F.' Lucifers flood, L.F. L.F. Earth made waste (Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Earth not made waste (Gen. 8:11-12, 22 ; Heb. 11:7 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. Earth made empty (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23). N.F. Earth not made empty (Gen. 6:18-22 ; 8:16). L.F. Earth made totally dark (Gen. 1:2-5 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Not made totally dark (Gen. 8:6-22) L.F. No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Light from heaven (Gen. 8:6-22). L.F. No day and night (Gen. 1:2-5). N.F. Day and night (Gen. 8:1-22). L.F. All vegetation destroyed Gen. 1:2 ; 2:5-6 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Vegetation not destroyed (Gen. 8:11, 21 ; 9:3, 20). L.F. No continued abating of the waters off the earth (Gen. 1:6-12). N.F. Continued abating of the waters from the earth by evaporation (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. Waters taken off the earth in one day (Gen. 1:10). N.F. Months of waters abating off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. God supernaturally takes waters off the earth (Gen. 1:6-12). N.F. Natural work of evaporation of the waters off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. No rebuke or miraculous work in fled away (Gen. 1:6-12 ; Ps. 104:7). N.F. No rebuke or miraculous work is taking waters off the earth (Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. The waters on earth in Gen. 1:2, hasted away when rebuked (Gen. 1:6-2 ; Ps. 104:9). N.F. The bounds already eternally set for waters in Gen. 8:1-14). L.F. All fish were totally destroyed in flood of Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. No fish were destroyed of created again after Noah's flood (Gen. 1:20-23 ; 6:18-22). L.F. No Fowls left on the earth after (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26). N.F. Fowls were left after Noah's flood (Gen. 6:20 ; 8:7-17). L.F. No animals left after (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Some of all animals kept alive (Gen. 6:20 ; 8:17 ; 9:2-4, 10-16). L.F. No man left on earth in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. Eight men and women left after Noah's flood (Gen. 6:18 ; 8:15-22 ; 9:1-16 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. No social system left at all in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. A social system left after Noah's flood (Gen. 8:15-22 ; 9:1-16 ; 1 Pet. 3:20). L.F. No ark made to save men in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). N.F. An ark made to save men and animals alive (Gen. 6:8-8 : 22 ; 9:1-16 ; Heb. 11:7). L.F. Cause: fall of Lucifer, now Satan (Isa. 14:12-14; Jer. 4:23-26; Ezek. 28:11-17 ; Luke 10:18). N.F. Cause: wickedness of men (Gen. 6:5-13) ; and fallen angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Jude 6-7 ; 2 Pet. 2:4). L.F. Result: became necessary to make new life on earth (Gen. 1:3-2 : 25 ; Isa. 45:18 ; Eph. 3:11). N.F. Results: no new creation made, for all men and animals were not destroyed (Gen. 6:18-8 : 22 ; 9:1-16). The original creations of God include the heavens and the Earth and all things therein as first brought into being. This period is summed up in Gen. 1:1. thus: "In the beginning God created the heaven [Hebrew, heavens] and the earth." This refers to the dateless past, and takes in only a part of the creative ages, that is, from the beginning of creation until the chaotic period of Gen. 1:2 when the Earth and its first inhabitants were destroyed by the first flood. Notice during Noahs flood not all inhabitants , vegetation, animals, day, night were destroyed. There are many other passages in Scripture that refer to that period (Job. 38; Ps. 8:3-8; 19:1-6; Prov. 8:22-31; John 1:3,10; Acts 17:24-26; Col. 1:15-18; Heb. 1:1-12; 11:3; Rev. 4:11). In Scripture, all instances of obscuring the sun and bringing darkness are the result of judgment, not creation-which is also true of the two universal floods (Genesis 6:8-8:22; Exodus 10:21-23; Isaiah 5:30; Jeremiah 4:23-26). All predictions of future darkness depict judgment (Matthew 8:12; Matthew 24:29-31; Rev. 6:12-17; Rev. 8:12; Rev. 9:2; Rev. 16:10; Isaiah 13:10; Joel 2:30-3:16; Amos 5:18-20). Could we say that Genesis 1:2 is the only place in Scripture where darkness and a universal flood are not an act of judgment? If it isn't an option, then Genesis 1:2 proves that there was a pre-Adamite world destroyed by darkness and flood. No one questions that Noah's flood was an act of judgment, or doubts the existence of free moral agents before the flood actually came. Why then doubt the existence of a pre-Adamite world which was destroyed by the darkness and flood of Genesis 1:2?
