APRIL 8th PREDICTION

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BLACK SEA FLEET SHIPS TO CRUISE IN MEDITERRANEAN

MOSCOW, March 9 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Black Sea Fleet's Azov large landing ship left Sevastopol, the main Russian Black Sea naval base, for the Mediterranean on Wednesday, the Black Sea Fleet spokesman told RIA Novosti.

The Azov, flying the flag of Captain 1st Rank Valery Kulikov, commander of a landing ship force, is to practice several tasks in the Black and Mediterranean Seas and cruise to the Syrian Arab Republic where she will call at the port of Tartus," the spokesman said.

In the Syrian port, the ship will conduct a scheduled replacement of logistics at the Black Sea Fleet's logistic supply base in Tartus.

"The Azov also will bring equipment for repairing the main berth and life support systems on base. The port call schedule provides for no meetings with the civil and military authorities of Tartus," the spokesman said.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/lib...ianovosti10.htm

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ENP Confirms Barcelona

An EU official by the name of Margot Wallstr

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Assembly of the Many

Yes he was. The EU's Javier Solana was in Cairo attending the inaugural meeting of the Euromed Assembly. As I reported earlier, Margot Wallstrom, deputy president of the Commission, was there giving a speech. Also there was Luxembourg Minister Nicolas Schmit, representing the Union's rotating presidency and Josep Borrell, President of the European Parliament (Read about it here)>>>> http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/news/natio...4433318588.html

Friends, these are all EU big hitters. And, there was even a pinch hitter present. Amr Moussa, Secretary General of the Arab League, showed up in Cairo and gave a speech too.

What's the Euromed Assembly? They are the EU and Mediterranean nations who signed on to Solana's Euro-Mediterranean Partnership for Peace he negotiated back in 1995. And, I'm beginning to suspect they may be something more. I suspect this group of nations may actually be "the many" that are mentioned in prophecy. In the Old Testament book of Daniel we read:

"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate" (Daniel 9:27 New American Standard Bible).

What is this assembly of the many up to? For one thing, they want to act as mediator in the Israeli/Palestinian dispute (Read about it here)>>>> http://www2.europarl.eu.int/omk/sipade2?PU...&NAV=X&LSTDOC=N

No kidding. Why doesn't that surprise us?

Remember that speech by Margot Wallstrom? Well, it turns out some of these Mediterranean nations were worried about the EU's new European Neighborhood Policy (ENP). They were afraid its purpose was to replace their Euro-Mediterranean Partnership. So, in her speech, Wallstrom assured them that wasn't the case. She said the ENP was to strengthen it. She said:

"the European Neighborhood Policy does not replace the process launched ten years ago in Barcelona. It renews it, clarifies it and breathes fresh life into it" (Read about it here)>>>> http://europa.eu.int/rapid/pressReleasesAc...&guiLanguage=en

Now, let's try putting this all together. The Euromed nations want to be the mediator in the Israeli/Palestinian dispute. Solana and other EU big hitters were there. The head of the Arab League was there. Solana's ENP strengthens, or confirms, his Euromed Barcelona Process. How? With action plans and programs that the Council -- Solana -- will monitor for compliance.

Israel was the first nation to sign its action plan. Suddenly, it looks like peace is possible in the Middle East.

Question: Could we also assume Solana's monitoring will include confirming both Israel's and the Palestinian Authority's compliance to whatever peace agreement is reached? Could he actually confirm a covenant with the many, beginning on January 1, 2007, for a seven year period?

Na! It's too good a fit.

03-17-2005

http://fulfilledprophecy.com/assembly_ofthe_many.html

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I'd like to add something to Herb Peter's commentary in the previous post. He failed to mention that the EuroMed Assembly meets at least once annually. I'd also like to point out that my hunch a few weeks back was correct. The Barcelona Process that was originally held in Madrid, Spain in 1995 has evolved into European Neighborhood Policy (ENP). All of the nations involved form a land mass that is almost an exact replica of the ancient Roman Empire.

