EricH Posted January 18, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.56 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 18, 2006 Jesus is a man. That's what the Bible says. Yes, He never sinned but that doesn't make Him God Himself. He never sinned, but He prayed to God. He never sinned, but tempted by devil. He never sinned, but He died. He never sinned, but He is still a man. For me, and for Jesus, there is ONLY one true God - the Father. Peace. Equating Jesus with the Father is not biblically accurate. Jesus and the Father were both God (as was the Holy Spirit). But, they were distinct in personhood. Jesus claimed to be God on several occassions and was worshipped as God by individuals. He exercised perogatives of deity and was affirmed as God by the NT writers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unico Posted January 19, 2006 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2006 Equating Jesus with the Father is not biblically accurate. Jesus and the Father were both God (as was the Holy Spirit). But, they were distinct in personhood. Jesus claimed to be God on several occassions and was worshipped as God by individuals. He exercised perogatives of deity and was affirmed as God by the NT writers. So, you do believe that the Father is the ONLY true God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted January 19, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2006 Equating Jesus with the Father is not biblically accurate. Jesus and the Father were both God (as was the Holy Spirit). But, they were distinct in personhood. Jesus claimed to be God on several occassions and was worshipped as God by individuals. He exercised perogatives of deity and was affirmed as God by the NT writers. So, you do believe that the Father is the ONLY true God? Jesus and the Father are both God, just with seperate roles within the Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unico Posted January 20, 2006 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) I'll address my question again to EricH [since he commented on my post] Do you believe that the Father is the ONLY true God? Edited January 20, 2006 by Unico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONE WHO WISHES TO LOVE GOD Posted January 20, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 191 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/25/1972 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Equating Jesus with the Father is not biblically accurate. Jesus and the Father were both God (as was the Holy Spirit). But, they were distinct in personhood. Jesus claimed to be God on several occassions and was worshipped as God by individuals. He exercised perogatives of deity and was affirmed as God by the NT writers. So, you do believe that the Father is the ONLY true God? Jesus and the Father are both God, just with seperate roles within the Trinity. Hello Bro heres the problem with your interpetation you say Jesus is 100 % God well Jesus says at John 20. 17 that the Father is God even to himself, so How is it possiable that you have Jesus as being 100% God having a God. and this is why Jesus at John 17. 3 says that the Father is the only true God and also how it is that Jesus says that the Father is Greater than he is. No Trinity here, the Father is the Most High and Jesus is the Son of the Most High the one that sits at the right hand of God. I hope this helps you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted January 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2006 Equating Jesus with the Father is not biblically accurate. Jesus and the Father were both God (as was the Holy Spirit). But, they were distinct in personhood. Jesus claimed to be God on several occassions and was worshipped as God by individuals. He exercised perogatives of deity and was affirmed as God by the NT writers. So, you do believe that the Father is the ONLY true God? Jesus and the Father are both God, just with seperate roles within the Trinity. Hello Bro heres the problem with your interpetation you say Jesus is 100 % God well Jesus says at John 20. 17 that the Father is God even to himself, so How is it possiable that you have Jesus as being 100% God having a God. and this is why Jesus at John 17. 3 says that the Father is the only true God and also how it is that Jesus says that the Father is Greater than he is. No Trinity here, the Father is the Most High and Jesus is the Son of the Most High the one that sits at the right hand of God. I hope this helps you I'm just curious about where you learned to interpret scripture. Do you read Hebrew? Do you read/speak koine Greek? Studied hermeneutics? Whenever someone claims to have the proper interpretation (and is correcting others), I am always curious about how they arrived at that conclusion. I think it's a fair question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted January 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2006 I responded to the scriptures in another thread. It's dishonest to use them in the way you are since you ignore the Greek and even the English context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Equating Jesus with the Father is not biblically accurate. Jesus and the Father were both God (as was the Holy Spirit). But, they were distinct in personhood. Jesus claimed to be God on several occassions and was worshipped as God by individuals. He exercised perogatives of deity and was affirmed as God by the NT writers. So, you do believe that the Father is the ONLY true God? Jesus and the Father are both God, just with seperate roles within the Trinity. Hello Bro heres the problem with your interpetation you say Jesus is 100 % God well Jesus says at John 20. 17 that the Father is God even to himself, so How is it possiable that you have Jesus as being 100% God having a God. and this is why Jesus at John 17. 3 says that the Father is the only true God and also how it is that Jesus says that the Father is Greater than he is. No Trinity here, the Father is the Most High and Jesus is the Son of the Most High the one that sits at the right hand of God. I hope this helps you Jesus is the Son of God, which really only reinforces his Deity as God: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bukeye2745 Posted March 19, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 19, 2006 Wow, am I the only one here who doesn't believe that Jesus isn't God? Anyone else out there? I'll try to respond to some more as soon as I can, but I have a busy weekend and might not post again until Monday or Tuesday. Talk to you soon! No buddy, you're not. I haven't been around here for quite a while. But I saw this thread and was feeling for ya. I believe as you do. Blessings!! Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted March 19, 2006 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.01 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted March 19, 2006 When His disciples asked Jesus to " show us the Father" Jesus said, "If you have seen Me you have seen the Father. Yes He's God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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