  7. HAZARD

    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    Sure. Scriptures show that originally, Long before Adam and Eve were created, God created the Earth and placed Lucifer as ruler of the society there. God gave Lucifer control of the Earth kingdom (Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Lucifer obeyed God and ruled for an unknown time before "Iniquity was found in him. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" (Ezek. 28:13-15). Before Adam Lucifer was the ruler of the Earth. God is taking about Lucifer in these Scriptures. He was a perfect created angelic arc angel; "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" (Ezek. 28:13-15). Lucifer wanted to control the universe and knock God off His throne. He over a long period of time convinced one third of God's angels to rebell with him and they rebelled against God and His universal rule, and invaded heaven to try and de-throne God Himself. (Ezek 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Naturally Lucifer was defeated, and his kingdom on the earth was totally destroyed by a flood and by the fierce anger of God (Gen. 1;2; Jer. 4:23-26; Ps. 104:5-9; 2 Pet. 3:5-6), hence the severe geological contortions of the earth's crust, vast deposits of bones in various places world wide, fossiles thousands or millions of years old etc. The earth was turned upside down in this process, ever wondered why the moon is poc marked by countless craters, and yet we never see anything plowing into it these days causing such destruction. What about the other dead planets in our immediate solar system? The flood God caused to cover the earth remained for an unknown period of time, and then God, in six days restored the earth to a habitable state and made Adam and his creation to carry out the original plan of God concerning the Earth (Gen. 1:3-2:25). Lucifer and his spirit rebels caused man to fall and by this regained dominion of the earth through Adams submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). Lucifer has been in control ever since and he will remain in control untill the second coming of Jesus Christ who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium. God will then finally make a New heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5). This doctrin is simple for most men to understand, so they reject it. Especially the churches for some reason. I have never heard a priest or pastor talk about these things until I found a book called, “God’s Plan For Man, by Finis Jennings Dake.” 2 Peter 3:5-7 expresses this clearly in plain human language, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing (emerging) out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world THAT THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, PERISHED: But the heavens and the Earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." This is where people become confused and say the world "that then was," was the world before Noah's flood, but this cannot be because: If the world that THAT THEN WAS" is that between Adam and the flood of Noah, then God created The heavens and the Earth WHICH ARE NOW" since the flood of Noah. Noah and his family lived prior to his flood and after it. The world "THAT THEN WAS PERISHED" and everything in it also perished. What change could Noah's flood make to the heavens? None, for floods on Earth can never cover the heavens. The earth, vegetation, the heavens, all remained the same after Noah's flood. Peter, in (2 Peter 3:3-7) taught that scoffers were totally ignorant of the flood that destroyed the social system and the earth "that then was" (lucifers flood). These scoffers all knew of Noah's flood and still know today. This proves that the truth of the flood that destroyed the original creation was hidden from them, while they knew about Noah's flood. What was it that the scoffers were ignorant of unless it was the destruction of the social system before Adam? This is the doctrin of which men are still ignorant of, which they call "the gap theory." Peter said that the scoffers were willingly ignorant of this truth showing that it is a clear doctrin of Scripture if men would stop being ignorant of it. There are many Scriptures that make this doctrin clear; so "If any man wants to be ignorant, let him be ignorant," as Paul expressed in (1 Cor. 14:38). Peter said these scoffers of the last days, the days we are in now, since Noah, would be ignorant of the fact that the heavens were of old; that the social system ruled by Lucifer on the old Earth perished by water; that the heavens and the Earth since the six days of restoration are kept in store to be purified again- the next time by fire; that the Lord is not slack concerning His promises of final restoration of the earth to its third perfect state; and that God was longsuffering to all men, not willing that any should perish, but all come to repentance. In Isa. 14:12-14 we have statements which cannot possibly of an earthly King. The passage is universally refering to the fall of Satan. We can quote it and note the facts. "How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which dist weaken the nations! For thou art hast said in thine heart, I WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN, I WILL EXALT MY THRONE above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL BE like the most High," Now note the following facts this passage proves of Satan: 1. That his name is Lucifer. 2. That he was a son of the morning, and therefore, no earthly man. 3. That he fell from Heaven. This could never be spoken of a man. Satan is the only person in all Scripture who is spoken of as falling from Heaven (Luke 10:18). 4. That he was cut down to the ground in his fall. 5. That he weakened the nations on Earth. 6. That he was exalted in his heart. 7. That he invaded hHeaven where God rules. 8. That he was a KING, for he had a Throne and SUBJECTS over whom he ruled. 9. That he wanted to exalt his kingdom above the clouds, stars, and into Heaven itself to dethrone God. 10. That he wanted to be worshiped in the congregation of God (Ps. 72:2; 82:1; Isa. 6:1). 11. That he led a rebellion against God but was defeated. 12. That his kingdom was on Earth, or he never could have tried to ascend above the clouds, stars, and into Heaven. When a kingdom is located under the clouds it has to be on the Earth. 13. That the ground, clouds, stars, and Heaven were already created. 14. That it had to be before Adam, for this was not the position of Lucifer when he was in Adam's Eden. Adam had dominion at that time. Lucifer had no kingdom on the Earth at the time of Adam and he has not had one since in the sense of a visible personal rule on Earth. He has only ruled through others since Adam's day; so this must refer to a time before Adam. 15. That he was not in Heaven when he rebelled, else he could not have desired to ascend into Heaven. He was under the stars, or he could not have desired to be exalted above the stars. He was under the clouds, or he could not have desired to ascend above them. 16. That God's throne is located in the north part of the universe (Psalms 75:6-7). Thus, this passage proves the location of Satan's original kingdom and the time of his fall. It was located on Earth, and his fall was before Adam, for he was all ready a fallen creature when he entered Adam' Eden. In Coll. 1:15-18 we read of Christ creating thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers in Heaven and on Earth. They were located somewhere in the heavens and on the Earth. Lucifer was given a kingdom here on Earth, as proved by the passages cited above. His own subjects were earthly creatures of various kinds which were destroyed when the flood of Gen. 1:2 came upon the Earth. God created the Earth to be inhabited by earthly creatures (Isa. 45:18). They are called "nations" in the above passages. The demons