Yes indeed, the Roman Empire is reviving.

Stay tuned!

[Guest Reverend Turmoil]

I'd like to add something to Herb Peter's commentary in the previous post.

Edited March 18, 2005 by Reverend Turmoil

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RT,

If you so adamently believe in the RRE,

let's see that one scripture that links Rome to it!

I replied with scripture that you requested.  Can you produce one?

Rev.

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From one rT to another RT,

Thanks for the challenge, but as I told you yesterday, I don't have the time to debate with you. I did give a brief answer and passage on the other thread. That's the best I can do for now. Maybe some other time? It's perfectly fine with me that we are watching two different scenario's. Believe me, I don't have the slightest bit of a problem with that.

Grace and peace to you.

[Guest Reverend Turmoil]

RT,

If you so adamently believe in the RRE,

let's see that one scripture that links Rome to it!

I replied with scripture that you requested.

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Shockwave in France after poll shows rejection of EU constitution

Document Actions Constitution for Europe18/03/2005

France was hit by a political shockwave Friday after an opinion poll for the first time suggested that a majority of the public will reject the EU's constitution at a referendum in ten weeks' time.

After weeks in which the "no" camp has made steady but unspectacular progress among a minority of voters, the survey in Le Parisien newspaper showed a sudden leap to 51 percent -- largely explained by a big increase in opposition to the constitution on the left.

According to the CSA survey, support for the "no" vote grew from 31 percent six months ago to 37 percent in mid-February before spurting ahead just as the country went through a period of mass anti-government strikes and demonstrations.

The figures were disastrous news for President Jacques Chirac, who has put his political weight behind the EU constitution, and showed the difficulties of mobilising support for a document that few members of the public pretend to understand clearly.

They were also a blow to the opposition Socialist party (PS) which is officially campaigning for the constitution but is riven by a deep internal split. Embarrassingly, the CSA poll showed that a large majority of Socialist supporters -- 59 percent -- opposes the text.

A rejection of the constitution in the vote on May 29 would have enormous implications, both in France and across the EU.

The document -- which is meant to streamline decision-making in the expanding bloc -- must be ratified in all 25 member states, and it is hard to see how it could survive in its existing form if turned down in one of the EU's largest and most important countries.

The French former president of the European Commission Jacques Delors warned Thursday that a "no" vote would cause a "political cataclysm" in France. "And in Europe it will open up a very serious crisis which will slow down European construction -- at the expense of French interests," he said.

Several factors were being presented Friday as explanations for the surging success of the "no" camp in France -- including the unpopularity of Chirac's centre-right government, fears over Turkish entry into the EU, and the focus on a controversial proposal to liberalise EU service industries.

The so-called Bolkestein directive -- named after a former Dutch commissioner for the EU's internal market -- has dominated the news in France in the last weeks, allowing opponents to portray it as a symbol of Europe's general surrender to big business interests.

Described by former Socialist prime minister Laurent Fabius as a "foretaste of the European constitution," the directive would make it possible for service-providers such as architects or accountants to operate across the 25 members.

But opponents say it would lead to "social dumping" as business and jobs relocate to the low-cost economies of eastern Europe. Spotting the political danger, Chirac has himself condemned the directive -- but as an issue it has played strongly into the hands of his opponents.

In Brussels the European commission said it was "concerned" by the rise in support for a "no" vote, but spokeswoman Francoise Le Bail said that "the controversy over the Bolkestein directive and misunderstandings that arise from it were certainly a factor."

Supporters of the constitution argued that the "yes" campaign has yet to get underway -- and that once the advantages are properly explained the public will understand the importance of voting yes.

But Chirac is haunted by fears that voters will use the EU referendum as an opportunity to punish his government -- at a time when growing unemployment, falling disposable incomes and record profits for top companies have combined to build a mood of popular discontent.

