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That is Russian propaganda.

NATO and The Red Cross just took some severely wounded out that will be eventually exchanged for Ukraine's POWs.

Russia spun that account for its own badly informed population. There are still Ukraine soldiers at Marioupol Steel Works fighting.

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17 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

That is Russian propaganda.

NATO and The Red Cross just took some severely wounded out that will be eventually exchanged for Ukraine's POWs.

Russia spun that account for its own badly informed population. There are still Ukraine soldiers at Marioupol Steel Works fighting.

Still fighting?

More like being shelled into oblivion, for the 10 guys left

300+ surrendered, Mariupol is 100% under Russian control, "Reality Check"!

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I watched a bit of it and that voice over certainly sounded like a computer generated voice. 

I'd be skeptical of that source.

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3 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Still fighting?

More like being shelled into oblivion, for the 10 guys left

300+ surrendered, Mariupol is 100% under Russian control, "Reality Check"!

Ahh. Wait and see. Russia needed a bone, so let us watch. A reality check is, what do you do with a pile of rubble and no resources at all? The Kremlin needs a 'win' since the war has cost them so much. It is a nuke shelter protection facility. No one leaves unless they want to.

GUARDIAN report:

"Ukraine has not commented on Russia’s latest update. In his address to the nation late on Tuesday, the president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, said an “evacuation mission” was continuing with help from “the most influential international mediators”. It is also not clear how many remain inside the plant.

Denis Pushilin, the head of the self-proclaimed republic of Donetsk, said on Wednesday that the “commanders of the highest level” were still hiding in the plant. Earlier, Ukrainian officials had said some of its soldiers remained.

The two sides in the war have released practically no details of the agreement that led to the surrender of the troops, who were holed up for weeks in an extensive network of tunnels and bunkers underneath the steelworks.

Ukraine’s deputy defence minister said on Tuesday the soldiers would be swapped in a prisoner exchange, but a number of Russian officials on Wednesday repeated statements made a day earlier by other hardliners that the soldiers should be tried. Pushilin on Wednesday called on an “international tribunal” to be set to decide the soldiers’ “fate”.

“As for war criminals as well as those who are nationalists, their fate, if they laid down their arms, should be decided by the courts,” he said. “If the enemy has laid down arms, then his fate will be decided by the courts. If it is a Nazi criminal, then it’s a tribunal.”

The Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, whose forces have participated in the battle for Mariupol, said the Azov regiment, one of the main forces defending the steelworks, should not be exchanged and “must be punished by law”.

Speaking at an educational forum in Moscow, Kadyrov said Russian forces were facing some “difficulties” in Ukraine as a result of Nato arms deliveries to the country. It was the second statement by a Russian official on Wednesday that acknowledged some of the Russian military failings in Ukraine after Rashid Nurgaliyev, the deputy secretary of the Russian security council, said that “despite all the current difficulties, the special operation will be completed”.

The Azov regiment was formed in 2014 as a volunteer militia to fight Russia-backed forces in east Ukraine, and many of its original members had far-right extremist views. Since then, the unit has been integrated into the Ukrainian national guard and its commanders say it has moved away from its far-right origins.

The Russian Duma is expected to discuss the subject this week and potentially accept a new resolution that would ban prisoner exchanges of Azov fighters. Next week, Russia’s supreme court will also hear an application to designate Ukraine’s Azov regiment as a “terrorist organisation”, opening the way for sentences of up to 20 years for those convicted of involvement.

Russia’s Investigative Committee, which exists to examine major crimes, has already announced plans to interrogate the surrendered soldiers, without indicating whether they would be treated as suspects.

The fate of the forces taken prisoner at Azovstal could further complicate efforts to resume peace negotiations, with both sides blaming each other for a breakdown in talks.

The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, accused Ukraine of a “total lack of desire” to continue the negotiations, while the Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak said talks were on hold ."

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3 hours ago, teddyv said:

I watched a bit of it and that voice over certainly sounded like a computer generated voice. 

I'd be skeptical of that source.

It's posted on several sources, 300+ surrendered, including the Nazi Azov Batallion,"Reality Check"

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1 hour ago, Justin Adams said:

Ahh. Wait and see. Russia needed a bone, so let us watch. A reality check is, what do you do with a pile of rubble and no resources at all? The Kremlin needs a 'win' since the war has cost them so much. It is a nuke shelter protection facility. No one leaves unless they want to.

GUARDIAN report:

"Ukraine has not commented on Russia’s latest update. In his address to the nation late on Tuesday, the president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, said an “evacuation mission” was continuing with help from “the most influential international mediators”. It is also not clear how many remain inside the plant.

Denis Pushilin, the head of the self-proclaimed republic of Donetsk, said on Wednesday that the “commanders of the highest level” were still hiding in the plant. Earlier, Ukrainian officials had said some of its soldiers remained.

The two sides in the war have released practically no details of the agreement that led to the surrender of the troops, who were holed up for weeks in an extensive network of tunnels and bunkers underneath the steelworks.

Ukraine’s deputy defence minister said on Tuesday the soldiers would be swapped in a prisoner exchange, but a number of Russian officials on Wednesday repeated statements made a day earlier by other hardliners that the soldiers should be tried. Pushilin on Wednesday called on an “international tribunal” to be set to decide the soldiers’ “fate”.

“As for war criminals as well as those who are nationalists, their fate, if they laid down their arms, should be decided by the courts,” he said. “If the enemy has laid down arms, then his fate will be decided by the courts. If it is a Nazi criminal, then it’s a tribunal.”

The Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, whose forces have participated in the battle for Mariupol, said the Azov regiment, one of the main forces defending the steelworks, should not be exchanged and “must be punished by law”.

Speaking at an educational forum in Moscow, Kadyrov said Russian forces were facing some “difficulties” in Ukraine as a result of Nato arms deliveries to the country. It was the second statement by a Russian official on Wednesday that acknowledged some of the Russian military failings in Ukraine after Rashid Nurgaliyev, the deputy secretary of the Russian security council, said that “despite all the current difficulties, the special operation will be completed”.

The Azov regiment was formed in 2014 as a volunteer militia to fight Russia-backed forces in east Ukraine, and many of its original members had far-right extremist views. Since then, the unit has been integrated into the Ukrainian national guard and its commanders say it has moved away from its far-right origins.

The Russian Duma is expected to discuss the subject this week and potentially accept a new resolution that would ban prisoner exchanges of Azov fighters. Next week, Russia’s supreme court will also hear an application to designate Ukraine’s Azov regiment as a “terrorist organisation”, opening the way for sentences of up to 20 years for those convicted of involvement.

Russia’s Investigative Committee, which exists to examine major crimes, has already announced plans to interrogate the surrendered soldiers, without indicating whether they would be treated as suspects.

The fate of the forces taken prisoner at Azovstal could further complicate efforts to resume peace negotiations, with both sides blaming each other for a breakdown in talks.

The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, accused Ukraine of a “total lack of desire” to continue the negotiations, while the Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak said talks were on hold ."

Those at Azov steel plant are out of ammo and starving, who you kidding!

Keep watching the western MSM propaganda, they had Ukraine winning the battle in Mariupol 4 weeks ago, now it has Russian flags and a new government, and Russian victory parades in the streets

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2 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Keep watching the western MSM propaganda

I watch live Ukraine news. Direct from Ukraine.

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3 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

I watch live Ukraine news. Direct from Ukraine.

As I said, western MSM propaganda

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The inclusion of "Nazi" tips the hand that this is Russian propoganda. Russia has often used this, alluding back to WW2 when there were Ukrainian sympathizers after the Germans rolled through.

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