truth7t7 Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 18 hours ago, coheir said: This verse reminds of 1 Peter 1:7 And 1 Corinthians 3:13 I agree 1 Cor 3:13, every living human on earth will be tried by the Lord's fire at his return, no human body will escape The righteous will pass through the fire to the eternal kingdom, the wicked will be caught in the fire, (The Lake Of Fire) Jesus Is The Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,462 Content Per Day: 8.07 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, abcdef said: Alright, I'm going to ask you a question that I have asked many. There is a statue in Dan 2, the statue of the gentile nations. The statue shows 4 nations, Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome. The statue shows that the iron begins with the legs, then has feet of iron and clay, then toes of iron and clay. After that, the stone strikes, the statue falls, and is no more. The statue is a timeline concerning the children of Israel and the gentile nations. The question is, Where are we presently in the Dan 2, statue timeline? Are we in the legs period? Toes Period? Or when? Many scholars view the statue as the various major nations through history, beginning with Babylon, and ending with Rome, the crumbly toes. Since I believe that we are either very close to the beginning of the 7 year period known at the Great Tribulation, or even IN IT right now, the "crumbly toes" would be the revived Roman Empire. I base my view on the fact that the 'restrainer' has been removed, per 2 Thess 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,462 Content Per Day: 8.07 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: I agree 1 Cor 3:13, every living human on earth will be tried by the Lord's fire at his return, no human body will escape The righteous will pass through the fire to the eternal kingdom, the wicked will be caught in the fire, (The Lake Of Fire) Jesus Is The Lord There is no LOF when the Lord returns at the Second Advent. That simply ignores all of Rev 20. But, of course, you do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdef Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,405 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/14/1951 Share Posted February 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, FreeGrace said: Many scholars view the statue as the various major nations through history, beginning with Babylon, and ending with Rome, the crumbly toes. Since I believe that we are either very close to the beginning of the 7 year period known at the Great Tribulation, or even IN IT right now, the "crumbly toes" would be the revived Roman Empire. I base my view on the fact that the 'restrainer' has been removed, per 2 Thess 2. So do you think that we are in the toes/clay period right now? Where are we exactly, in the statue timeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,462 Content Per Day: 8.07 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 hours ago, abcdef said: So do you think that we are in the toes/clay period right now? Where are we exactly, in the statue timeline? As noted previously, either just before the GT, or in it. It will become clear as the seal and trumpet judgments occur. At some point, there will be no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, FreeGrace said: There is no LOF when the Lord returns at the Second Advent. That simply ignores all of Rev 20. But, of course, you do that. You ignore the fact that the book of Revelation is written in "Parallel" teachings of same event, not chronologically as dispensationalism falsely teaches that you believe Revelation 16:12-15 & Revelation 20:7-8 is the very same gathering of Nation's to the very same final battle The 7th vial and 7th Trump are parallel teaching of (The End) Revelation 11:18 and Revelation 20:11-15 is the very same final judgement Jesus Is The Lord Edited February 14, 2023 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,462 Content Per Day: 8.07 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: You ignore the fact that the book of Revelation is written in "Parallel" teachings of same event, not chronologically as dispensationalism falsely teaches that you believe [double click failed. Actually, I doesn't matter to me how the 3 sets of judgments play out. Whether all at the same time, or sequentially, or some other way. It makes no difference overall. We know the beginning and we know the ending.] Revelation 16:12-15 & Revelation 20:7-8 is the very same gathering of Nation's to the very same final battle The 7th vial and 7th Trump are parallel teaching of (The End) Revelation 11:18 and Revelation 20:11-15 is the very same final judgement Jesus Is The Lord OK. And yes, Jesus IS the Lord. And King of kings and WILL rule the nations for 1,000 years, just as the Bible SAYS in plain language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, FreeGrace said: (Please) OK. And yes, Jesus IS (Dont) the Lord. And King of (Add) kings and WILL rule (To) the nations for (My) 1,000 years, just as the Bible (Post) SAYS in plain (Be) language. (Considerate, Thanks!) Parenthesis, With Bold Underline Above = Truth7t7 Please don't "Add" to my postings, thanks! The info below was "Added" to Truth7t7 post, that are words of FreeGrace (FreeGrace Info Added) [double click failed. Actually, I doesn't matter to me how the 3 sets of judgments play out. Whether all at the same time, or sequentially, or some other way. It makes no difference overall. We know the beginning and we know the ending.] Edited February 14, 2023 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,462 Content Per Day: 8.07 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: This is my quote, but all messed up with words in parentheses that I didn't post. " (Please) OK. And yes, Jesus IS (Dont) the Lord. And King of (Add)kings and WILL rule (To) the nations for (My) 1,000 years, just as the Bible (Post) SAYS in plain (Be) language. (Considerate, Thanks!)" Why did you fill my post with what wasn't in my post? And what you added makes no sense at all. Parenthesis, With Bold Underline Above = Truth7t7 No kidding. Now, why did you do it? 37 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: Please don't "Add" to my postings, thanks! Funny you should say that, given that is just you did to my post!! 37 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: The info below was "Added" to Truth7t7 post, that are words of FreeGrace (FreeGrace Info Added) [double click failed. Actually, I doesn't matter to me how the 3 sets of judgments play out. Whether all at the same time, or sequentially, or some other way. It makes no difference overall. We know the beginning and we know the ending.] Do you understand what "double click failed" means? It means I wasn't able to properly format my response to your postings. So I bracket my response and use red. So the red words above were not "added" to your post. They were clearly my response to your post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdef Posted February 15, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,405 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/14/1951 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, FreeGrace said: As noted previously, either just before the GT, or in it. It will become clear as the seal and trumpet judgments occur. At some point, there will be no doubt. Again, you have failed to answer my question directly and specifically. Since there are different theories about when the GT begins and ends, the answer that you have given can be interpreted in a variety of ways. Are we in the iron legs period? The feet of iron and clay period? The toes of iron and clay period? Or past the toes? Can you answer specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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