Memories are strong of the 1992 referendum on the Maastricht treaty which was won by just a whisker after the "yes" vote fell sharply in the campaign.

And Chirac also knows that many left-wingers resent having been made to vote for him against far-right leader Jean-Marie Le Pen in the May second round of the 2002 presidential election, and will jump at the chance to make his life difficult exactly three years later.

http://www.eubusiness.com/afp/050318095322.26o7pxn3

[Guest Reverend Turmoil]

RT,

What does this have to do with anything other than divert attention away from the issue at hand.

You have a lot to say but little to offer to a challenge on this April 8th prediction.

Seems to me that you have more time than you think!

Those of you who believe in the RRE should surely be able and willing to defend it.

Therefore, you must explain Daniel 8, Jeremiah 51:11, Daniel 5:31, Isaiah 13:17.

Oh, and Daniel2, the inferior kingdom also!

One more thing you may want to consider...

The word covenant in Daniel 9:27 isn't a peace treaty. It means a "confederacy or an alliance. Israel will never be confederate with the Palestinians or any other Arab nation. They have had peace treaties with them, which are made with enemies. But this covenant is a confederacy, (allies) which is made with friends!

Just another scripture which gives support to the nonexistant RRE!

RT

Edited March 19, 2005 by Reverend Turmoil

[Lori0218]

Does anyone know the source of this article? I recieved it in the the mail this morning.

Subject: FW: WEU Recommendation 666 created by Assembly by the

ten-nation Brussels Treaty!

Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:39:23 -0600

A failed 7 year 'land for peace' deal, the position of 'prince'

in a revived Roman Empire, (created by Assembly Recommendation 666 which is dominated by the ten-nation Brussels Treaty signatories.)

If you turn on the broadcast news, or read the headlines, you come

away with the impression that peace and safety is about (once more)

to break out throughout the Middle East.

It seems that now, the same folks who were complaining when Arafat

was sidelined by President Bush as an 'obstacle to peace' agree that

now Arafat is dead, there is a 'real chance' for peace -- but don't

expect any of them to ever openly admit that Arafat was the problem

all along.

It is another clever example of America's and Israel's critics taking

both sides of a contradictory position simultaneously.

When Arafat died, most countries ordered the flags flown at

half-staff.

The United Nations ordered ALL its flags be lowered to honor the man

they now tacitly admit was an unrepentant murderer and terrorist

whose policies are responsible for the deaths of 2500 of his own

people, the destruction of their social infrastructure and the author

of their misery.

Indeed, when Secretary of State Rice visited with Mahmoud Abbas this

week, she made headlines because she did NOT stop at Arafat's

graveside to honor him as she passed it on her way to meet with the

Palestinian leader -- like everybody else did.

Consider the complete picture:

There isn't a diplomat or a news reporter who won't readily admit

that the reason for the renewed hope for peace is the removal of

Yasser Arafat from the equation.

Mahmoud Abbas was Prime Minister of the PA for two years and was

supposed to be the 'go-to' guy for peace -- he was appointed to that

role after the US refused to deal further with Arafat.

America's decision to sideline Arafat was criticized as unhelpful by

the UN, EU, Arab governments, the news media and America's lunatic

left who seized it as a chance to 'pile on' the administration.

But to listen to them now, the PA and Israel have reached a

'landmark' because the PA agreed to a 'ceasefire'. Why? There've been

dozens of 'ceasefires' in the past - not one of them held. Mahmoud

Abbas was the PA's Prime Minister and the responsible party in the

Quartet's road map to peace during previous ceasefires. What makes

this one different?

Ask anybody and they'll tell you it's because Arafat is dead. But ask

them if Arafat was really the obstacle to peace all along, and,

depending on whom you ask, you'll either get a glare, stony silence

or an argument.

Even the Pope supported Arafat in life and issued great swelling

words of mourning at his death, fer cryin' out loud.

