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  1. Who confirms a covenant with many?

    Shalom, WilliamL, and Happy Chanukkah to you, as well! Chag Sameach! Of course, you're right. It's not the "proof," per se. The proof is in the pronouns (which I cited) and in the fact that the Temple is NEVER referred to as THEIR "house!" It was "GOD'S house!" It was ALWAYS known as "beyt Elohiym." The "house of God!" OR, as Yeshua` frequently called it, "My FATHER'S House!" (Luke 2:49; John 2:16).
  2. Who confirms a covenant with many?

    Shalom, Uriah, and welcome! And, if you can receive it, Happy Chanukkah! Chag Sameach! I know that this is a common opinion, but the fact has been stated above that this New Covenant is an ETERNAL Covenant. It is not limited to seven years at all. On the other hand, I DO agree with you that Yeshua` the Messiah is the One seen confirming the covenant in the passage of Daniel 9. I've been trying to show that the Hebrew grammar and the English grammar agree that this could NOT refer to the "prince that shall come" in verse 26. Anyone who wants to be able to use Daniel 9 to describe the "covenant that the antichrist breaks," needs this antecedent. HOWEVER, the antecedent cannot be the object of a preposition (in English) or the second noun in a noun construct state (in Hebrew). The antecedent is the "Messiah" in verse 26. Therefore, it is the MESSIAH who "shall confirm a covenant with many for one seven ('week'): and in the midst of the seven ('week') He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation (gift) to cease." (Hebrews 10:8-18.) And it is He who "for the overspreading of abominations (Matthew 23:1-37) "shall make it desolate" (Matthew 23:38), "even until the consummation" (Matthew 23:39), "and that determined" ("Jacob's trouble" or the "tribulation") "shall be poured upon the desolate" (the children of Israel, those left "desolate").
  3. Revelation 3:10

    Shalom, all. Wow. Lots have been said, and lots have been rebutted, but I'm sorry. Revelation 3:10 is NOT in our future. One should consider to whom Yeshua` is talking and WHEN He addressed them. 3:10 is a portion of 3:7-13, the brief letter to the Philadelphians: Revelation 3:7-13 7 And to the angel [messenger] of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; 8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship [bow down] before thy [singular, therefore the MESSENGER'S] feet, and to know that I have loved thee [the MESSENGER]. 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. KJV Once again, it's important to understand that in both the Greek and in the KJV, this passage is written to a SINGULAR person, not a group of people! He's not saying these things to a congregation; He's saying them to the MESSENGER - the LEADER - the PASTOR - of this church, this ekkleesia kuriokon! Wikipedia has this to say about the city: So this church no longer exists in the same way as when the letters were dictated to Yochannan (John). It was a LITERAL city and a LITERAL called-out group of believers belonging to the Lord, Messiah Yeshua`. It doesn't represent some time period within the last 2,000 years, nor does it give us information that is future to us! The prophecies for this particular called out group of believers were fulfilled soon after they were written and BEFORE the city's demise - BEFORE the "hour of testing" that came upon the whole world; that is, the whole Roman Empire, the known world at that time.
  4. An unprecedented event: would you join this?

    Shalom, all. Now that it's settled down a little, I'd like to repeat this post and put an exclamation to it. How can you expect the Lord to return any time soon if we don't herald the good news about the Kingdom?!
  5. An unprecedented event: would you join this?

    Shalom, listener24. Sure. You had said on 11/26/17, 'Last, I'm not asking for "me", because the Lord's prayer is plural. I'm asking for us, as the prayer says, because Jesus' Return will be a collective event.' Did you mean, "the Return of Jesus will be an event when He collects us (catches us away)," or did you mean, "the Return of Jesus will be an all-inclusive event?"
  6. The Day of the Lord's Vengeance and Wrath

