Dead Orthodoxy Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 134 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/22/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, BeyondET said: The baptism of Jesus was a Christian baptism by John the Baptist. Nope you are most certainly wrong here. Christian baptism is in union with Christ's death and resurrection (Romans 6). For Christian baptism to be baptism, it had to have been after his resurrection. This is why Jesus institutes it AFTER his resurrection but BEFORE his ascension. John's baptism of Jesus inaugurates his redemptive three year ministry and is unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Orthodoxy Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 134 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/22/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, BeyondET said: Elijah came for a reason to baptize, it definitely wasn't invalid. Chapter and verse in the NT please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Dead Orthodoxy said: Nope you are most certainly wrong here. Christian baptism is in union with Christ's death and resurrection (Romans 6). For Christian baptism to be baptism, it had to have been after his resurrection. This is why Jesus institutes it AFTER his resurrection but BEFORE his ascension. John's baptism of Jesus inaugurates his redemptive three year ministry and is unique. The deciples were baptizing long before the death and resurrection along with Jesus. John 3 22 After this Jesus and his disciples went into the Judean countryside, and he remained there with them and was baptizing. Edited August 3, 2023 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted August 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Dead Orthodoxy said: Chapter and verse in the NT please? Matthew 11 13For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Orthodoxy Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 134 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/22/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, BeyondET said: Matthew 11 13For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. There is no text about baptism here. Period. You are so wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dead Orthodoxy said: There is no text about baptism here. Period. You are so wrong. Jesus was baptizing and his disciples, it is plainly written in scripture John 3 22 After this Jesus and his disciples went into the Judean countryside, and he remained there with them and was baptizing. Edited August 3, 2023 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Orthodoxy Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 134 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/22/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, BeyondET said: The deciples were baptizing long before the death and resurrection along with Jesus. John 3 22 After this Jesus and his disciples went into the Judean countryside, and he remained there with them and was baptizing. Jesus' disciples participated in JOHN'S BAPTISMAL PRACTICES. Hello! John's baptism is not Christian baptism as stated above. I am starting to question your comprehension skills. The first Christian baptism started on the day of Pentecost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solus Christus Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 316 Content Per Day: 1.09 Reputation: 142 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/23/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted August 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Dead Orthodoxy said: Where do you get the idea baptism is a symbol? Chapter and verse please. The Greek word for symbol is symbolia, AND IT IS NOT FOUND IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. In otherwords, symbol is NOT A BIBLICAL WORD. This is just word salad. Quit making statements about Scripture you can't back up! Lord open the mind of this person and have them not make things up of Scripture that can't be demonstrated. Interesting you don’t address a John The Baptists talk baptism in fire and Spirit oppose to water baptism. Water baptism has always been a sign of repentance.. ugh.. it doesn’t cleanse you, God cleanses you! To believe water is the holy cleansing is like Irish water folk pagan rites that St. Patrick had to address! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dead Orthodoxy said: Jesus' disciples participated in JOHN'S BAPTISMAL PRACTICES. Hello! John's baptism is not Christian baptism as stated above. I am starting to question your comprehension skills. The first Christian baptism started on the day of Pentecost. So you think you have superior comprehension skills? You definitely don't offer much humbleness Hello this verse below has nothing to do with John's baptisms. John 3 22 After this Jesus and his disciples went into the Judean countryside, and he remained there with them and was baptizing. Edited August 3, 2023 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Orthodoxy Posted August 3, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 134 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/22/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Solus Christus said: Interesting you don’t address a John The Baptists talk baptism in fire and Spirit oppose to water baptism. I didn't address JB talk on baptism and spirit and fire, BECAUSE IT WASN'T MENTIONED IN A POST! It is like me saying you didn't address I Cor 6:11 or Eph 5:26-27 in your post either concerning baptism. You didn't comment on it because it was not apart of the conversation. Some pretty weird stuff going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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