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  1. Shalom, JoeCanada. Do you ever read the harmonies of the Gospels, Davies' and Robertson's, for instance? There were FOUR Passovers in total, and the last One was just after the Messiah died. It was the Shabbat ("Sabbath") that was "an high holy day"; that is, an extra Shabbat - a Day of Rest - in the week! It occurred two days before the regular weekly Shabbat. Yeeshuwa` died on the Day of Preparation, when they were killing the sacrificial lambs for the Passover meals. This is why He is called "HaKeves 'Elohiym" - "The Lamb of God!" It can be shown from Scripture that Yeeshuwa` was not born in December: His cousin was born six months before Yeeshuwa` was born: Luke 1:26-38 (KJV) 26 And in the sixth month (of Elizabeth's pregnancy) the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name [was] Mary. 28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, "Hail, [thou that art] highly favoured, the Lord [is] with thee: blessed [art] thou among women!" 29 And when she saw [him], she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. 30 And the angel said unto her, "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end." (This is a restatement of the Davidic Covenant found in 2 Samuel 7 and 1 Chronicles 17.) 34 Then said Mary unto the angel, "How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?" 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, "The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. 36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing shall be impossible!" 38 And Mary said, "Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word." And the angel departed from her. He was more than likely born in Autumn, with the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot). I believe that He was born on the FIRST day of the Feast, and He was circumcised eight days later, the LAST day of the feast. This is why all the Gentile nations who will come against Israel will be required to come to Jerusalem by the New King of Israel, the Messiah of God, the One Anointed by God to be Israel's King, Yeeshuwa`! (See Zechariah 14.) His cousin's father, Z'charyahuw ("Zecharias"), was a priest of the house of Leviy, a Levite, who was also of the course of 'AViyaah ("Abia"): Luke 1:5-25 (KJV) 5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias (Z'kharyahuw), of the course of Abia ('AViyaah): and his wife [was] of the daughters of Aaron ('Aharown), and her name [was] Elisabeth ('ElishaVet). 6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. 7 And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were [now] well stricken in years. 8 And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his course, 9 According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord. 10 And the whole multitude of the people were praying without (outside) at the time of incense. 11 And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense. 12 And when Zacharias saw [him], he was troubled, and fear fell upon him. 13 But the angel said unto him, "Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John. 14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth. 15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. 16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. 17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord." 18 And Zacharias said unto the angel, "Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years." 19 And the angel answering said unto him, "I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. 20 And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season." 21 And the people waited for Zacharias, and marvelled that he tarried so long in the temple. 22 And when he came out, he could not speak unto them: and they perceived that he had seen a vision in the temple: for he beckoned unto them, and remained speechless. 23 And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house. 24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying, 25 "Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on [me], to take away my reproach." The course of 'AViyaah (אֲבִיָה ==> "Abia" or "Abijah" or "Aviyah") was for a week twice a year in the rotation of 24 courses, and the Jewish year began with the new moon of the first month after the spring equinox. Passover began on the 14th day of the first month, and lasted for 7 days (8 for orthodox Jews). Thus, he would serve in the eighth shabbat to the nineth shabbat and then again in the 33rd shabbat to the 34 shabbat in each year. This fluctuates in the Gregorian calendar, but not in the Hebrew calendar. It's always in the sixth week after Pesach (Passover) and in the seventh week after Sukkot (Tabernacles). Based upon the timing of GaVriy'eel appearing to Z'kharyahuw and then to Miryam ("Mary") six months after ElishaVet's conception, Yochanan the Immerser was probably born in the first month, Nisan. Six months later, in Tishrei the seventh month, Yeeshuwa` ("Jesus") would have been born. This puts His birth near Sukkot, when Yeeshuwa` "dwelt (tabernacled) with us" (John 1:14). Eight days later, He was circumcised. Yeeshuwa` started His "ministry" (actually, His "offer of the Kingdom" to the children of Israel, beginning with His own tribe, Yhudah or Judah, the Jews, just as David did before Him, see 1 Kings 2:11), when He was about 30 years old (Luke 3:23), probably on or around His birthday. Half a year later, He celebrated the FIRST of the four Pesach celebrations (Passover). He was followed by not only the Twelve, but hundreds of others throughout His offer of the Kingdom. He demonstrated many infallible proofs through the power of His Father, performing miracles to prove that He was not only "the Son of God" (fulfilling the Davidic Covenant in part), but to also provide partial fulfillment of the first half of the Seventieth Seven of Daniel 9. It was the MESSIAH who is the "he" of Daniel 9:27! Now, I know that this is a LOT of information to dump on a person all at once, but you must understand that I've been studying this for DECADES!