    Shalom, Keras. Why do you have to correct yourself? You quoted Zechariah 12:1-9 just fine, and then you had to backtrack and append, "But we do see that Judah, the Jewish people, will be judged too and only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27, Amos 2:4-5." And yet, you refuse to append the REST of Paul's argument to the Romans! Romans 9:27-11:32 27 Esaias [Yeesha`yahuw; "Isaiah"] also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: [notice: this is NOT just the Jews but ALL the children of Israel! And, they are contrasted with the believing Gentiles later! (See 9:30-31.)] 28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. 29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha. 30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; 33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved [rescued; delivered]. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ [the Messiah] is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ [the Messiah] down from above:) 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ [the Messiah] again from the dead.) 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved [rescued; delivered]. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation [rescue; deliverance]. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher [herald; announcer]? 15 And how shall they preach herald; announce], except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world. 19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. 20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. 21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people. 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; ) unto this day. 9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. 11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation [rescue; deliverance] is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them [the children of Israel] to jealousy. 12 Now if the fall of them bethe riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? 13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of [the one sent to] the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: 14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save [rescue; deliver] some of them. 15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit be holy [if the first crop harvest be singled out for the Lord], the lump [of flour dough] is also holy [singled out for the Lord]: and if the root be holy [the rootstock of the olive tree be singled out for the Lord], so are the branches [singled out for the Lord]. 17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being [of] a wild olive [an oleander] tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree [Israel]; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root [you're not holding onto the rootstock], but the root thee [however, the rootstock still holds onto you]. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches [children of Israel] were broken off, that I [a Gentile] might be graffed in. [This is how you've been talking.] 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches [the genetically natural children of Israel], take heed lest he also spare not thee [the unnaturally grafted children of an oleander tree]. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they [the genetically natural children of Israel] abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in [onto the rootstock of the olive tree, Israel]: for God is able to graff them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature [an oleander tree], and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these [the children of Israel], which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so [in this way] all Israel shall be saved [rescued; delivered]: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. 28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance [a change of mind; reneging]. 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy [through the mercy of you Gentiles] they [the children of Israel] also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all [children of Israel and Gentiles] in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all [children of Israel and Gentiles]. KJV Also, be aware that there is a difference between how you (and most) use the words "save," "saved," and "salvation," and how the Word of God uses those words. This passage is NOT talking directly about God's justification of an individual; it's talking about the RESCUE or the DELIVERANCE of a PEOPLE! And, that fact makes this passage and argument KEY to this topic!
  7. Who confirms a covenant with many?

    Shalom, Psalms37:4. My initial reaction was "So what else is new?" ALL of the Islamic states say the same! That doesn't mean Jerusalem doesn't belong to Israel! And, it has ALWAYS been the Israeli capital city since David secured it from the "Jebusites!" They just need to get over themselves! Oh, and if they have a conniption fit over it, and bring back the Messiah by attacking Israel, they will "recognize Israel" VERY QUICKLY!
  8. Who confirms a covenant with many?

    Shalom, WilliamL. Sorry, but you've made EXACTLY THE SAME MISTAKE! Textually and grammatically, it CANNOT be the "prince who shall come" who is the "he" in verse 27! It's not "Vespacian" any more than it's some future "antichrist!" Regarding Matthew 23:38, don't you think I would have looked that up in the Greek already? It's "oikos," the SAME WORD used here: Matthew 10:6 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. KJV The "lost sheep of the TEMPLE of Israel?!" No, that makes no sense, and the word in Matthew 23:38 is not talking about the temple, either! He just finished saying, Matthew 23:37 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! KJV The "pronouns" in this verse are interesting, as well: Kata Maththion 23:37-38 37 Ierousaleem Ierousaleem, hee apokteinousa tous profeetas kai lithobolousa tous apostalmenous pros auteen, posakis eetheleesa episunagagein ta tekna sou, hon tropon ornis episunagei ta nossia autees hupo tas pterugas kai ouk eetheleesate. 38 Idou afietai humin ho oikos humoon ereemos. UBS Greek New Testament 37 Ierousaleem = 37 Yerushalayim/Jerusalem Ierousaleem = Yerushalayim/Jerusalem (reduplicated), hee = the apokteinousa = murderess tous = of-the profeetas = prophets kai = and lithobolousa = stoner (f.) tous = of-the apostalmenous = ones-sent pros = to auteen, = her, posakis = how-often eetheleesa = I-would episunagagein = have-gathered-together ta = the tekna = children sou, = of-you (sing.) hon = in-which tropon = way ornis = a-hen episunagei = gathers-together ta = the nossia = chicks autees = of-her hupo = under tas = the pterugas = wings kai = and ouk = not eetheleesate. = you (pl.)-would. 38 Idou = 38 Look! afietai = is-left humin = unto-you (pl.) ho = the oikos = household humoon = of-you (pl.) ereemos. = desolate. You wouldn't notice the difference between the pronouns unless you studied the Greek of the text OR used the KJV. Thee's and thou's (and thy's and thine's) in the KJV are SINGULAR; ye's and you's (and your's and yours's) are PLURAL! That information is lost in all the modern, English translations! At first, Yeshua` is talking to them as a UNIT, an ENTITY, the CITY. Then, at the end of verse 37, He switches to the plural of the INDIVIDUALS within the city!
  9. Who confirms a covenant with many?

