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THE CHURCH DID NOT BEGIN AT PENTECOST


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Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

Jesus, after his resurrection, spoke unto the twelve apostles of the kingdom of God (Acts 1:3). The aspect of the kingdom of God Jesus spoke of was the kingdom of the Davidic covenant; the kingdom promised Israel to reign with Christ on earth (1 Chronicles 17:12 Daniel 7:18 Luke 1:32 Revelation 5:10). The apostles wanted to know if Jesus was about to restore the kingdom to Israel (Acts 1:6).

Jesus commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, the Holy Ghost, to empower them for the tribulation period (Luke 24:49 Acts 1:5).

2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

The apostles, filled with the Holy Ghost, began to speak in tongues.

2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

Speaking in tongues, as can clearly be seen in verse 6, is speaking in the hearers language. Also in verses 8 and 11, tongues involves the ability given the apostles to speak and be heard in a specific language, not of their own. It was a sign given them to substantiate their ministry.

Peter, standing with the eleven, spoke in the following verse:

2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

Pentecost, and the filling of the Holy Ghost, was prophesied by Joel. This was a fulfillment of prophecy in Joel 2:28-32. Joel speaks to Israel about the day of the Lord (Joel 2:1). Joel speaks of turning to the Lord (Joel 2:12); that the Lord is in their midst (Joel 2:27). Peter was exhorting Israel in Acts 2:40 to save itself from this untoward generation and be spared the coming wrath. This prophecy was directed to Israel, and those present were for the most part Jews.

2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

In the above verses it should be noted that Peter was not addressing the newly formed church, the Body of Christ, but rather, Israel only. Peter preached Jesus as Christ, and his resurrection, the gospel of the Circumcision (Galatians 2:7). The resurrection of Jesus Christ would assure the fulfillment of the future promised kingdom on earth, in which, he was raised from the dead to sit on the throne of David. The Holy Spirit will cause Israel to keep his commandments, and reign and rule with him over the nations, to be a light of salvation to the Gentiles (Isaiah 60:3 Ezekiel 36:24-28 Revelation 20:4 Matthew 5:14).

2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Peter, in the above verses, states that Jesus is both Lord and Christ. Jesus rose from the dead declaring that he is the Son of God (Romans 1:4).

In verse 38 below, Peter shows that Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah, the Saviour of Israel, who alone can forgive the sins of the nation of Israel.

2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

Peter is only offering the above promises of remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Ghost to repentant Israel, and those Gentiles who would come to God thru Israel.

2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

The believers were baptized according to the commandment of the Davidic covenant announced by John the Baptist (Matthew 3:2); the cleansing for the remission of sins; the recognition of the name,authority, and the identity of Jesus. Just like Peter in Acts 2:40 John warned Israel to flee the wrath to come (Matthew 3:7). The believers were added to them, the church of God and the kingdom to come, not the body of Christ.

2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

They sold all they had and provided to all according to the commandment to Israel by Jesus in Matthew 13:46 and Matthew 19:21.

2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

They were in one accord as well. The church here is not the body of Christ. The church here are the believers in Christ who were promised entrance into the kingdom on earth. The kingdom which is postponed and interrupted by our dispensation of Grace.

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17 minutes ago, douge said:

They were in one accord as well.

This is rare enough to make note of.

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17 minutes ago, douge said:

The church here is not the body of Christ.

This may or may not be accurate appraisal.   It looks more like 'opinion' of man, though, than statement of Scripture clear and true.

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18 minutes ago, douge said:

The church here are the believers in Christ who were promised entrance into the kingdom on earth.

This at the very least would need to be clarified.   (here and previous also - as to definitions to be shown from Scripture:  for instance,  demons believe, and shudder in terror - so are demons also 'believers' ? 

Are,  more hopeful,   for a few,   are "believers in Christ" not only believing in Christ, but are IN CHRIST ?  

So few and so little is understood worldwide about "the kingdom on earth",  that is really quite wide open to perhaps a wide path ?

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22 minutes ago, douge said:

The kingdom which is postponed and interrupted by our dispensation of Grace.

Again,  this looks more like some group's opinion,  than a statement from God in Scripture.....  so perhaps not only clarification is needed,  but also some adjustment/ correction/  to what is the kingdom,  what is postponed,  what is interrupted,  and how is it supposedly interrupted by "dispensation of Grace" ?   and how did the "dispensation of Grace", if it is true,  become "our dispensation" ?

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On 5/5/2020 at 4:29 PM, simplejeff said:

This may or may not be accurate appraisal.   It looks more like 'opinion' of man, though, than statement of Scripture clear and true.

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On 5/5/2020 at 4:29 PM, simplejeff said:

The church here is not the body of Christ.

We are in Acts 2 here.....The church of God was the only church and said by Paul to be the church he persecuted....the church, the body of Christ was not revealed before Paul.

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On 5/5/2020 at 4:29 PM, simplejeff said:
On 5/5/2020 at 4:06 PM, douge said:

The church here are the believers in Christ who were promised entrance into the kingdom on earth.

This at the very least would need to be clarified.   (here and previous also - as to definitions to be shown from Scripture:  for instance,  demons believe, and shudder in terror - so are demons also 'believers' ? 

Are,  more hopeful,   for a few,   are "believers in Christ" not only believing in Christ, but are IN CHRIST ?  

I have not really thought on this.....good point.....demons knew Jesus is Son of God (Matthew 8:29), which was required for eternal life (John 20:31) and of course they are not saved...what do you think is the difference...rebellion?

The church of God before Paul believed in the name of Christ, they were in Christ before Paul (Romans 16:7) and the revelation of the church, the body of Christ.

I am not being antagonistic, just passing on my understanding... good points

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