  2. Shalom, choir loft. Keep on hollerin,' bro. You're way off base, and one simply needs to read the Scriptures as they were intended to be read. You should know better.
  3. Shabbat shalom, everyone. Two words that one should be aware of. 1) Satan, and 2) angels. The word "saataan" (שָׂטָן) is a HEBREW word that means "enemy," and in particular, it is a "courtroom enemy." All names in the Bible mean something. This word was transliterated into Greek as "satanas" (σατανᾶς), adding the "-as" proper masculine noun ending. So, when we read the following, Mark 8:33 (KJV) 33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, "Get thee behind me,Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men!" Yeeshuwa` ("Jesus") was NOT calling "Kefa" ("Peter") the being with the NAME of "Satan!" He was calling him an "enemy," because his response was contrary to the will of God for Yeeshuwa`s near future! The word "angel" is an ENGLISH transliteration of the GREEK word "aggelos" (ἄγγελος), and the word means "a messenger." (The gamma-gamma consonant blend is the "ng" sound in Greek.) It is a translation of the Hebrew word "mal'akh" (מַלְאַךְ), which also means "a messenger." An interesting fact is that this Hebrew word is used three times in the book of Job (1:14; 4:18; and 33:23), and NONE of them are about Satan or any supernatural messenger! The first verse is about a "messenger" who comes to tell Job about the loss of his oxen and donkeys! The second probably more refers to the priesthood who could be braggadocious. And, the third is about a witness to the uprightness of a person, to turn away God's wrath against the person. HaSatan (The Enemy) was there presenting his case to God against IyoV ("Job"), but he was NOT in "heaven." He was where the "sons of God," human beings, could go before God - the Altar of Sacrifice. That is where God has met with men in the past! Many of the "messengers," both in the Old Testament and in the New Testament, were HUMAN messengers, although there were some who were supernatural messengers from God. Some read too much into these "messengers," and we have let this view get WAY out of hand! Even in Hebrews 13:2, consider seeing this passage as HUMAN messengers. Hebrews 13:2 (KJV) 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby somehave entertained angels unawares. It's not something "spooky and mysterious"; this passage could refer to ANYONE whose identity is not known! These "angels" are simply "messengers," whether supernatural or HUMAN! Not only do we have the account of the "three men" coming to Avraham, but we also have the "great woman of Shunem" who had fed and boarded a prophet of God before she and her husband knew that he was a prophet of God! And, what is a "prophet" if not a "messenger of God" sent to give God's message to the children of Israel? The same can be said for 1 Peter 1:10-12: 1 Peter 1:3-21 (KJV) 3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven (in the sky) for you, 5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation (rescue) ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: 7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see [him] not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 Receiving the end of your faith, [even] the salvation of [your] souls. 10 Of which salvation THE PROPHETS HAVE ENQUIRED AND SEARCHED DILIGENTLY, who prophesied of the grace [that should come] unto you: 11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; WHICH THINGS THE ANGELS DESIRE TO LOOK INTO. 13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: 15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, "Be ye holy; for I am holy." 17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning [here] in fear: 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, [as] silver and gold, from your vain conversation [received] by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. And, this passage begs the understanding of two more words that need to be better known: "heaven" (ouranos, οὐρανός) means the "sky," from which the Messiah will return, and "salvation" (sooteeria, σωτηρία) means "rescue" or "deliverance" and speaks of that rescue of His people that will happen when the Messiah returns to earth! Just some things to consider....
