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  1. It helps to get all that is written about this event. The Rapture is a distinct coming in itself, not to the Earth, but in the air where Christ meets the saints and then takes them back to Heaven to present them blameless before God the Father, John 14:1-3; 1 Thess. 3:13; 4:16, 17. The Rapture takes place several years before the literal advent of Christ to the Earth, for they, the saints come back with Him at that time. The saints are in Heaven before God, and not in the air, from the time of the Rapture to their coming again with Christ to reign as kings and priests, Jude 14; Rev. 19:14; Zech. 14:5. At the Rapture, the Lord comes from Heaven as far as the air, or Earthly Heavens and the saints will be caught up to meet Him in the air. At the second coming, the saints are not raptured, and neither is Christ, but both will come back to the Earth together. The rapture takes place before the Tribulation, whereas the second Advent takes place after the Tribulation. The Rapture could occur at any time, whereas the second Advent cannot occur until after the tribulation. The bible clearly states that the hinderer of lawlessness must be removed before the Antichrist is revealed, 2 Thess. 2:7-8, For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. V. 8, And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: There are only there things in the world today that hinder lawlessness. They are the church, the Holy Spirit and human governments. The hinderer that will be taken out of the world must refer to one of these three things. It could not refer to the Holy Spirit and governments for neither will be taken out of the world. It is clear that governments will not be taken for the Antichrist will reign over the ten kingdoms during the tribulation (Dan. 7:23-24; Rev. 17:8-17). The Holy Spirit will be here during the tribulation, so He could not be the hinderer taken (Acts. 2:16-21; John 14:16; Rev. 7:14; 12:17; 19:10; Zech. 12:10). The Church will be taken out of the world, (1 Thess. 4:16; Eph. 5:26-27; 1 Cor. 15:51-58), so this must be the hinderer referred to If you cannot understand how the church could be referred to as "he," see Eph. 2:15; 4:13 where the church is called a "man." The purpose of the rapture is to resurrect the just from the dead and take all the saints out of the world before the tribulation comes, in order that they may have fulfilled in them the purpose for which God has saved them. Jesus told the disciples that some would escape the terrible things that were to transpire on the Earth in the last days. He said, “Pray that you may be accounted worth to escape all these things of, Matt. 24, 25; Luke 21:1-19, 25-28, that shall come to pass, and stand before the Son of man,” Luke 21:34-36. These two passages in Luke 21:34-36 and John 14:1-3, are the only ones in the Gospels that are clear concerning the Rapture. Jesus did not reveal this, it was revealed by Paul many years later in 1 Cor. 15:51. The disciples did not have the slightest idea as to how they were to escape, unless they thought that Christ would deliver them from these things through His power. The how was not revealed or even mentioned before Paul explained how they were to escape. The Rapture of the church should never be confused with the second coming or second advent of Christ, for He does not come to the earth at that time. The Rapture is a distinct coming in itself, not to the Earth, but in the air where Christ meets the saints and then takes them back to Heaven to present them blameless before God the Father, John 14:1-3; 1 Thess. 3:13; 4:16, 17. The Rapture takes place several years before the literal advent of Christ to the Earth, for they, the saints come back with Him at that time. The saints are in Heaven before God, and not in the air, from the time of the Rapture to their coming again with Christ to reign as kings and priests, Jude 14; Rev. 19:14; Zech. 14:5. At the Rapture, the Lord comes from Heaven as far as the air, or Earthly Heavens and the saints will be caught up to meet Him in the air. At the second coming, the saints are not raptured, and neither is Christ, but both will come back to the Earth together. The rapture takes place before the Tribulation, whereas the second Advent takes place after the Tribulation. The Rapture could occur at any time, whereas the second Advent cannot occur until after the tribulation.
  2. Sure Jesus did say Let the children come to me; do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God. Notice He never told the apostles or the parents to baptize them did He.
  3. Like I and the Scriptures prove there is not one word that commands infant baptism. The Scriptures also do not forbid plunging ones arm into boiling water as well, so does that mean we should do it? Mark 16:15, And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. v. 16, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Ask a new born if it believes and see what reply you receive. Its common sense to teach children as soon as they are able to receive knowledge, but to talk about the Word and God's plan for mankind to newborn's would mean nothing to them at all to them.