who are now Satans emissaries could well be the spirits of the pre-Adamites. At any rate they are not part of the creation at the time of Adam. Thus Isaiah teaches the the Earth was inhabited before Adam and was ruled by Lucifer, whos' kingdom was overthrown when he rebelled. There is so, so much more found in Scripture regarding this doctrin, many dozens of Scriptures support this. If this is false teaching, it amuses me that no one comes up with nothing more than Noah's flood, which occured much later, did not compleatly destroy the Earth, shake mountains, turn them upside down, turned off the stars and the sun so that there was no light. God had already created the Heavens, they were in existence as well as the Earth only their lights were withheld from shining on the Earth thus causing darkness Gen. 1:2. There was no darkness during Noah's flood? There were men and animals on the earth before Noah's flood, and Noah and his family and the animals survived the flood and were on the Eart after it? That the Earth ONLY was (became) without form and void (Hebrew tohu vabobu, litterally wast and ruin or desolate and empty), as in Gen. 1:2. That there were mountains of Earth that were shaken and turned upside down by an earthquake so severe, which no doubt caused the remains of animals to be deposited in the very depths of the Earth beneath many layers of solid rock, such as are now been found. Noah's flood never buried animals hundreds of meters beneath solid rock. Many other scriptures apart from those above can be presented to prove the doctrin of a pre-Adamite world. To try and put this in a nutshell, God created the heavens first, then the Earth, all in the beginning or in the dateless past (Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7). He caused the heavens and the Earth to be inhabited and gave Lucifer control of the Earth-kingdom, don't believe me, read, (Coll. 1:15-18; Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Lucifer ruled the earth for God for an unknown period before he rebelled and invaded heaven to try and dethrone God. Not my idea, read (Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). He was defeated and his kingdom on Earth was destroyed by a flood and the fierce anger of God (Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26; Ps. 104:5-9; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). The Earth was turned upside down, a process which caused all the present formations of the Earth. The flood remained on the Earth for an unknown period of time, and then God in six days restored the Earth to a habitable state and made Adam and Eve and his creation to carry out the original plan of God concerning the Earth (Gen. 1:3-2:25). Lucifer, now called Satan, and the spirit rebels caused man to fall, and they regained dominion of the earth through Adam's submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). They have been in control ever since and will be in control untill the second coming of Christ, who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium and make a New Heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth all righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5). Why does science show the earth to be many millions of years old and the Bible "(allegedly)" says it is only six thousand years old? So, as with everything missunderstood in Scripture men call what they do not understand a theory. Hence, the gap theory, or even a herecy. But there was a gap and its no theory. Scripture shows there was a creation "in the beginning" and then a re-creation. If we take the time to carefully read all the Scriptures regarding this doctrin and not just skim over them retaining old knowledge in the mind, and the READ these below, which backs up what is said, and see for yourselves You see, God spoke, and as soon as the materials were made, God created and formed with His hands the heavens, with all its light and darkness first, then the Earth, all in the beginning, or in the dateless past (Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7). God created the heavens and the earth to be inhabited and He gave Lucifer control of the Earth kingdom (Col. 1:15-18; Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Lucifer obeyed God and ruled for an unknown time before he rebelled and invaded heaven to try and de-throne (Ezek 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Naturally Lucifer was defeated, and his kingdom on the earth was totally destroyed by a flood and by the fierce anger of God (Gen. 1;2; Jer. 4:23-26; Ps. 104:5-9; 2 Pet. 3:5-6), hence the severe geological contortions of the earth's crust, vast deposits of bones in various places world wide, fossiles thousands or millions of years old etc. The earth was turned upside down in this process, ever wondered why the moon is poc marked by countless craters, and yet we never see anything plowing into it these days causing such destruction. What about the other dead planets in our immediate solar system? The flood God caused to cover the earth remained for an unknown period of time, and then God, in six days restored the earth to a habitable state and made Adam and his creation to carry out the original plan of God conserning the Earth (Gen. 1:3-2:25). Lucifer and his spirit rebels caused man to fall and by this regained dominion of the earth through Adams submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). Lucifer has been in control ever since and he will remain in control untill the second coming of Jesus Christ who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium. God will then finally make a New heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5). This doctrin is too simple for most men to understand, so they reject it. Now, 2 Peter 3:5-7 expresses this clearly in plain human language, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing (emerging) out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world THAT THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, PERISHED: But the heavens and the Earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." This is where people become confused and say the world "that then was," was the world before Noah's flood, but this cannot be because: If the world that THAT THEN WAS" is that between Adam and the flood of Noah, then God created The heavens and the Earth WHICH ARE NOW" since the flood of Noah. Noah and his family lived prior to his flood and after it. The world "THAT THEN WAS PERISHED" and everything in it also perished. What change could Noah's flood make to the heavens? None, for floods on Earth can never cover the heavens. The earth, vegetation, the heavens, all remained the same after Noah's flood. Peter, in (2 Peter 3:3-7) taught that scoffers were totally ignorant of the flood that destroyed the social system and the earth "that then was" (lucifers flood). These scoffers all knew of Noah's flood and still know today. This proves that the truth of the flood that destroyed the original creation was hidden from them, while they knew about Noah's flood. What was it that the scoffers were ignorant of unless it was the destruction of the social system before Adam? This is the doctrin of which men are still ignorant of, which they call "the gap theory." Peter said that the scoffers were willingly ignorant of this truth showing that it is a clear doctrin of Scripture if men would stop being ignorant of it. There are many Scriptures that make this doctrin clear; so "If any man wants to be ignorant, let him be ignorant," as Paul expressed in (1 Cor. 14:38). All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Just as God told Adam and Eve to do when He restored the Earth to a habitable state and He created them, Genesis 1:28, “And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth”
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    Ask a Catholic Anything!