  4. Shalom, @DoaK1992 No, since you didn't act on your feelings, you only have been introduced to a weakness you might have. It's only sin if you act upon it, and go against what you know to be wrong. We all have tendencies toward something that could lead us into sin. Everyone has a weakness toward something that could be considered a temptation for him or her. Some are prone to like alchohol; others are prone to enjoy the feelings that certain drugs induce; still, others might be tempted by the look of a person of the opposite gender; others by the look of the same gender. We just have to guard our hearts and give their control to the Master, who has shown us how He dealt with His own temptations. Hang in there. Just remember that we are ALL sinners - those who have crossed the line in one way or another and have done something against God's Law or have neglected to follow something in God's Law, but God has given a way for His Law for us to be completed by His Son in dying upon the cross on our behalf. He provided the way through His Holy Spirit to give us the power to resist the temptations and minimize the errors in our lives, while He already took care of the RESULTS of those errors through His Son's death! One should also take to heart Yeeshuwa`s ("Jesus' ") words: Matthew 5:28 (KJV) 28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." This can be extrapolated to the other gender, as well. For the SAME GOD who said, Exodus 20:14 (KJV) 14 "Thou shalt not commit adultery." also said, Leviticus 20:13 (KJV) 13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." There are NOT "many laws"; there are MANY COMMANDMENTS (613, not just 10) within the ONE Law of God. We just need to come humbly to God and ask Him for Yeeshuwa`s sacrifice to be applied to our lives: Yeeshuwa` ("Jesus") said, Luke 18:9-14 (KJV) 9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, "'God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men [are], extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.' 13 "And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as [his] eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, "'God be merciful to me a sinner.' 14 "I tell you, this man went down to his house justified [rather] than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." We exchange places with God through the sacrifice of His Son: 2 Corinthians 5:21 (KJV) 21 For he (God) hath made him (the Messiah or Christ) to be "sin" for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made "the righteousness of God" in him (in the Messiah or in the Christ). This is the transfer! Yeeshuwa` (Jesus) BECAME "our sin" on the cross, and God the Father poured out His judgment against Him as "our sin!" Now, we CAN BECOME "God's Righteousness" found in His Messiah or in His Christ! So, when God looks at you (after you've made Christ's soul a sacrifice for sin), He no longer sees your sins; He sees HIS OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS, instead! When that application of Christ's sacrifice has been applied to your life, then you become a NEW creation (2 Corinthians 5:17)! You are "born again (John 3:3-8)!" All you need to do is ASK HIM to apply it to you! Isaiah 53:10-11 (KJV) 10 Yet it pleased the LORD (God the Father) to bruise him; HE hath put [him, the Messiah] to grief: when thou shalt make his (the Messiah's) soul an offering for sin, HE (God) shall see [HIS (God's)] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his (the Messiah's) soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. This is how God JUSTIFIES you, and He DECLARES you "His own righteousness!" This is how you are "BORN AGAIN!"
  5. Shalom, Slibhin. Sorry, but being a "Jewish Christian" only SEEMS like an "oxymoron" TO YOU! And, what will you say when Yeeshuwa` (יֵשׁוּעַ) returns and you realize that He IS G-D'S ULTIMATE MESSIAH after all, WHOM YOU REJECTED?! Choose your words more carefully. You DON'T KNOW what you don't know, and G-D has a way of keeping the Jews BLIND to their Messiah until it is their time to see G-D'S POWER REVEALED!
  6. Shalom, @NConly. Sorry, but your statement is not necessarily correct. There ARE some situations where the life of the child may be sacrificed for the life of the mother. A couple may have another child, but not if the mother dies, and the child will not have the love of the mother's care if the child survives the mother's death. Sometimes, the doctors may rule that it's an "either ... or" situation, where it comes down to the life of one must be sacrificed for the life of the other. On the other hand, it should NOT be required by law to make such decisions! Nor should it lie in the hands of the doctor! It must be the will of the parents, preferably under the guidance of the Ruwach haQodesh Elohiym (the Holy Spirit of God), to make this decision, and the decision should NOT be made lightly! Occasionally, it may be the choice of BOTH parents to sacrifice the mother's life for the sake of the child's life. Sometimes, it may be the will of the parents to try again in the future, and say REVERENTLY AND WITH MUCH SORROW AND REGRET to say good-bye to the child and end the life of the child, who would not make it through the birth anyway! Again, this should NOT be left up to the courts to decide! Each situation is DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE! Only by much prayer and seeking God's will should such a decision be made! However, in ALL cases, the life of the child should be VALUED and RESPECTED as a gift from God that should NEVER BE TAKEN LIGHTLY! Just some things to think about BEFORE we make this a court matter!
  7. Shalom, Mr. M. I just did. See my response to enoob57. I dunno. I guess I thought I heard a leaning toward that persuasion. Sorry if I got it wrong. No, I just know that several Christians apply this to the present instead of to the future, as though the "new heavens and a new earth" were symbolic or allegorical. Again, I'm sorry if I read you wrongly. Just know, however, that this "New heavens (skies) and new earth" won't happen until haSatan has been chained up for a thousand years and is once again released. This is what the "Millennium" actually is. The Kingdom of the Messiah over Israel will last FOREVER! And, we will be a part of that Kingdom, for why would we be separated from the Messiah who will be reigning here on the new earth FOREVER?! Furthermore, we shall REIGN WITH HIM, NOT JUST FOR A THOUSAND YEARS, BUT FOREVER!