  4. Heb 13:8 said: Where do you think God's throne is in Rev 12:5? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Lucifer tried to invade heaven and dethrone God, Isiah 14: 12, How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13, For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14, I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. God like lightening cast him back to the earth, Luke 10:18, And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Psalms 75: 6-7, For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south. 7, But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another. God's throne is in the Northern hemisphere, so far out we cannot see it. Heaven is a created place (Genesis 1:1), "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." There are three heavens beside the Heaven where God now lives. Where God lived before He created the HEAVENS is not mentioned in Scripture so its a waste of time debating this. Beside the Heaven where God now dwells (Gen. 21:17; 22:11,15 : 2 Cor. 12:1-3; Deut. 26:15; 1 Kings 8:30), there are two other spheres called heaven. Paul speaks of three heavens (2 Cor. 12:1-3). The third heaven is here called Paradise where God lives. The other two heavens are the clouds(Gen, 1;8; 7:23; 8:2; Job 38:9, 34; Isa. 14:14; Jer. 51:16), and the starry space between the Earth, and the Heaven where God lives, (Gen. 1:15-20; 22:17; Isa. 14:12-14; Ps. 8:3).
  5. I'm no judging them, I'm stating a fact. New born babies have no idea of what is happening when water is sprinkled on their foreheads, which is not a true baptism. True baptism is being fully immersed in water. How does one begin to train our children in the way they should travel in righteousness, before they can even speak one word? Infant baptism is not taught in Scripture. There is not one word that mentions any such thing. On the contrary, it is clear from Scripture that baptism is only after men have repented and have been born again by the Spirit of God. Infants are not lost due to the fact that they are not old enough to be responsible for any sins and therefore could not repent of known sins. They cannot be fit candidates for water baptism which is a symbol of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and a testimony to the world that the individual has been saved from a life of sin and that he is walking in newness of life. Only personal disciples and followers of Jesus Christ were commanded to be baptised (Matthew 28:19-20; Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2: 38-39).
  6. I posted this on page one, my first post on this thread; .
  7. I totally agree! And that is also why infant baptism is a total waste of time. Infant baptism is not taught in Scripture. There is not one word that mentions any such thing. On the contrary, it is clear from Scripture that baptism is only after men have repented and have been born again by the Spirit of God. Infants are not lost due to the fact that they are not old enough to be responsible for any sins and therefore could not repent of known sins. They cannot be fit candidates for water baptism which is a symbol of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and a testimony to the world that the individual has been saved from a life of sin and that he is walking in newness of life. Only personal disciples and followers of Jesus Christ were commanded to be baptised (Matt. 28:19-20; Mark. 38:19-20; Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2: 38-39).
  8. I agree, I'm sure there are many lies told, and cover-ups by government and their officials, for example, ordering the Smithsonian institute to destroy the entire collection of giant skeletons, enabling the theory of evolution to be sustained and in so doing, to hide the fact that angels did leave their estate and come in unto the daughters of men and produced giants. That's a biblical fact. A flat earth lie would prove nothing or further any work of Satan other than cause disunity among believers in God.
  9. These hidden truths, "they will publish a lie as the truth, and the truth they will call a lie," are the truths of the Word of God. Nothing in the Old or New Testament refers to a flat earth as being truth. The lies, mixed with a little truth here and there, started by Satan are what has harmed millions or even billions of souls all over the world as well as in the Untied States.... Believing in a flat or round earth has nothing whatsoever to do with mans salvation. Its the arguing about this sort of thing that can cause division. Satan loves to cause arguments and disagreement among people, especially God's people. Personally, I see no reason at all, and no advantage at all for the American Government or NASSA to go to all the trouble of posting or publishing lies and photographs of the moon, Earth, galaxies. People who believe in a flat earth are free to do so, just as people who believe in a round earth are free to do so. Evidence presented by science and NASSA shows a round earth. I look at the horizon from a great height and see a curved horizon with ships slowly disappearing as they get further away, as if they are slowly sinking in the ocean. I believe the earth is "ROUND."
  10. Scientist-astronaut Harrison H. Schmitt stands by the American flag during a moonwalk on the Apollo 17 mission. Home, that small dot in the blackness of space above the flag, is a quarter-million miles away. Schmitt, Gene Cernan and Ron Evans made the Apollo program's final journey to the moon in December 1972. Photo Credit: NASA Last Updated: July 31, 2015 Editor: NASA Administrator National Aeronautics and Space Administration Page Last Updated: July 31, 2015 NASA Official: Brian Dunbar. https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_335.html
  11. On Aug. 23, 1966, the world received its first view of Earth taken by a spacecraft from the vicinity of the Moon. The photo was transmitted to Earth by the Lunar Orbiter I and received at the NASA tracking station at Robledo De Chavela near Madrid, Spain. The image was taken during the spacecraft's 16th orbit. Image credit: NASA https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_335.html Editor: NASA Administrator.
  12. Hi Hope helping. Jesus is not homeless. Jesus now sits at His Fathers right hand in Heaven, waiting for the Father to send Him back. Ephesians 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, In which region are you wanting to build a church?
  13. You are too kind, and again I apologise for my error. God bless you!
  14. My apologies, I misunderstood this statement thinking you may have changed you view. .