    Off topic, but here goes. Many disciples of Jesus went back into sin and were lost for they followed Him “NO MORE”(John 6:66). To argue that these people were not saved does not disprove the claim they were “disciples” and had eternal life up to the time they went back (Hebrews 10:26-39). If they went back, then they had something to go back from. They had something that caused them to follow Jesus in His persecutions. They were like the class in Luke 8:13 who “received the word with joy: . . . for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.” To believe in Christ for a moment brings eternal life and makes one a son of God (John 1:12; 1 John 5:1). Even these false security teachers make one act of faith all that a man must ever do to be saved eternally. So they, above all, should believe these disciples that believed for a while had eternal life at one time. Jesus said the unprofitable servant would be cast into Hell (Matt. 24:45-51; 25:14-46; Rev. 3:14, 15). Of course, if we have to believe modern teachers we cannot believe all the Bible, so we have to make our own choice of whom to believe. King Saul, who was once in God's favour or grace and who had the Holy Spirit, lost that favour and was destroyed because of sin (1 Chron. 10:13-14). He committed suicide and must be lost, for no murderer has eternal life (1 Sam.28:7-25; 31:1-6; 1 John 3:15; Gal. 5:19-21). To argue that he was never a saved man is to demonstrate ignorance of Bible truth. "God gave him another heart . . . and the Spirit of God came upon him and he prophesied (1 Sam. 9-13). If this was not an experience of a saved man then it was nothing. It is also recorded how the Spirit of God left him when he sinned (1 Sam. 12-13). He went into spiritualism and God said He would cut off the man who did this (Lev. 19:31; 20:6; Deut. 18:11). He was a humble and Godly man to begin with, but he did not end up this way (1 Sam. 10:21-24). Even Judas was once a saved man. Judas, the apostle, Judas is an outstanding example of a man once saved who was lost because of sin. In Scripture we have statements that Judas was to be a man who was a "familiar friend" of Christ who ate of His bread which is an idiom of close friendship (Ps. 41:9) v.9, "Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me." He was not an enemy of Christ, but an equal in grace, a guide, and a sweet acquaintance (Ps. 55:12-13) v. 12, For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him: v. 13, But it was thou, a man, mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance. He was to have his habitation desolate and be blotted out of the book of the living(Ps. 69:25-28 with Acts 1:20), and he was to have "another take his place" in the Christian ministry and in the kingship over one of the tribes of Israel (Ps. 109:8). These passages were fulfilled in Judas according to Matt.26:24; John 13:18; Acts 1:16-25. In Matt 10 we have the facts recorded that Judas as one of the "twelve disciples" received power over demons, sickness and disease and a call to preach the gospel. Of these twelve (Judas included) it is said that Christ gave them power and sent them forth, and commanded them to preach, and to heal the sick. Christ said to Judas and all the twelve, "freely ye have received, freely give. . . . I send you forth as sheep . . . it shall not be ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you" (Matt. 10:1-20. These statements prove that Judas was once a chosen and genuine apostle. In Mark 6:7-13 we read that the twelve (Judas included) went "forth two by two . . . and preached that men should repent. And they (Judas included) cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick and healed them. The Holy Spirit through Luke records that Judas "by transgression fell" (Acts 1:15-25) and we should believe what the Holy Spirit tells us in Luke. It was not until the last supper that the devil entered into Judas, that is became united with him in the same crime. It was two days before the Passover that he put it in the heart of Judas to go to the enemies of Jesus to betray Him into their hands (Matt. 26:1-5, 14-16; John 13:2).It was at this time he openly broke with Christ and sought opportunity to betray Him. Judas was sorry afterwards for his betrayed (Matt. 27:3-5). He could have repented and been forgiven as any of the others who cursed, denied Christ, and fled like cowards in the test. But being of a disposition to do so, he brooded over his fall and yielded to temptation to commit suicide. It was because he committed suicide rather than truly repent that he was lost. He committed suicide and must be lost, for no murderer has eternal life (1 Sam.28:7-25; 31:1-6; 1 John 3:15; Gal. 5:19-21). Judas was a saved man because his name was written in God's book of life. he was called a devil, just a Peter was called Satan by Jesus; Matthew 16:23, But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Peter also denied Christ three times before men; Matthew 26:34, Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. Matthew 26:75, And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly. Jesus also said this; Matthew 10:33, But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Luckily Peter wept in tears and repented. Judas had his name written in God's book of life just as Peter did, but sadly instead of repenting of his sin, he brooded over it and took his own life. He like Satan by transgression fell. Act 1:25, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. Because he never repented, but took his own life his name was removed from God's book and his place was taken by another, "Matthias." Acts 1: 20-23, For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. 21, Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, 22, Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. 23, And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. Judas, instead of repenting, overcoming, brooded over his sin and committed suicide and his bishoprick was taken by another; Revelation 3:5, He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Judas, the apostle Judas is an outstanding example of a man once saved who was lost because of sin. I Scripture we have statements that Judas was to be a man who was a "familiar friend" of Christ who ate of His bread which is an idiom of close friendship (Ps. 41:9). He was not an enemy of Christ, but an equal in grace, a guide, and a sweet acquaintance (Ps. 55:12-13). He was to have his habitation desolate and be blotted out of the book of the living(Ps. 69:25-28 with Acts 1:20), and he was to have "another take his place" in the Christian ministry and in the kingship over one of the tribes of Israel (Ps. 109:8). These passages were fulfilled in Judas according to Matt.26:24; John 13:18; Acts 1:16-25. In Matt 10 we have the facts recorded that Judas as one of the "twelve disciples" received power over demons, sickness and disease and a call to preach the gospel. Of these twelve (Judas included) it is said that Christ gave them power and sent them forth, and commanded them to preach, and to heal the sick. Christ said to Judas and all the twelve, "freely ye have received, freely give. . . . I send you forth as sheep . . . it shall not be ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you" (Matt. 10:1-20. These statements prove that Judas was once a chosen and genuine apostle. In Mark 6:7-13 we read that the twelve (Judas included) went "forth two by two . . . and preached that men should repent. And they (Judas included) cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick and healed them. The Holy Spirit through Luke records that Judas "by transgression fell" (Acts 1:15-25) and we should believe what the Holy Spirit tells us in Luke. It was not until the last supper that the devil entered into Judas, that is became united with him in the same crime. It was two days before the Passover that he put it in the heart of Judas to go to Judas was a pilferer of money. The Holy Spirit through Luke records that Judas "by transgression fell" (Acts 1:15-25). He not only had a moral fall but sin caused it. Judas was not always a "devil" and a "thief." He became both after he had been saved for some time. His weakness was the love of money and this caused his fall (John12:6; Luke 22:5;; Matt. 26:14-16). If he had refused to be the treasurer of the first Christian disciples and had frankly told them that money was his weakness, he would have been better off. Judas had seen Christ escape the mob many times and he had no doubt that the Lord would escape again and he, Judas would be better $19.20 to the good. It was not until the end of Christs ministry that Judas began to pilfer and to grow cold in his love for Christ. It was not until the last supper that the devil entered into him; that is become united with him in the same crime. It was two days before the Passover that he put into the heart of Judas to go to the enemies of Jesus to betray Him into their hands (Matt:26:1-5; John 13:2). It was at this very time that he openly broke with Christ and sought opportunity to betray Him. He could have been forgiven as much as any of the others who cursed and denied Christ, and fled. But being of the disposition to do so, he brooded over his fall and yielded to temptation to commit suicide. Judas is a specific example of a New Testament man who was once saved and in God's favour or grace, but who lost his salvation and went to Hell because of sin (Matt. 25:24; Acts 1:16-25). Jesus Himself acknowledged to the Father that of those whom the Father had given Him Judas was the only one whom He had lost (John 17:12). Christ could not have lost Judas if He never had him to lose. Jesus further testified that to very one (including Judas) that the Father had given Him, He had given eternal life (John 17:2). Judas had this eternal life as much as the others, but he became "lost" alter and "by transgression fell" (Acts 1:25).
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    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    . A great red DRAGON. Dragon, used 13 times in Revelation as a symbol of Satan, (12:2-17; 13: 2-4, 11; Job 41). having seven heads , Symbols of the 7 world empires that precede the kingdom of the Antichrist. ten horns, His ten horns are not crowned, while those of the beast are (Rev. 13:1), symbolizing his power over the 10 kingdoms will be given to the beast. His 7 heads are crowned (V 3), symbolizing his rule over the 7 kingdoms preceding the Antichrist kingdom. The 7 heads on the beast are not crowned (13:1), meaning that the Antichrist has not ruled the 7 kingdoms preceding his, the 8th kingdom (17:8-11). And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, Symbolic of the third of God's angels that rebelled with Lucifer and showing how many will be with him in the future war in heaven under the 7th trumpet (V 4, 7-12).
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    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    It may or may not be soon. No one knows, not even Jesus, only the Father knows. Matt. 24:36, But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my father ONLY.
