Shilohsfoal Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: No that is of course in the future, but it is before they got sent into exile to all nations, which happened after 70AD. What if the time of the gentiles is now almost fulfilled? He would raise them up after 2 days according to Amos and it's almost 2030. They get sent into exile on the day of the Lord which is future.It happens at the time of the end when Christ comes. Luke 21 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. The time of the gentiles does not end till the 7th Trump sounds and the kingdom becomes Christs.There were no documented signs in the sun and moon in 70 ad and the powers of the heavens were not shaken in 70 ad.And the Son of man did not comes in the clouds in 70 ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,178 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 671 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Online Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted December 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: They get sent into exile on the day of the Lord which is future.It happens at the time of the end when Christ comes. Luke 21 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. The time of the gentiles does not end till the 7th Trump sounds and the kingdom becomes Christs.There were no documented signs in the sun and moon in 70 ad and the powers of the heavens were not shaken in 70 ad.And the Son of man did not comes in the clouds in 70 ad. It could be that half Jerusalem gets into exile, but the going into exile of the country and people all over the world is what happened after 70AD until 1948. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: It could be that half Jerusalem gets into exile, but the going into exile of the country and people all over the world is what happened after 70AD until 1948. Again.This prophecy has not been fulfilled. You take one verse out of context and claim it's fulfilled and ignore the rest of the prophecy.Try to keep the passage in context to have a true understanding . Luke 21 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Edited December 25, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,178 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 671 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Online Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted December 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: Again.This prophecy has not been fulfilled. You take one verse out of context and claim it's fulfilled and ignore the rest of the prophecy.Try to keep the passage in context to have a true understanding . Luke 21 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. It reads as one event, but they asked 2 questions and He just skips 2000 years in His answer as if it's one event, which is also a reason why they thought the Messiah would only come once. That also sounds like one event. Isaiah 11 There shall come forth a [a]Rod from the stem of Jesse, And a Branch shall [c]grow out of his roots. 2 The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, The Spirit of wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord. 3 His delight is in the fear of the Lord, And He shall not judge by the sight of His eyes, Nor decide by the hearing of His ears; 4 But with righteousness He shall judge the poor, And decide with equity for the meek of the earth; He shall strike the earth with the rod of His mouth, And with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked. 5 Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins, And faithfulness the belt of His waist. 6 “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, The leopard shall lie down with the young goat, The calf and the young lion and the fatling together; And a little child shall lead them. 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; Their young ones shall lie down together; And the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole, And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord As the waters cover the sea. 10 “And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse, Who shall stand as a banner to the people; For the Gentiles shall seek Him, And His resting place shall be glorious.” 11 It shall come to pass in that day That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time To recover the remnant of His people who are left, From Assyria and Egypt, From Pathros and Cush, From Elam and Shinar, From Hamath and the [d]islands of the sea. 12 He will set up a banner for the nations, And will [e]assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four [f]corners of the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: It reads as one event, but they asked 2 questions and He just skips 2000 years in His answer as if it's one event, which is also a reason why they thought the Messiah would only come once. That also sounds like one event. Isaiah 11 There shall come forth a [a]Rod from the stem of Jesse, And a Branch shall [c]grow out of his roots. 2 The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, The Spirit of wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord. 3 His delight is in the fear of the Lord, And He shall not judge by the sight of His eyes, Nor decide by the hearing of His ears; 4 But with righteousness He shall judge the poor, And decide with equity for the meek of the earth; He shall strike the earth with the rod of His mouth, And with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked. 5 Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins, And faithfulness the belt of His waist. 6 “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, The leopard shall lie down with the young goat, The calf and the young lion and the fatling together; And a little child shall lead them. 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; Their young ones shall lie down together; And the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole, And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord As the waters cover the sea. 10 “And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse, Who shall stand as a banner to the people; For the Gentiles shall seek Him, And His resting place shall be glorious.” 11 It shall come to pass in that day That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time To recover the remnant of His people who are left, From Assyria and Egypt, From Pathros and Cush, From Elam and Shinar, From Hamath and the [d]islands of the sea. 12 He will set up a banner for the nations, And will [e]assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four [f]corners of the earth. But you simply took one verse out of context.You don't even except the fact that zech 14 and Amos 5 says they will go into captivity on the day of the Lord. Zech 14 14 Behold, the day of the Lord is coming, And your [a]spoil will be divided in your midst. 2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses [b]rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Amos 5 26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god[b]— which you made for yourselves. 27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,” says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) For some reason ,you believe the people who reject Jesus as Messiah will remain in his kingdom after he inherits it.But that is not what Jesus taught.Jesus taught,because of their disbelief,they will be cast out. 11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Edited December 25, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted December 26, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,178 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 671 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Online Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: But you simply took one verse out of context.You don't even except the fact that zech 14 and Amos 5 says they will go into captivity on the day of the Lord. Zech 14 14 Behold, the day of the Lord is coming, And your [a]spoil will be divided in your midst. 2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses [b]rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Amos 5 26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god[b]— which you made for yourselves. 27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,” says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty. That can be true, but that's the city, not the whole country. It already happened that they were sent all over the world and after WWII they had to come back from the North etc. Ezekiel 37 He first puts them together before He breathes life into them and already way more than in the centuries before have gotten saved. The wood gets weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted December 26, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,178 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 671 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Online Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: For some reason ,you believe the people who reject Jesus as Messiah will remain in his kingdom after he inherits it.But that is not what Jesus taught.Jesus taught,because of their disbelief,they will be cast out. 11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. No I believe they all get saved when they see the ac is evil and when Jesus comes back, because He only comes back when Jerusalem says: blessed He who comes in the Name of the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted December 26, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: That can be true, but that's the city, not the whole country. It already happened that they were sent all over the world and after WWII they had to come back from the North etc. Ezekiel 37 He first puts them together before He breathes life into them and already way more than in the centuries before have gotten saved. The wood gets weak. You believe the Muslims who are told to kill all Jews in Israel will stop with Jerusalem? Even after watching what Israel is doing to the Palestinians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted December 26, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: No I believe they all get saved when they see the ac is evil and when Jesus comes back, because He only comes back when Jerusalem says: blessed He who comes in the Name of the Lord. How can an antichrist see that an antichrist is evil when they have been raised to believe Jesus was a false prophet and everyone who believes in Jesus is an appostate? You actually believe they will see their own antichrist parents as being evil? Edited December 26, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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