  8. Shalom, enoob. I'll answer your question with a question: Why would we "take all - total - of all knowledge and remove it?" There are GOOD THINGS that God has revealed through His thinkers - like Sir Isaac Newton, for instance. Not all knowledge is bad! However, the knowledge that one acquires must be tempered with godly WISDOM! And, "the FOOL has said in his heart, 'There is no God'!" In computers, for instance, we have certain hacks that people can learn and use. They can be used to write viruses and worms and other malware to steal from individuals or destroy systems, OR they can be used to PROTECT people through anti-virus programs! The ONLY ONE on whom we need to rely is the ONLY ONE "not of this world," and that is YHWH GOD! However, HE has made the world and will not allow it to be defeated by anyone, least of all by haSatan! He will form the world out of the Fire, just as He formed this one, out of the Flood! And, we will LIVE FOREVER upon the New Earth! The New Jerusalem will be our "house" and the New Earth will be our "backyard!" We were not created to "live in Heaven." We were created to live upon the earth! Furthermore, the REAL "heaven" is the air we breathe! It's where the birds fly, and where the weather is formed! When Yeeshuwa` comes again, we don't go "TO Heaven!" We go THROUGH the heavens - through the skies - and land with Him in the Middle East! He will be zealous for His people! And, He will not only win them back, but He will TAKE back the Land from anyone laying claim to it unlawfully! He will do battle with His enemies, and He will finally reign in Jerusalem on His Father's behalf!
  9. Shalom, R. Hartono. Ah, but that is NOT "the end!" It was only a temporary set-back! The MESSIAH - the One ANOINTED by God to be the ULTIMATE King of Israel - is RETURNING!
  10. Shalom, Mr. M. Ah! But 1 Corinthians 15:28 follows 1 Corinthians 15:20-27! Keep it in its context, and this verse is talking about IN THE FUTURE! 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 (KJV) 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits (singular) of them that slept. 21 For since by man [came] death, by man [came] also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: (0) Christ the firstfruits (singular); (1) afterward they that are Christ's at his (Christ's) coming. 24 (2) Then [cometh] the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he (Christ) must reign, till he (God) hath put all enemies under his (Christ's) feet. 26 The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death. 27 For he "hath put ALL THINGS under his feet" (Psalm 8:6). (But when he saith "all things are put under [him," it is] manifest that "he" [God] is excepted, which did "put all things under him [Christ].") 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him (Christ), THEN shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (God) that put all things under him (Christ), that God may be all in all. Paul quoted Psalm 8:6; here's the psalm in its entirety: Psalm 8:1-9 (KJV) 1 [[To the chief Musician upon Gittith (a lyre from Gath), A Psalm of David.]] O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens. 2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger. 3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all [things] under his feet: 7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; 8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, [and whatsoever] passeth through the paths of the seas. 9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! proving that this psalm is about the Messiah. Thus, Paul was talking about DURING the Messiah's initial reign after the time of the First Resurrection "at His coming" and before "the end," which is about the Second Resurrection associated with the Great White Throne Judgment, AND AFTER the GWTJ. This is what Revelation 20 called the "Thousand Years" or in Latin, the "Millennium."
  11. Shalom, Vine Abider. The spirit (breath) is separated from the soul (the air-breathing-creature) whenever a person DIES! They are united again in the RESURRECTION, after the soul (air-breathing creature) is re-created as God remembers him or her. Then, we (our bodies) are transformed into immortal, incorruptible, gloriously bright, powerful, and quite PHYSICAL bodies (still just us)! The word "spirit-ual," as Paul used it in 1 Cor. 15, is contrasted with "natural" (or "soul-ual") And, just as "soul-ual" means "breathing" as in an "air-breathing body" or a "breathing body," the word "spiritual" means "BLASTING," as in an "AIR-BLASTING body," BLASTING LIKE A WIND! This is REALLY important to understand, because "spiritual" does NOT mean "immaterial" or "other worldly!" You're not wrong about "what we need to do on a daily basis," but the TERMINOLOGY is wrong.