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    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    There are three Heavens mentioned in Scripture. Beside Heaven where God dwells (Gen.21:17; 22:11, 15; 2 Cor.12:1-3; Deut. 26:15; 1 Kings 8:30, 43,49) there are two other spheres called Heaven. Paul speaks of three heavens (2 Cor. 12:1-3). The third heaven is called paradise where God dwells. The other two heavens are: the clouds (Gen. 1:8; 7:23; 8:2; Job 38:9, 34; Isa. 14:14; Jer. 51:16) and the starry, galaxy filled place between the Earth and God’s Heaven (Gen. 1:15-20; 22:17; Isa. 14:12-14; Ps. 8:3).
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    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    Every living thing has a body a soul and a spirit. The soul is that which feels and the spirit is that which knows. Animals have both feelings and knowledge although somewhat limited and on a much lower scale than that of man. Animals were not created in the likeness of God as men are. They are a lower type of life and they have souls and spirits in the sense of feelings, emotions, appetites, desires, passions, and a low form of knowledge, as can be seen in may Scriptures. If there are horses in Heaven as the Scriptures teach then there must be all kinds of animals there for Heaven is called a better place, and therefore it is sure to be as good as the Earth (Hebrews 11:10-16). Scriptures teach that there is a difference between the natural spirit of man and the spirit of beasts (Eccl. 3:21); that there is a difference between "breath" and "spirit" (Job 34:15; Ps. 19:7; Luke 12:19; 1 Cor. 5:5; 2 Cor. 7:1) ; and that each creature has a separate spirit which is not a part of God (Num. 16:22; 27:17; Eccl. 3:21 ; Ezek. 21:7; Dan. 2:1-3; Mal. 2:15-16; Prov. 16:2; 1 Cor. 2:10-12; 14:32; Heb. 12:9, 23; 1 Thess. 5:23). Eccl. 3:21 states this; "Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?" This suggests to me that animals which are on the Earth, not those in Heaven, that die on the Earth, their spirit remains or returns to the earth. The soul is the invisible part of all living beings that feels, the seat of our emotions, affections, passions, and desires and which gives us self consciousness and makes us a sentient being (Lev. 25:43; 1 Sam. 22;2; 30:6; 2 Sam. 13:39; 2 Kings 4:27; 23:3; Ps. 107:5, 9, 18, 26; Mark 12:33; Matt. 26:18; John 12:27; Heb. 10:38; Heb. 4:12). Plain statements in Scripture prove the immortality of the soul. Peter said that the inner man, or the spirit of man is not corruptible: "But let it be the Hidden man of the heart, in that WHICH IS NOT CORRUPTIBLE, even the ornament of a QUIET SPIRIT, which is in the sight of God of great price(1 Peter 3:4). In 1 Peter 4:6 it is again stated by Paul that all the dead live according to God in the spirit, proving that the inner man of every body continues in consciousness like God. We have to believe this or else believe that God in unconscious. If men after death continue to live according to God in their spirit, then they continue to be conscious like God. We know that the soul and spirit of Christ was alive and conscious while His body was in the grave. This is proved by the fact that He went and preached to the spirits in prison during that time. Also this is clear from the fact that Christs soul went into the lower parts and into the heart of the earth (Matt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7-11) and His body was put in the grave on the surface of the earth (Matt. 27:57-66). When we die, our bodies will be put into the earth and our spirt will go to Heaven to be with God. When Christ returns at His second advent with His angels and saints, (US), and puts down all rebellion we will be reunited with our bodies, only glorified and we will rule with Christ as kings and priests.
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    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    Scriptures show that originally, Long before Adam and Eve were created, God created the Earth and placed Lucifer as ruler of the society there. God gave Lucifer control of the Earth kingdom (Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Lucifer obeyed God and ruled for an unknown time before "Iniquity was found in him. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" (Ezek. 28:13-15). Before Adam, Lucifer was the ruler of the Earth. God is taking about Lucifer in these Scriptures. He was a perfect created angelic arc angel; "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" (Ezek. 28:13-15). Lucifer wanted to control the universe and knock God off His throne. He over a long period of time convinced one third of God's angels to rebel with him and they rebelled against God and His universal rule, and invaded heaven to try and de-throne God Himself. (Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Naturally Lucifer was defeated, and his kingdom on the earth was totally destroyed by a flood and by the fierce anger of God (Gen. 1;2; Jer. 4:23-26; Ps. 104:5-9; 2 Pet. 3:5-6), hence the severe geological contortions of the earth's crust, vast deposits of bones in various places world wide, fossils thousands or millions of years old etc. The earth was turned upside down in this process, ever wondered why the moon is poc marked by countless craters, and yet we never see anything plowing into it these days causing such destruction. What about the other dead planets in our immediate solar system? The flood God caused to cover the earth remained for an unknown period of time, and then God, in six days restored the earth to a habitable state and made Adam and his creation to carry out the original plan of God concerning the Earth (Gen. 1:3-2:25). Lucifer and his spirit rebels caused man to fall and by this regained dominion of the earth through Adams submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). . Lucifer has been in control ever since and he will remain in control until