john1 Posted November 16, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 2:19 PM, ArmsOpenWide said: Because all you have to do is believe? I believe almost anything can be proved by the bible. Galatians chapter 2 verse 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!" But I believe we still have to show love and mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted November 16, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,220 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,480 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 1:19 PM, ArmsOpenWide said: Been contemplating this for a while. I know the bible says (and I'm loosely quoting /paraphrasing) that fornicators, and witches, and gay people won't go to heaven. But the bible also says that whoever believes in Jesus will have everlasting life. So, does being gay, or a witch, or a fornicator actually matter? If somebody believes in Jesus, they go to heaven right? Obviously believing in Jesus will lead to a relationship with him and a desire NOT to sin (or at least it should) but for people who are gay or who lead lifestyles considered "sinful" but actually do, truely believe in Jesus, they've met the only necessary requirement for salvation right? Because all you have to do is believe? Please correct me if I'm wrong. It's about essence not word saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 22, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,647 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/14/2020 at 10:50 PM, Tristen said: Hi JohnD, I'm not really sure what in my post you are responding to here. Ultimately my point about the long list of sinners who won't enter the kingdom of heaven should and must include the understanding that each entry on that list refers to unbelievers. Unbelieving liars, unbelieving disobedient to parents, unbelieving adulterers, unbelieving fornicators, unbelieving homosexuals, unbelieving murderers... The Bible teaches that there is only one sin God in Grace through Christ cannot / will not forgive: unbelief in Jesus (John 3:18). And once we have that faith in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 5:5 (which I referred to "then why this verse) assures us we cannot lose our salvation under any circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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