  12. Shalom, R. Hartono. No, but Y'howshuwa` ("Joshua") was TO ERADICATE THE CANAANITES COMPLETELY from the Land! They failed to accomplish that mission, and they struggled with them for thousands of years after! Joshua 23:1-16 1 And it came to pass a long time after that the LORD had given rest unto Israel from all their enemies round about, that Joshua waxed old [and] stricken in age. 2 And Joshua called for all Israel, [and] for their elders, and for their heads, and for their judges, and for their officers, and said unto them, "I am old [and] stricken in age: 3 And ye have seen all that the LORD your God hath done unto all these nations because of you; for the LORD your God [is] he that hath fought for you. 4 Behold, I have divided unto you by lot these nations that remain, to be an inheritance for your tribes, from Jordan, with all the nations that I have cut off, even unto the great sea westward. 5 And the LORD your God, he shall expel them from before you, and drive them from out of your sight; and ye shall possess their land, as the LORD your God hath promised unto you. 6 "Be ye therefore very courageous to keep and to do all that is written in the book of the law of Moses, that ye turn not aside therefrom [to] the right hand or [to] the left; 7 That ye come not among these nations, these that remain among you; neither make mention of the name of their gods, nor cause to swear [by them], neither serve them, nor bow yourselves unto them: 8 "But cleave unto the LORD your God, as ye have done unto this day. 9 For the LORD hath driven out from before you great nations and strong: but [as for] you, no man hath been able to stand before you unto this day. 10 One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he [it is] that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you. 11 "Take good heed therefore unto yourselves, that ye love the LORD your God. 12 Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, [even] these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you: 13 Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out [any of] these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you. 14 "And, behold, this day I [am] going the way of all the earth: and ye know in all your hearts and in all your souls, that not one thing hath failed of all the good things which the LORD your God spake concerning you; all are come to pass unto you, [and] not one thing hath failed thereof. 15 Therefore it shall come to pass, [that] as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you. 16 When ye have transgressed the covenant of the LORD your God, which he commanded you, and have gone and served other gods, and bowed yourselves to them; then shall the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and ye shall perish quickly from off the good land which he hath given unto you." Sha'uwl and David struggled with the various branches of those who were left in the Land, and when the children of Israel, both the Northern Kingdom and the Southern Kingdom, were punished and sent out of the Land, the Goyim ("Gentiles") swarmed back into the Land to claim it for themselves once again! The Maashiyach ("Messiah," "Christ") of God, Yeeshuwa`, will be the Solution when He returns to aid the children of Israel who come back into the Land. He will FINISH THE JOB! Ezekiel 20:39-44 (KJV) 39 "As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; "'Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter [also], if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols. 40 "'For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel,' saith the Lord GOD, 'there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things. 41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen. 42 And ye shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I shall bring you into the land of Israel, into the country [for] the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your fathers. 43 And there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein ye have been defiled; and ye shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for all your evils that ye have committed. 