the second coming of Jesus Christ who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium. God will then finally make a New heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5). This doctrine. is simple for most men to understand, so they reject it. 2 Peter 3:5-7 expresses this clearly in plain human language, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing (emerging) out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world THAT THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, PERISHED: But the heavens and the Earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." This is where people become confused and say the world "that then was," was the world before Noah's flood, but this cannot be because: If the world that THAT THEN WAS" is that between Adam and the flood of Noah, then God created The heavens and the Earth WHICH ARE NOW" since the flood of Noah. Noah and his family lived prior to his flood and after it. The world "THAT THEN WAS PERISHED" and everything in it also perished. What change could Noah's flood make to the heavens? None, for floods on Earth can never cover the heavens. The earth, vegetation, the heavens, all remained the same after Noah's flood. Peter, in (2 Peter 3:3-7) taught that scoffers were totally ignorant of the flood that destroyed the social system and the earth "that then was" (lucifers flood). These scoffers all knew of Noah's flood and still know today. This proves that the truth of the flood that destroyed the original creation was hidden from them, while they knew about Noah's flood. What was it that the scoffers were ignorant of unless it was the destruction of the social system before Adam? This is the doctrine of which men are still ignorant of, which they call "the gap theory." Peter said that the scoffers were willingly ignorant of this truth showing that it is a clear doctrine of Scripture if men would stop being ignorant of it. There are many Scriptures that make this doctrine clear; so "If any man wants to be ignorant, let him be ignorant," as Paul expressed in (1 Cor. 14:38). Peter said these scoffers of the last days, the days we are in now, since Noah, would be ignorant of the fact that the heavens were of old; that the social system ruled by Lucifer on the old Earth perished by water; that the heavens and the Earth since the six days of restoration are kept in store to be purified again- the next time by fire; that the Lord is not slack concerning His promises of final restoration of the earth to its third perfect state; and that God was longsuffering to all men, not willing that any should perish, but all come to repentance. In Isa. 14:12-14 we have statements which cannot possibly of an earthly King. The passage is universally referring to the fall of Satan. We can quote it and note the facts. "How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which dist weaken the nations! For thou art hast said in thine heart, I WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN, I WILL EXALT MY THRONE above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL BE like the most High," Now note the following facts this passage proves of Satan: 1. That his name is Lucifer. 2. That he was a son of the morning, and therefore, no earthly man. 3. That he fell from Heaven. This could never be spoken of a man. Satan is the only person in all Scripture who is spoken of as falling from Heaven (Luke 10:18). 4. That he was cut down to the ground in his fall. 5. That he weakened the nations on Earth. 6. That he was exalted in his heart. 7. That he invaded Heaven where God rules. 8. That he was a KING, for he had a Throne and SUBJECTS over whom he ruled. 9. That he wanted to exalt his kingdom above the clouds, stars, and into Heaven itself to dethrone God. 10. That he wanted to be worshiped in the congregation of God (Ps. 72:2; 82:1; Isa. 6:1). 11. That he led a rebellion against God but was defeated. 12. That his kingdom was on Earth, or he never could have tried to ascend above the clouds, stars, and into Heaven. When a kingdom is located under the clouds it has to be on the Earth. 13. That the ground, clouds, stars, and Heaven were already created. 14. That it had to be before Adam, for this was not the position of Lucifer when he was in Adam's Eden. Adam had dominion at that time. Lucifer had no kingdom on the Earth at the time of Adam and he has not had one since in the sense of a visible personal rule on Earth. He has only ruled through others since Adam's day; so this must refer to a time before Adam. 15. That he was not in Heaven when he rebelled, else he could not have desired to ascend into Heaven. He was under the stars, or he could not have desired to be exalted above the stars. He was under the clouds, or he could not have desired to ascend above them. 16. That God's throne is located in the north part of the universe (Psalms 75:6-7). Thus, this passage proves the location of Satan's original kingdom and the time of his fall. It was located on Earth, and his fall was before Adam, for he was all ready a fallen creature when he entered Adam' Eden. In Coll. 1:15-18 we read of Christ creating thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers in Heaven and on Earth. They were located somewhere in the heavens and on the Earth. Lucifer was given a kingdom here on Earth, as proved by the passages cited above. His own subjects were earthly creatures of various kinds which were destroyed when the flood of Gen. 1:2 came upon the Earth. God created the Earth to be inhabited by earthly creatures (Isa. 45:18). They are called "nations" in the above passages. The demons who are now Satans emissaries could well be the spirits of the pre-Adamites. At any rate they are not part of the creation at the time of Adam. Thus Isaiah teaches the the Earth was inhabited before Adam and was ruled by Lucifer, who's kingdom was overthrown when he rebelled. There is so, so much more found in Scripture regarding this doctrine, many