rafter Posted May 2, 2003 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 200 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1954 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 blessedbygod, I don't want to upset you, but president Bush goes to a Methodist Church. That is what is so interesting that he would not meet with them............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blessedbygod Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 you did not upset me. I knew this, but not all Methodist churches believe the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted May 2, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 193 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,459 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/28/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/20/1965 Share Posted May 2, 2003 No, they absolutely do not. I only have the experience of the one Methodist church, but here is something interesting. The pastor when I was there did not pay in...whatever it is the church pays into the denomination. And the church was growing by leaps and bounds. Like I said, I only have the experience of the one church, but it was a Jesus worshipping, hands-raising, shofar-blowing, tongues-speaking, members-prophesying church. Don't think I ever heard the word Methodist. The pastor that came along next said that the Word of God teaches obedience and they would send what they owed to UMC. Now, the church is dead. Is there a lesson there? Rafter Did you read any more of the Sprague story? It's pretty interesting....maybe sickening is the right word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted May 2, 2003 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 200 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1954 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 Rafter Did you read any more of the Sprague story? It's pretty interesting....maybe sickening is the right word. Sickening is the right word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brontosaurus Posted May 9, 2003 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 182 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/14/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1977 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Jatfla - great topic! Â Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Â Whatever reasons the president had for refusing to meet, I applaud him and I am continually amazed at how much more "Christian" he is than all the presidents we've had as far back as I can remember! Â What a testimony that he refused to meet with members of his OWN denomination - perhaps because he got saved "for real" several years back and now stands strongly against abortion and gay rights and terrorism and for Israel. Rafter - I think your situation has a very clear answer. Â I'm surprised no one brought up this verse yet, but maybe it hasn't come to anyone's minds... I Corinthians 5:9-11 "I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people-- not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat." It is clear that if they call themselves Christians, but believe not as Christians in the most important issues (like ressurrection of Christ) then they are worse than the world and we are to avoid them like the plague. Like every heretical group that crept out of or into Christianity since the beginning, this one too will eventually fade and die off. Â We should concern ourselves with growing in the Lord and reaching out to those who've never heard the gospel the first time... Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
five Posted May 22, 2003 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted May 22, 2003 Our President Bush seems to identify more along the lines with these great United Methodist renewal movements: The Confessing Movement Aldersgate Renewal Ministries Call 4 Reform - For UMC Women If your United Methodist Church isn't acquainted with these movements yet, get them familiar with these fantastic resources today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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