44 And ye shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I have wrought with you for my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel,' saith the Lord GOD." Ezekiel 37:21-28 (KJV) 21 "And say unto them, "'Thus saith the Lord GOD; "'"Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all: 23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. 24 "'"And David my servant [shall be] king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, [even] they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David [shall be] their prince for ever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore."'"
  13. Shalom, Slibhin. Nonsense. I feel for all living things because it was G-D who gave them life! I cannot; therefore, I respect all things that God made alive. However, I respect them with the varying degree to which they are to be respected. Mankind is MOST PRECIOUS of all G-D'S creation! Do you ever think about the lives of the animals that were slain in the service of the Tabernacle and the Temple? A lamb of the first year, for instance, is NOT to be taken lightly. First, it was a PURE animal, without spot or blemish. If there were any children in a household, you KNOW how children gravitate to young animals! The lamb or kid, being with the family for at least a year, soon take on the status as a PET or a precious friend! To have to give them up as a sacrifice does not come easily to a romantic, sympathetic child! I do not hunt, unless it is out of need. When I fish, I practice catch-and-release. I respect the fact that G-D gave that animal life, and I do not take that life lightly, and above all, I give G-D thanks for each one He provides, if I must make a meal of what I caught. That's what I've been saying! But the common civilians DON'T HAVE A SAY in what Hamas does! That's why I said they were two different peoples! I AGREE with your assessment of the "terrorist thugs!" You're forgetting a MAJOR part of Middle Eastern history! When the Arab nations learned of the Balfour Declaration and the British mandate to colonize the Land with the Jews from all over Europe and Asia, they began to put their people (often against their will) INSIDE the Land, as though "they had always been there." At the time, NOBODY wanted to live in the Land because it had been SALTED by the Romans many years earlier ON PURPOSE to destroy the Land's usefulness! It was a DESERT WASTELAND when people started to come back to the Land. But, it was the JEWS who washed the Land with many buckets of water until it was able to support plants once again. The Jews also planted many trees and undergrowth to help the Land recover! And, you and your compatriots haven't lived in the Land so long that you know PERSONALLY what happened in the Land prior to the Balfour Declaration! You WEREN'T THERE, either! We ALL have to learn from historical accounts, and yes, Slibhin, we can READ! Furthermore, we are UNAFRAID to read the B'rit Chadashah, because we haven't been POISONED to its reading as have OTHERS! So? I use the King James Version because it is well known in the United States, as it has been used for over 400 years! I also use it because, here in the United States, it is in the Public Domain, and may be quoted and used in apologetical arguments without copyright infringement. Another reason I use it is because it uses the OLD English pronouns of "thee," "thou," "thy," "thine," and "ye." These pronouns differentiate between the singular and the plural in the second-person pronouns. "Thou" is second-person, singular, subjective. "Thee" is second-person, singular, objective. "Thy" is second-person, singular, possessive adjective. "Thine" is second-person, singular, possessive nominative/objective. "Ye" is second-person, plural, subjective. "You" is second-person, plural, objective. "Your" is second-person, plural, possessive adjective. "Yours" is second-person, plural, possessive nominative/objective. This information is LOST in modern English versions! If