dozens of Scriptures support this. If this is false teaching, it amuses me that no one comes up with nothing more than Noah's flood, which occurred much later, did not completely destroy the Earth, shake mountains, turn them upside down, turned off the stars and the sun so that there was no light. God had already created the Heavens, they were in existence as well as the Earth only their lights were withheld from shining on the Earth thus causing darkness Gen. 1:2. There was no darkness during Noah's flood? There were men and animals on the earth before Noah's flood, and Noah and his family and the animals survived the flood and were on the Earth after it? That the Earth ONLY was (became) without form and void (Hebrew tohu vabobu, litterally wast and ruin or desolate and empty), as in Gen. 1:2. That there were mountains of Earth that were shaken and turned upside down by an earthquake so severe, which no doubt caused the remains of animals to be deposited in the very depths of the Earth beneath many layers of solid rock, such as are now been found. Noah's flood never buried animals hundreds of meters beneath solid rock. Many other scriptures apart from those above can be presented to prove the doctrine of a pre-Adamite world. To try and put this in a nutshell, God created the heavens first, then the Earth, all in the beginning or in the dateless past (Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7). He caused the heavens and the Earth to be inhabited and gave Lucifer control of the Earth-kingdom, don't believe me, read, (Coll. 1:15-18; Rev. 12:12; Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). Lucifer ruled the earth for God for an unknown period before he rebelled and invaded heaven to try and dethrone God. Not my idea, read (Ezek. 28:11-18; Isa. 14:12-14). He was defeated and his kingdom on Earth was destroyed by a flood and the fierce anger of God (Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26; Ps. 104:5-9; 2 Pet. 3:5-6). The Earth was turned upside down, a process which caused all the present formations of the Earth. The flood remained on the Earth for an unknown period of time, and then God in six days restored the Earth to a habitable state and made Adam and Eve and his creation to carry out the original plan of God concerning the Earth (Gen. 1:3-2:25). Lucifer, now called Satan, and the spirit rebels caused man to fall, and they regained dominion of the earth through Adam's submission (2 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Rom. 5:12-21). They have been in control ever since and will be in control until the second coming of Christ, who will put down all rebellion in the Millennium and make a New Heavens and a New Earth wherein dwelleth all righteousness forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-22:5). Why does science show the earth to be many millions of years old and the Bible "(allegedly)" says it is only six thousand years old? So, as with everything miss understood in Scripture men call what they do not understand a theory. Hence, the gap theory, or even a heresy But there was a gap and its no theory. Scripture shows there was a creation "in the beginning" and then a re-creation after God destroyed the earth because of Lucifers rebellion..
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    Defense of the Post Trib Rapture

    For you, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira Many Scriptures teach that Heaven is inhabited. (1 Kings 22:19; 2 Chron. 18:18; Matt.18:10; 22:30; 24:36; Rev. 12:12; 13:6). Armies and hosts of Heaven are mentioned an number of times as seen in these passages and in Dan. 4:35; Luke 2:13; Rev. 19:14. These inhabitants are listed in part as common angels, archangels, seraphim, cherubim and other spirit beings. Heavenly bodies are mentioned in 1 Cor. 15:48-49. Rejocing in Heaven is referred to by the inhabitants in Heaven (Ps. 96:11; 148:1, 4; Isa.44:23; Rev. 12:12). 8. Paul speaks of "the invisible things" in Heaven as being like the visible things on Earth; that is the things in Heaven are just like the things on Earth. (Rom. 1:20). The word "things" is used in many passages in referring to realities in Heaven. (Phil. 2:10; Col 1:16-20; Heb. 8:12; 9:23). We know from Scripture that in Heaven there are Cities (Rev.21), mansions (John 14:1-3), trees, rivers (Rev.22:1-3), fountains of water (Rev. 7:17), food (Ex.16:4; Ps.78:25: 105:40; John 6:31-51: Luke 22:16, 18, 30; Rev. 2:7, 17: 19:1-10; 22:1-3). ANIMALS are mentioned as being in Heaven in these following Scriptures; (2 Kings 2:11-12; 6:13-17; Zech. 1:8-11: 6:1-8; Rev. 19:11-14, 21: Rom. 1:20). All these things are mentioned, furniture, tongs (Isa.6:6), fire and coals (Isa. 6:6; Rev.8:5) censer and incense (Rev. 8:4-6), smoke (Rev. 8:4; 15:8), musical instruments (Rev. 5:8; 14:1-5; 15:2-4), clothes (Dan. 7:9; Rev. 1:13; 6:9-11), stones (Rev. 2:17), books (Rev. 3:5; 5:1-7; 10:1-11; 20:11-15), Also mentioned in Scripture are, vials or bowls, crowns, thunderings, lightnings, clouds, lamps, a sea of glass, singing, worship, palm trees, temples, silence, so there must also be noise at other times, trumpets, hail, mountains, keys and chains, measuring sticks, olive trees, the ark of the testament, doors, posts, girdles, pearls, diamonds and other precious stones, walls, gates, gold in abundance, streets, fruits, banquets, and many other inumerable things. If the invisible things in the heavenlies are clearly seen by the things on Earth, as Paul taught in Rom. 1:20, then we have a right to believe that there are in Heaven the same kind of things that we have on Earth. We have no right to make an exception of any good thing that God created and intended for man to have before the fall. And, according to scripture, Heaven is located somewhere in the Northern hemisphere. When Satan wanted to invade heaven he said; Isa. 14:13, For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
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