    Shalom, Quasar93. Oh, absolutely! The Davidic Covenant will DEFINITELY be fulfilled during the Millennium and BEYOND (Luke 1:30-33)! Let's look at this carefully, though: I'm not saying that Yeshua` is this "prince who is to come"; I'm saying that the "prince who is to come" was Titus of Rome, and the mashiyach (Messiah; Christ) performs the activities in verse 27 because those activities CANNOT be done by this "prince who is to come!" It's just a matter of the grammar! HOWEVER, there will be some things done by the mashiyach that do NOT happen all at once! Just as king David was accepted slowly over a period of time, so will king Yeshua` also slowly be accepted. His first three-and-a-half-year "ministry" was a LEGITIMATE offer of the Kingdom to the Jews, those of His own tribe. When they rejected Him as their King, He rejected that generation and POSTPONED the Kingdom to the future! HE is the One who put the "gap" in the 70 Sevens of Daniel 9 but He didn't put it between the 69th and 70th Sevens; He put it between the 69 and a half Sevens and the one half Seven! HE'S the One who left the Jews of Jerusalem "DESOLATE!" Matthew 23:29-39 ... (their overspreading of abominations) 29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. 32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. KJV They would be in that condition "until the consummation (or the end)" and suffer "that determined [pressure/tribulation which] would be poured upon the desolate (the Jews)." Notice, too, that they would NOT see Yeshua` from that point on until they can say, "Blessed is He that cometh in the name of the LORD." This was quoted from Psalm 118:26, and the Hebrew of that phrase in that verse is "Baruwkh haba' b-shem YHWH," which means, "Welcome, Comer on-the-authority of-YHWH." First, as I've already addressed, whether we look at the English, "the people OF THE PRINCE that shall come," or look at the Hebrew, "`am NAAGIYD habaa'," the conclusion is the same: the "prince that shall come" CANNOT be the antecedent of the verbs' pronouns in verse 27! Second, you must recognize that the authors of the "most conservative evangelical commentaries" are not necessarily students of Hebrew. Third, you must also understand that the authors of the "most conservative evangelical commentaries" will have already formed a bias on what they believe to be true, which may differ from what the text actually allows. Here, the Christ is also called a "prince" ("naagiyd"), but elsewhere He is also called a "prince of peace" ("sar shalom")! A "naagiyd" is one who stands out in front of a group of people and gives them orders. He's also the one who leads his troops into battle. A "sar" is one who has dominion over others. Of the two, a "sar" is the one who is a ruler. No, the "coming prince" IS the prince whose people destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D! I don't have a problem with fitting Revelation 13 with Daniel 7. This part is appropriately compared. I only have a problem with trying to fit Daniel 9 into the works. And, the author of this Precept Austin article has LIKEWISE made the opposite assumption, namely "that there IS a future 'prince" making a covenant with Israel!" The irony is that this location in Daniel 9:24-27 is the ONLY place from which pretribulational rapturists argue that there SHALL be a future prince called the "antichrist" who makes a covenant with Israel! Isn't that circular reasoning? Using one's view of eschatology to support one's interpretation of Daniel 9:27, and using one's interpretation of Daniel 9:27 to support one's eschatological view? How near this world may be to the actual entering upon all these things no man can say, but it is the part of wisdom to learn from the prophetic Scriptures, and to turn now to Him who alone can save; to own Him as Redeemer and Lord, and thus be certain of being caught up to meet Him when He comes in the clouds, ere the time comes for His righteous judgment to be poured out upon this poor world. (Daniel - H A Ironside) Of course, Harry Ironside is a pretribulational rapturist; so, he's not going to be a reputable source for the view that the Messiah is the antecedent of the "he's" in Daniel 9:27. And, he has not faithfully transmitted my point of view, at all. "The Lord Jesus Himself is NOT the prince that shall come!" His crucifixion IS the event which caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease. See Hebrews 10:8-18. Hebrews 10:8-18 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, 16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. KJV Yeshua` put an END to the offering for sin! EXACTLY as predicted by Gavri'el to Daniel in 9:27! ( For much more: http://www.preceptaustin.org/daniel_927 Quasar93 AH! But, you see, Yeshua` DID bring about the desolation! HE is the one who declared them "DESOLATE!"
  10. Who confirms a covenant with many?

