New transitional fossil from late Jurassic of Chile sheds light on the origin of modern crocodiles

[Sparks]

1 hour ago, one.opinion said:

I’ll address your question after you address your misunderstanding of Darwin’s book title - and your evasion of the issue.

No you won't.  You traditionally skip questions you cannot address.  Nevertheless, these are AiG quotes that counter you and Barbarian:

Darwin and Racism

The full title of Darwin’s most famous work included some stark words: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. Darwin wasn’t the first to propose biological arguments for racism, but his works fueled the most ugly and deadly racism.

Darwin's Influence on Hitler

Hitler believed that people were engaged in a constant struggle for survival. The climax of history would be the survival of the fittest race—which he believed to be the “Aryan race.” Darwin’s theory, upon which those tyrants based their actions, was wrong.

Darwin’s Sacred Cause by Adrian Desmond and James Moore

In their efforts to rescue Darwin and evolution from its obvious racist implications, Desmond and Moore have tried to paint Darwin as the kindly humanitarian scientist. While their efforts are laudable, in the end their argument is not convincing, failing on several counts.

And there is much more.  Darwin was a racist, and so was his book title, and so where the end results from many dictators who read Darwin's work.

[The Barbarian]

9 hours ago, B-B said:

Language?

Irreducible complexity.   Your professor doesn't understand what it is.   Here's a real example:

Dr. Barry Hall took a culture of bacteria, unable to use a certain substance for food, and exposed them to that substance.    Over a long time, a series of mutations made the bacteria able to use that food.   This was expected.   Such evolution of new functions is not uncommon.  

But what Hall did not expect was that eventually, the bacteria evolved a regulator, a substance that made sure that the newly-evolved enzyme would be produced only if the substance was present.   

Now the system is composed of the substance, the enzyme that lets the bacteria use the substance for food, and a regulator that makes sure the enzyme is produced only when needed.    A three-part system.   If you remove any one of the parts, the system no longer works.

And it was directly observed to evolve.   That's what irreducible complexity is.

As you now realize, because the human ear could be simplified and still work, it cannot be irreducibly complex.   Your professor, being a layman with little understanding of biology, did not realize this.

 

[one.opinion]

18 minutes ago, Sparks said:

And there is much more.  Darwin was a racist

This is quite likely. Most people of his day were.

19 minutes ago, Sparks said:

and so was his book title

This is not true. This has already been demonstrated to you. The “favoured races” referred to animal species and subspecies. Humans are virtually absent from this book.

Regardless, Hitler and The Third Reich committed atrocities because they were evil, not because of Darwin’s books.

In the same way, the Spanish Inquisition cannot be blamed on the Bible.

[The Barbarian]

43 minutes ago, Sparks said:

No you won't.  You traditionally skip questions you cannot address.  Nevertheless, these are AiG quotes that counter you and Barbarian:

Darwin and Racism

The full title of Darwin’s most famous work included some stark words: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life.

As you learned, "races" at that time meant species or sub-species of animals or plants.   Even honest creationist organizations admit that Darwin wasn't talking about human races.

Some creationsts like the leaders we mentioned earlier did include racist ideas and eugenics in the foundation of YE creationism, but because people like Darwin and his followers showed those ideas were foolish, many creationists today have abandoned the racist foundations of creationism.

 

43 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Hitler believed that people were engaged in a constant struggle for survival.

Darwin, in The Descent of Man, showed that such ideas were morally faulty as well as scientifically unsupportable.   He showed that cooperation and altruism were more important to humans than competition.     And he angered creationists of the time by saying that if one brought "savages" to England, they'd be just like Englishmen in a few generations.    Darwin thought that Englishmen were superior to other humans,but also realized that human differences were environmental, not innate differences as racists like Hitler and creationist Henry Morris believed.

Hitler adopted the eugenic ideas and racism of creationists like Morris.    This is one of the main differences between creationism and science.   

As you have seen, the Holocaust was based on Martin Luther's The Jews and Their Lies; Nazi leaders freely admitted it, and praised Luther's ideas.  

This is not to blame Christianity.   Racism and genocide are not intrinsically part of Christianity.   It was an unfortunate flaw in Luther's character, one that eventually killed millions of people.

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by The Barbarian

[B-B]

17 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

Irreducible complexity. 

