Macho man complex

[missmuffet]

38 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said:

As does “feminism”.

What does the Bible say about feminism?

https://www.gotquestions.org

ANSWER

The modern concept of feminism was not present during the time that the Bible was written, but that does not mean the Bible has nothing to say on the basic issues of feminism. Even when the Scriptures seem to be silent on something that affects us today, there are eternal principles that speak to the underlying issue.

First, we should define feminism, since the term can have different meanings for different people. Basically, feminism is a philosophy that advocates equal rights for women and men—socially, politically, economically, and in other ways. Early feminists fought for and won suffrage for women. Today’s feminism goes further than demanding equal treatment of men and women, however. Modern feminists fight for abortion on demand, language equality (insisting on saying “chairperson” instead of “chairman,” for example), and the blurring of gender lines. The more radical feminists actively seek to overthrow any vestige of male dominance in society, oppose the biblical roles of husbands and wives, and promote lesbianism. Radical feminists deny there is any difference between men and women, teaching that any perceived differences between the sexes are due solely to social conditioning.

Modern feminism is a counterfeit solution to the real issue of the inequality of women in a sinful society. Feminism arrogates to itself the right to demand respect and equality in every aspect of life. Feminism is based in arrogance, and it is the opposite of the call to the born-again believer to be a servant. The modern, militant feminists call women to rise up and rebel against the order that God has given to humankind. That brand of feminism seeks to impose humanistic values in direct opposition to the Word of God. Feminism was originally a positive movement, focused on giving women the basic rights God intends for every human being to have. Tragically, feminism now focuses on destroying distinctions in the roles of men and women.

What then should be a Christian’s view of feminism? A believing woman who is seeking to obey God and walk in peace and grace should remember that she has equal access to all spiritual blessings in Christ. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28). A believing woman should not allow herself to be used as a pawn in the worldly agenda of the feminist movement. A believing man should uphold the nuclear family as the biblical model for society, promote true Christian values, and (if he’s married) honor and cherish his wife and take responsibility for protecting and providing for his family. Both men and women have a God-given privilege to fulfill the plan He has set for us. Rebellion against that plan and the arrogance that seeks to put self above God’s Word brings difficult consequences. We see those consequences in damaged relationships between husbands and wives, the destruction of the family, and the loss of respect for human life.

Many women today have bought into the lie that feminism will empower and free them. However, rallying for abortion, dispensing with God-given roles, and working to dismantle the family unit will bring neither power nor freedom. Protection of the innocent, obedience to God’s Word, and fortification of the family are much more empowering and freeing. “I will walk in freedom,” says the psalmist, “for I have devoted myself to your commandments” (Psalm 119:45).

There has always been inequality in the world. It is sad but true that artificial barriers have always divided humanity—barriers that have no basis in God’s Word. It is sin in the heart that causes inequality, sin that causes some men to treat women in demeaning or objectifying ways. And it is sin that seeks counterfeit solutions to counteract these inequalities. The only cure for discrimination and inequality is obedience to God. If men and women would humbly submit to God’s Word, then striving would cease, the genders would complement each other, and the harmony that God ordained would flourish.

Edited February 15, 2022 by missmuffet

[missmuffet]

Probably the opposite of the male man complex is a man being effeminate.

[Willa]

Are you talking about the men that like to act like John Wayne?  My father in law was one of those.  However, he was cruel, arrogant, controlling, selfish, unforgiving, unloving, unfaithful, and just used people, especially his own family.  He hated everyone there was to disdain including Christians and every race and nationality.  God used him in my life to teach me how much I needed Him to live in me to love the unlovable and forgive the unforgivable.  He died rejecting Christ as far as we know.

My dad was so opposite that.  He was a very strong person in character but reasonable, fair, compassionate, gentle and kind.  He didn't spank me often  but I clearly remember when he did.   He was the strength of our family and led by example, but he always got his way.    He considered himself a scholar and a philosopher till he was saved.  

[HopeInHim]

I am so confused by this point. The opposite of the so called “macho man complex” is to be “effeminate”? So according to your definition of the “macho man complex” being a negative set of traits, then being the opposite and “effeminate” would be positive? Are you then equating femininity with positivity and masculinity with negativity?

Also to call something a complex sounds like terminology from the various modern psychological associations and groups, which I don’t pay a lot of attention to. They see things from their worldly perspectives and can group any random set of traits together and call it some sort of “complex” or “disorder”. 

[HopeInHim]

2 hours ago, missmuffet said:

To determine why they have this personality a person would need to go back to their relationship with the parents. 

Not everyone’s personality is a result of the work of their parents - thankfully!

[missmuffet]

6 minutes ago, HopeInHim said:

Not everyone’s personality is a result of the work of their parents - thankfully!

No, but it could play a part. There are different types of personality disorders.

Edited February 15, 2022 by missmuffet

[HopeInHim]

58 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Probably the opposite of the male man complex is a man being effeminate.

What is a “male man complex”? Freudian slip? 

[missmuffet]

Just now, HopeInHim said:

What is a “male man complex”? Freudian slip? 

No, and error of my post  Macho man complex. 

[Warrior of truth]

4 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Of course you are masculine but it all depends on how you display that as a man of God. The Bible gives us warnings about conduct men should avoid.

1 Peter 5:3

Romans 12:3

It's not a medical condition. Its nothing but typical feminist garbage.

The bible says that women should not be in positions of power. There lays the real problem with feminists demanding that men be more effeminate... Many are simply jealous of men cos we are stronger and smarter...

To be honest your just making me want to be even more macsculine... Hit the bench press until my shirt rips off my chest like the incredible hulk... Run 100 meters in less than 10 seconds, lift 100kgs for fun, build a skyscraper or fix an engine and do all the stuff that most women cannot do.

You've revealed your true identity and iv taken note. Your a misandrist and a feminazi

Edited February 15, 2022 by Warrior of truth

[The_Patriot21]

Aaaaaah, the age old argument against "macho men" and how toxic they are....

One can go back and forth and point out all the toxic men...and the men can in turn point out all the toxic women...

And both will have some valid points, because face it people are toxic. 

However it should be noted a lot also depends on local culture and perspective. I live in a very blue collar environment...lots of oil field and coal mining work. Men tend to work very hard, they dress rough, they talk rough, they play rough and yes they fight rough to. Theyre loud and proud, but yet for the most part none of them will raise a hand against a woman, and will even still hold the door for one.

Yet in many of of the more liberal cities, this oil field man would be considered a toxic male, because men in cities tend to dress nicer, act in a much more "civilized" manner etc. A lot of these men arnt toxic either but they would definitely stick out in a blue collar field.

And yes you see a lot of your effimiment men...the males who have allowed themselves to he feminized. Theyre weak, they dress dainty, theyre always one to try and be nice and inclusive etc. Theyre shallow and concerned with the ways of this world.

We also have your scum...the ones who beat on women and are unnessarily violent.

So what is the solution? I recently joined a Facebook group titled "the league of savage gentlemen" which is dedicated to this very thing.

See we have men who are all gentleman but are to week to actually stand for anything...but on the other side we have men who have zero gentleman, who are 100% savage. 

This group is dedicated to finding the balance between the two. Its men who are trying to find the balance between knowing how and when to treat people with respect, and when to release the savage so to speak-because a true man should never run from conflict, but rather know how to face it.