But now that he is dead, the working assumption is that the peace

process can move forward and that there is reason for new hope that

didn't exist when Arafat was still alive.

Here's how that looks boiled down into one sentence. "Israel is a

terrorist state that was the obstacle to peace, and Arafat was a

'pioneer' for peace worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize and other

international honors -- but now that Arafat is dead, peace is now

possible."

We ran a poll on Oracle asking the question, "Do you believe Abbas

and Sharon can work out a lasting peace?"

Admittedly, the Oracle poll is hardly a scientific one that queries a

representative cross-section -- Oracle readers are generally less

biased against Israel -- but 78% of those who responded chose the

answer, "I don't believe it is remotely possible."

Part of the reason is because Oracle (and Omega Letter) readers know

things about the history of the peace 'process' that the average

person doesn't.

First, although the PA has agreed to a ceasefire, Hamas has not and

will not. Hamas' isn't a political party seeking political

accommodation. It is an Islamic party seeking Israel's annihilation.

For Hamas to recognize Israel's right to exist, it would have to

abandon its interpretation of Islam that says the Holy Land belongs

to Islam.

We've talked about the Koran and the two 'zones' of Islam, the Dar al

Islam (zone already under Islam) and the Dar al Haran (area yet to be

conquered for Allah -- or 'zone of war') in the past. Israel was

under Islamic control for 1,200 years.

Hamas can never recognize that it is not now part of Dar al Islam

without denying its interpretation of Islamic scriptures and

admitting it conducted a holy war and lost.

Recognizing Israel's right to exist means surrendering despite

Allah's promise of ultimate victory.

Let's put it in terms we can understand from our own perspective. It

would be as if the only way Israel could have peace would be if you

agreed to renounce your belief that Jesus is the only way to heaven.

That the Scriptures were wrong about Israel, and that the New

Testament contradicts the Old, instead of its being a continuation of

unfolding revelation.

That is what it means to an Islamic fundamentalist to recognize

Israel's right to exist. It is an admission that the Old Testament

deed to the Holy Land is valid and that the Koran's reassignment of

Jerusalem to Islam is not -- in essence, invalidating Islam's core

doctrine.

There is no way that Islam can countenance Israeli possession of the

holy places without admitting the Koran is in error. That is why we

began with a discussion of Arafat. The whole world agrees that his

death increased the chances for peace, yet they continue to honor him

officially as a 'peacemaker'.

To openly acknowledge Arafat's true nature is to admit that the UN,

the Vatican, the Europeans, and, until the first Bush administration,

most of the rest of the world, backed a terrorist government fighting

to destroy the only working democracy in the Middle East.

That would be an embarrassment. But for Hamas or the Islamic world to

recognize Israel's right to exist means the end of Islam. The process

ongoing may well lead to a period of temporary peace and safety for

Israel -- but the operative word is 'temporary'.

The Bible also foresees a period of temporary peace and safety for

Israel in the last days.

(Even as I type these words, I am stricken with renewed awe at the

thought that the Bible could even foresee Israel's EXISTENCE at this

point in history, let alone describe its exact political situation in

detail. It is equally important to remember that the Jewish State has

existed for only fifty-eight of the last 2000 years)

Ezekiel speaks to a period of time when Israel will be 'a land of

unwalled villages' (Israel is currently building a wall), describing

Israel as a people, "at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling

without walls, and having neither bars nor gates," (Ezekiel 38:11) at

the time of the Gog Magog invasion.

Daniel's prophecy is even more breathtaking, describing a seven-year

covenant that will be 'confirmed' by the antichrist for one 'week'

(seven years) but that the confirmed covenant will be broken halfway

through. (Daniel 9:27)

Daniel described the covenant as one in which he "shall divide the

land for gain." (Daniel 11:39)

The failed Oslo Agreement signed in 1993 (that spawned what Israel

calls the 'Oslo War') was due to have reached its goal by September,

2000 and was based on the formula of 'land for peace'.