    Shabbat shalom, Quasar93. Nope. It's NOT the "antichrist." That's a typical answer from those who hold to the Pretribulational Rapture theory. (I should know; I used to BE one!) Nor is this covenant the NEW Covenant or the "Covenant of Grace." That's a typical answer from a Preterist or Amillennialist. It's the DAVIDIC Covenant (2 Kings 7:1-17), which is an extension and an elaboration of the Abrahamic Covenant (Gen. 12:1-7; 13:14-17; 15:1-21; 17:1-14; and 22:15-18) that God made with Avraham (Abraham), passed down to his son, Yitschaq (Isaac), and to his grandson, Ya`aqov (Jacob)/Yisra'el (Israel), and his great grandson, Yhudah (Judah) was named as the source of their sheeVeT ("sceptre") and then through the Mosaic Covenant when the children of Yisra'el were rescued from Egyptian slavery at the Exodus. THIS was the Covenant that extended to David and his SEED! All of the kings of Yisra'el (Israel) and Yhudah (Judah) were "anointed ones," even David's predecessor, Sha'uwl (Saul). The Hebrew word for an "anointed one" was "mashiyach." And, this word is transliterated to the English word "messiah." This Hebrew word was translated into Greek as "christos," from which, through transliteration, we get our English word "christ." Therefore, there were MANY "christs" down through time, but the final "Christ" - the ULTIMATE "Christ" - was Yeshua` (Jesus), God's Son! Observe how Matthew's Gospel starts: Matthew 1:1 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. KJV And, then, the Gospel goes into Yeshua`s lineage, submitted as PROOF of His inheritance of both the title and to what end that title embodies. The antecedent of the instances of "he" in Daniel 9:27 have "mashiyach" in verse 26 as their antecedent! It cannot be referring to the "prince that shall come" (naagiyd habaa') because "prince" (naagiyd) is an object of a preposition (namely, "of") in English and the second noun (following `am, meaning "people") is in a noun construct state in Hebrew! So, let's put the Messiah's name in Daniel 9: 27: Daniel 9:27 27 And Yeshua` (Jesus) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: (reminiscent of David's early kingdom, 1 Kings 2:11) and in the midst of the week Yeshua` (Jesus) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, (Hebrews 9 and 10) and for the overspreading of abominations Yeshua` (Jesus) shall make it desolate, (Matthew 23:1-39) even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Matthew 24:29-31) KJV
  11. An unprecedented event: would you join this?

    Shabbat shalom, Shilohsfoal. Hmmm... Since this is a natural occurrence that also occurred in 2008, then the only thing "spectacular" about this is that it will be closer to earth and visible to the naked eye. They said it will only be as bright as the stars that make up the Big Dipper. Don't let the hype of such an event make you go ga-ga!
  12. An unprecedented event: would you join this?

    Shabbat shalom, Shilohsfoal. Alright, I'll bite: What "new star?"
  13. Dreams & Parables

    Shabbat shalom, Mary8. One can learn from similitudes, types, and shadows, but one must be careful in their studies on typology not to let it escalate to "TYPOLATRY" - the WORSHIP of types! There's NO type that is applicable everywhere in Scripture. For a good example, consider Matthew 13:33: Matthew 13:33 33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened. KJV Often called the "parable of the leaven," the influence of leaven is usually associated with the influence of sin. This comes from the comment by Yeshua` after His disciples forgot to bring bread from the market place... Matthew 16:5-12 5 And when his disciples were come to the other side, they had forgotten to take bread. 6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. 7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread. 8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread? 9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? 10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? 11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? 12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. KJV ...and from the "first" epistle of Paul to the Corinthians: 1 Corinthians 5:1-11 1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover (the feast of unleavened bread) is sacrificed for us: 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. KJV (As discovered from verse 9, First Corinthians was not really the first epistle to the Corinthians.) However, in the case of Matthew 13:33, "leaven" does NOT mean "sin," unless we think the "kingdom of heaven" means "sin," for we read, "The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven." Therefore, types CHANGE with their usage! Each time a type is used, one must look at the context of that type to determine both what the type represents and how it is used within that context.
  14. An unprecedented event: would you join this?

    Shalom, frienduff thaylorde. Hee hee! Maybe the chicken was created with an egg already within her!
  15. An unprecedented event: would you join this?

    Shalom, Shilohsfoal. Wrong perspective, but no. Of course I do! Silly question really. However, there are qualifiers that can CHANGE the "appointed time." For you to think it couldn't happen is for you to doubt whether God will hear our prayers, but we are TOLD that He will! And, no, because of the way you phrased the question, a simple yes or no will NOT do! Of course I do! But, HE is the One who determines what He has said will happen and when! He doesn't answer to you or anyone else who thinks they've isolated the day and the hour or even the month or year! Something else to consider: Maybe He won't change the date of when Yeshua` returns; He may not, but He COULD changed the players! He can change who will be alive and who won't be alive when He allows His Son to return! He can also change the NATIONS that are players in the event, as well! Something else to consider is this: The Jewish calendar, following the lunar cycle, will change from year to year as to when Yeshua` may return in that year. I don't expect Him to return until about 220 years from now. If He returns in my lifetime, I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I don't think it will happen. Just the same, I'll continue to look for Him and anxiously expect Him to come at any time!
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