one will find this out at all, one will either have to find it in the context, or one will have to check the Hebrew or Greek. For my personal Bible study, I prefer to go to the original languages and read it there. One day, if G-D permits, I would like to translate my own version of the Bible, both the Tanakh and the B'rit Chadashah. See, here is ANOTHER English version of the Tanakh! Why do you prefer this version over the other English versions? Wouldn't it be better to read it like THIS? 1מִי־זֶ֣ה ׀ בָּ֣א מֵאֱדֹ֗ום חֲמ֤וּץ בְּגָדִים֙ מִבָּצְרָ֔ה זֶ֚ה הָד֣וּר בִּלְבוּשֹׁ֔ו צֹעֶ֖ה בְּרֹ֣ב כֹּחֹ֑ו אֲנִ֛י מְדַבֵּ֥ר בִּצְדָקָ֖ה רַ֥ב לְהֹושִֽׁיעַ׃ 2מַדּ֥וּעַ אָדֹ֖ם לִלְבוּשֶׁ֑ךָ וּבְגָדֶ֖יךָ כְּדֹרֵ֥ךְ בְּגַֽת׃ 3פּוּרָ֣ה ׀ דָּרַ֣כְתִּי לְבַדִּ֗י וּמֵֽעַמִּים֙ אֵֽין־אִ֣ישׁ אִתִּ֔י וְאֶדְרְכֵ֣ם בְּאַפִּ֔י וְאֶרְמְסֵ֖ם בַּחֲמָתִ֑י וְיֵ֤ז נִצְחָם֙ עַל־בְּגָדַ֔י וְכָל־מַלְבּוּשַׁ֖י אֶגְאָֽלְתִּי׃ 4כִּ֛י יֹ֥ום נָקָ֖ם בְּלִבִּ֑י וּשְׁנַ֥ת גְּאוּלַ֖י בָּֽאָה׃ 5וְאַבִּיט֙ וְאֵ֣ין עֹזֵ֔ר וְאֶשְׁתֹּומֵ֖ם וְאֵ֣ין סֹומֵ֑ךְ וַתֹּ֤ושַֽׁע לִי֙ זְרֹעִ֔י וַחֲמָתִ֖י הִ֥יא סְמָכָֽתְנִי׃ 6וְאָב֤וּס עַמִּים֙ בְּאַפִּ֔י וַאֲשַׁכְּרֵ֖ם בַּחֲמָתִ֑י וְאֹורִ֥יד לָאָ֖רֶץ נִצְחָֽם׃ ס 7חַֽסְדֵ֨י יְהוָ֤ה ׀ אַזְכִּיר֙ תְּהִלֹּ֣ת יְהוָ֔ה כְּעַ֕ל כֹּ֥ל אֲשֶׁר־גְּמָלָ֖נוּ יְהוָ֑ה וְרַב־טוּב֙ לְבֵ֣ית יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֲשֶׁר־גְּמָלָ֥ם כְּֽרַחֲמָ֖יו וּכְרֹ֥ב חֲסָדָֽיו׃ 8וַיֹּ֙אמֶר֙ אַךְ־עַמִּ֣י הֵ֔מָּה בָּנִ֖ים לֹ֣א יְשַׁקֵּ֑רוּ וַיְהִ֥י לָהֶ֖ם לְמֹושִֽׁיעַ׃ 9בְּֽכָל־צָרָתָ֣ם ׀ [לֹא כ] (לֹ֣ו ק) צָ֗ר וּמַלְאַ֤ךְ פָּנָיו֙ הֹֽושִׁיעָ֔ם בְּאַהֲבָתֹ֥ו וּבְחֶמְלָתֹ֖ו ה֣וּא גְאָלָ֑ם וַֽיְנַטְּלֵ֥ם וַֽיְנַשְּׂאֵ֖ם כָּל־יְמֵ֥י עֹולָֽם׃ 10וְהֵ֛מָּה מָר֥וּ וְעִצְּב֖וּ אֶת־ר֣וּחַ קָדְשֹׁ֑ו וַיֵּהָפֵ֥ךְ לָהֶ֛ם לְאֹויֵ֖ב ה֥וּא נִלְחַם־בָּֽם׃ 11וַיִּזְכֹּ֥ר יְמֵֽי־עֹולָ֖ם מֹשֶׁ֣ה עַמֹּ֑ו אַיֵּ֣ה ׀ הַֽמַּעֲלֵ֣ם מִיָּ֗ם אֵ֚ת רֹעֵ֣י צֹאנֹ֔ו אַיֵּ֛ה הַשָּׂ֥ם בְּקִרְבֹּ֖ו אֶת־ר֥וּחַ קָדְשֹֽׁו׃ 12מֹולִיךְ֙ לִימִ֣ין מֹשֶׁ֔ה זְרֹ֖ועַ תִּפְאַרְתֹּ֑ו בֹּ֤וקֵֽעַ מַ֙יִם֙ מִפְּנֵיהֶ֔ם לַעֲשֹׂ֥ות לֹ֖ו שֵׁ֥ם עֹולָֽם׃ 13מֹולִיכָ֖ם בַּתְּהֹמֹ֑ות כַּסּ֥וּס בַּמִּדְבָּ֖ר לֹ֥א יִכָּשֵֽׁלוּ׃ 14כַּבְּהֵמָה֙ בַּבִּקְעָ֣ה תֵרֵ֔ד ר֥וּחַ יְהוָ֖ה תְּנִיחֶ֑נּוּ כֵּ֚ן נִהַ֣גְתָּ עַמְּךָ֔ לַעֲשֹׂ֥ות לְךָ֖ שֵׁ֥ם תִּפְאָֽרֶת׃ 15הַבֵּ֤ט מִשָּׁמַ֙יִם֙ וּרְאֵ֔ה מִזְּבֻ֥ל קָדְשְׁךָ֖ וְתִפְאַרְתֶּ֑ךָ אַיֵּ֤ה קִנְאָֽתְךָ֙ וּגְב֣וּרֹתֶ֔ךָ הֲמֹ֥ון מֵעֶ֛יךָ וְֽרַחֲמֶ֖יךָ אֵלַ֥י הִתְאַפָּֽקוּ׃ 16כִּֽי־אַתָּ֣ה אָבִ֔ינוּ כִּ֤י אַבְרָהָם֙ לֹ֣א יְדָעָ֔נוּ וְיִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל לֹ֣א יַכִּירָ֑נוּ אַתָּ֤ה יְהוָה֙ אָבִ֔ינוּ גֹּאֲלֵ֥נוּ מֵֽעֹולָ֖ם שְׁמֶֽךָ׃ 17לָ֣מָּה תַתְעֵ֤נוּ יְהוָה֙ מִדְּרָכֶ֔יךָ תַּקְשִׁ֥יחַ לִבֵּ֖נוּ מִיִּרְאָתֶ֑ךָ וּב לְמַ֣עַן עֲבָדֶ֔יךָ שִׁבְטֵ֖י נַחֲלָתֶֽךָ׃ 18לַמִּצְעָ֕ר יָרְשׁ֖וּ עַם־קָדְשֶׁ֑ךָ צָרֵ֕ינוּ בֹּוסְס֖וּ מִקְדָּשֶֽׁךָ׃ 19הָיִ֗ינוּ מֵֽעֹולָם֙ לֹֽא־מָשַׁ֣לְתָּ בָּ֔ם לֹֽא־נִקְרָ֥א שִׁמְךָ֖ עֲלֵיהֶ֑ם (Again, please forgive the line justification. The whole thing should be right justified.) Anyway, look at who is doing the work on G-D'S behalf! זְרֹעִי "My ARM!" That is a reference to the Maashiyach! This is not just talking about ANCIENT 'Edowm!" Herod the Great was an Idumean ("Edomite")! This grandson of Avraham, another son of Yitschaq (Isaac), had children that also lived in the Middle East, southeast of the Dead Sea, in the land named by his nickname, "'Edowm" - "Red!" And, he was so named because of the RED soup/pottage for which he traded his birthright! When the Kingdom of Jordan was created, they still lived there! Their destruction as prophesied has NOT YET HAPPENED! You might find it interesting that this verse is quoted in part in Revelation 21:4. HOWEVER, this peace that the Maashiyach will bring will TAKE TIME to realize! It's not something that He will make happen overnight! Revelation 20:1-6 tells us that it will take a THOUSAND YEARS to accomplish! Rav Sha'uwl told us in his first letter to those gathered in the synagogue at Korinth, Asia Minor, that the Maashiyach will subdue all of His enemies: 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 (KJV) 20 But now is Christ (Messiah) risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man [came] death, by man [came] also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ (in the Messiah) shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: (0) Christ (the Messiah) the firstfruits; (1) afterward they that are Christ's (those who belong to the Messiah) at his coming. 