Just think of it! In order for the antichrist to 'confirm' a

seven-year covenant based on a formula that will 'divide the land [of

Israel] for [political] gain' there must first be a covenant based on

that formula in existence.

(You can't even confirm a dentist's appointment unless there was

first an appointment made to confirm.)

But it just so happens that there IS a peace covenant between Israel

and 'the many', outlining a seven-year process based on the formula

of 'land for peace' that needs confirming.

The vision of 'two states side-by-side' will never be realized,

politically speaking, without a universally recognized border

(dividing what used to be Israel) into two separate states.

But the one who 'confirms' Daniel's covenant isn't the US president,

or a 'Quartet' or the United Nations. Daniel says it will be

confirmed by the 'prince' of a revived Roman Empire consisting of ten

'kings'. (Note that Daniel calls the antichrist a 'prince' and not a

'king')

The modern EU consists of 28 nations, and at its core is the Western

European Union consisting of 25. But the WEU has only ten FULL

members, the ten most powerful 'kings' in Europe.

Both organizations agreed to be led by a kind of 'prince'. In June,

2000, the WEU met at its 46th Session to discuss merger with the EU

and decided it couldn't take place.

So instead, it recommended creating a kind of joint secretariat

whereby the Secretary General of the EU would also be the Secretary

General of the WEU, creating a kind of 'prince' appointed by ten

'kings' who, although subordinate to them, wields more power as an

individual than the 'kings' can collectively.

That recommendation is on the books as WEU Recommendation 666 and the

current 'prince' of the revived Roman Empire is Javier Solana.

And Solana has been working overtime to insinuate Europe into the

Arab-Israeli conflict, going so far as to tell Israel the EU would be

part of the process, whether Israel 'likes it or not.'

Before anybody jumps the gun, I don't know if Solana is the

antichrist. To tell you the truth, I kind of doubt it.

The Bible says the whole world will accept the antichrist as 'god'

and will worship him as such in order to participate in his system.

Even Christians who believe that they will go through the Tribulation

have to admit that, when the antichrist comes on the scene, he will

be so seductive and "shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch

that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect,"

according to Jesus. (Matthew 24:24)

Most mid and post trib interpreters point to the reference to the

'very elect' Jesus is referring to as being evidence of the Church

during the Tribulation. If they are correct, then the antichrist is

unlikely to be Solana.

Solana doesn't fit the profile, but his job description does.

The Solana question aside, everything else is falling into place with

such precision as to be undeniable.

Ticking them off, we have;

a failed 7 year 'land for peace' deal, the position of 'prince' in a

revived Roman Empire, (created by Assembly Recommendation 666 which

is dominated by the ten-nation Brussels Treaty signatories) and;

A renewed peace effort at a time when Israel is building a security

wall around itself, while the whole world deludes itself into

believing genuine peace is possible -- despite the religious element

that guarantees it is not.

(The power of that delusion is evidenced by the global willingness to

honor Arafat as a 'peacemaker' whose death is joked to be worthy of a

second Nobel Peace Prize)

As Israel struggles to obtain even an illusion of peace and safety,

to its north and east, the Gog Magog alliance is taking shape

precisely along the lines outlined by Ezekiel.

It couldn't be more obvious. Jesus IS coming soon. Current events are

conspiring together to bring about the exact political and religious

alignments described by the Bible, thousands of years ago, all

converging at exactly the same point in history.

The only fly in the ointment is the absence of the United States as a

major player on the global scene during the Tribulation Period.

Taken together with the absence of any mention of the Church's role

on earth during the Tribulation, it isn't a stretch to connect the

dots and conclude that these two omissions from the last days' record

are connected.

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall

all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last

trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised

incorruptible, and we shall be changed." (1 Corinthians 15:51-52)

"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with

them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever

be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

(1st Thessalonians 4:17-18)