Yes... Professor McIntosh has provided you with solid information in his talk. If you would care to watch and listen to it, the Lord may show you and help you to understand how the human ear has been designed by the Lord, and is an example of Irreducible Complexity. 

Of course the choice is yours. You can choose to stick to your guns and argue, or be enlightened/educated 😀

 

 

[The Barbarian]

As you now realize, because the human ear could be simplified and still work, it cannot be irreducibly complex.   Your professor, being a layman with little understanding of biology, did not realize this.

1 hour ago, B-B said:

Yes... Professor McIntosh has provided you with solid information in his talk.

As you have seen, he doesn't even know what irreducible complexity is, or how it evolves.   Which isn't surprising, as a layman, with no understanding of biology, he's pretty much in the dark.   I just showed you an example of irreducible complexity evolving.  

And since know from existing examples that the mammalian ear is not irreducibly complex, there's no point in denying the fact.  Monotreme mammalian middle ears are intermediate in structure between reptiles and mammals, showing that the evolution of the mammalian ear was gradual.

2 hours ago, B-B said:

If you would care to watch and listen to it, the Lord may show you and help you to understand how the human ear has been designed by the Lord, and is an example of Irreducible Complexity. 

The professor is not God.    And he seems to have a particularly unChristian conception of God, demoting him to a mere "designer."   So it would be unwise for anyone to take him as an expert theologian as well.

 

[The Barbarian]

It's probably puzzling as to how evolutionary theory would contribute to more efficient diesel engines.   But not if you understand how the theory works:

Some engineering problems are almost impossible to solve by design, due to complexity of variable and other issues.   But they can be solved by evolutionary processes.   Engineers have learned to copy Darwinian processes seen in nature, and use them to solve many such problems.   They are called "Genetic Algorithms", and they show that evolution is more efficient than design for many complex problems:

2003-05-19

Genetic Algorithms Optimization of Diesel Engine Emissions and Fuel Efficiency with Air Swirl, EGR,Injection Timing and Multiple Injections 2003-01-1853

https://www.sae.org/publications/technical-papers/content/2003-01-1853/

There's a reason God used it.   He knows best, after all.

 

[The Barbarian]

3 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

The only GIBBERISH BALONEY being spoken are those for Science.

Science uses precise terms for the same reason engineering, philosophy, theology and other disciplines do.    They need precision to do the job.

Science developed in Europe at the time that scholars used Latin and Greek for their writings.   Hence the proliferation of Latin and Greek terms in those fields.   It's no mystery why it happened.     But it is true that familiarity with Latin and/or Greek is very helpful to scholars in all those fields.    We could convert them to Anglo-Saxon, which might help English speakers (but no others).

"Impenetrability of Matter" = "Ungothroughedness of Stuff"

No, I don't see much advantage in that.

 

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian explains why engineers using evolutionary processes, can solve problems too difficult for design:
There's a reason God used it.   He knows best, after all.

3 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

Not at all!

I think He does.   And this is a great demonstration that He does.  We can't solve a lot of problems using design, but copying evolutionary processes, we can solve them.   God's very smart, after all.

4 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

Reality is where the Word of God exist.

In this case, the reality is optimization of diesel engines by evolution is far more effective than trying to design such things.   It's just another reminder of how powerful and wise our Creator is.

 

[Sparks]

4 hours ago, one.opinion said:

This is quite likely. Most people of his day were.

Yes.  Why wouldn't he write about it then?  Answer, no reason.

4 hours ago, one.opinion said:

This is not true. This has already been demonstrated to you. The “favoured races” referred to animal species and subspecies. Humans are virtually absent from this book.

Ken Ham made a speech about this, and referenced Darwin's book showing where he applied it to man and even the future of psychology.  So, yes, virtually absent, but not actually absent.  Besides, we see the outcome of the evolution followers has been to try to erase races.  We know how it turned out.

4 hours ago, one.opinion said:

Regardless, Hitler and The Third Reich committed atrocities because they were evil, not because of Darwin’s books.

While I agree the Nazis were evil and did wrong, you don't seem to understand that they thought they were accelerating evolution by ridding themselves of what they considered inferior races.  They thought they were doing the world a favor.  It's why they killed the Jews, and other races they considered inferior.  Hitler had a list of the order they were going in.