24 (2) Then [cometh] the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. (But when he saith "all things are put under [him," it is] manifest that "he" is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. Then, once the whole world is under His authority, He will turn the Global Empire over to His Father, G-D, that G-D may be all in all. Then, the Maashiyach will go on reigning just over the house of Israel forever, as predicted in the Davidic Covenant of 2 Samuel 7 and 1 Chronicles 17. Oh, and btw, "subduing" doesn't ALWAYS mean "violently!" Sometimes, a nation can be "subdued" by THEIR SURRENDER! Sometimes, a nation can be "subdued" by their willingness to SUBMIT! If you believe that, you're falling for the SAME MISUNDERSTANDING! You THINK we're promoting "an evenagelical revenge fantasy," but G-D said "Vengeance is MINE! I will repay!" And, that is why we EVANGELIZE! That's a Greek word meaning "to spread the GOOD NEWS!" "EUAGGELION!" And, that is also why Sha'uwl said it would TAKE TIME! Yes, I know about Mikhah ("Micah") 6:7-8. I agree! However, He also gave people FREE WILL! What if they WON'T come to Him "genuinely sorry for their sin?" He MUST judge the world! See? You have the WRONG PICTURE about us! Therefore, your argument is a STRAW MAN! You can EASILY knock down a false image of what you THINK is wrong, but isn't really there! I agree! Sha'uwl haMelekh was an anointed one! So was David and Shlomoh and all the kings of Shlomoh's sons! The priests of G-D were anointed ones! Many of the prophets were anointed ones! And, yes, anyone that G-D picked for a particular service or position was His anointed one! Moreover, the items in the Tabernacle (Tent) and in the Temple were so anointed! But, you MUST know that THE Maashiyach of prophecy is the ULTIMATE Anointed One! The One chosen by G-D to be the ETERNAL KING of Israel, in fulfillment of G-D'S covenant to David!
  14. Shalom, Slibhin. Well, what would YOU prefer to call it? It IS their cause! Hamas is NOT the same as the Palestinians who dwell in Gaza! They ARE two separate peoples! The innocents don't normally live and die by the choices that Hamas makes, except when Hamas USES them as human shields! I really DON'T know what is setting you off about this! Not if you come from a family of farmers, no! Not when one's family's income and livelihood depends on the next harvest! Are you so sure? Isaiah 63:1-6 (KJV) 1 "Who [is] this that cometh from Edom (מֵאֱדוֹם), with dyed garments from Bozrah (מִבָּצְרָה)? this [that is] glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength?" "I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save (רַב לְהוֹשִׁיעַ׃)." 2 "Wherefore [art thou] red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?" 3 "I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people [there was] none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment. 4 For THE DAY OF VENGEANCE [is] in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come. 5 And I looked, and [there was] none to help; and I wondered that [there was] none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me. 6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth!" If there's one thing we've learned here in the United States, it's that PEACE COMES WITH A PRICE! Yes, the Messiah will bring peace, but not without MAKING that peace possible!
  15. Shalom, Charlie744. I'm going to keep this brief so my text editor works for a while. It happens at His Second Coming. Do you see the Messiah reigning anywhere on earth right now? His Kingdom will be a LITERAL Kingdom, not just some "spiritual" thing. (MY! How I hate the misuse of that word "spiritual!")
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