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How can a Christian NOT believe in the Holy Spirit?


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On 6/7/2023 at 8:49 AM, ChristB4us said:

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

If Jesus told Nicodemus how he can know one is born again of the Spirit, would He not say by them speaking in tongues?  But no.  He said that after His ascension vs 13 which is after His crucifixion vs 14 for whenever anyone believes in Jesus Christ, shall have eternal life vs 15 hence born again of the Spirit.  John 3:6-15

Yes no sign is given. We have prophecy to the end of time.  Signs to wonder after are for the adulterous generation  ,  It's why he approached Nicodemus a sign and wonder seeker as those who mocked God making Jesus into a circus seal 

 

They refused to beleive in God not seen they as faithless require the things seen a sign.   

Jesus declared the law of His father. . 

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

Showing evidence they reject the loving law .no signs 

John 6:29-30 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

No sign no belief .

Nicodemus was lovingly commanded to marvel not . Marving is not believing it wondering marveling imagining  . we are saved by believing .

 1 Corinthian 14  establishes it as sign of God mocking those who mock the understanding of the word causing them to fall back slain in the spirit of judgement    

The idea of bringing prophecy in a language not known or un revealed became a mocking sport  like. .  those darn bible thumpers they are so childish, thumping hoping away .

It as the law is written is foundation of the doctrine tongues (prophecy) is found in Isaiah 28    

1 Corinthian 14 :21-22 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.Wherefore tongues (prophecy) are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying (declaring the tongue or word of God) serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

 

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31 minutes ago, Daniel Marsh said:

Hi Danial its been awhile .Good to hear you.

It would seem the description of the image is in some sort of encrypted understanding like some attribute to tongues an image without understanding .

natural mankind No faith, not little. . . . .  none.  

I would offer do the will of of God's living word  "let there be"  and it reached its goal of good and  did not fall short of the glory of God .His arms are not to short   

Prophecy as tongues is for born again believers. signs to wonder after . . for non believers. 

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in pain from blood clotts

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10 hours ago, Daniel Marsh said:

in pain from blood clotts

Sorry to hear that. What a drag it is getting old  .

Good to hear from you.

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srill in pain and that is ok because it is opening witnessing opportunities.

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