NConly Posted January 3 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,332 Content Per Day: 2.82 Reputation: 612 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3 21 hours ago, BeyondET said: Can you explain that a bit more, earth has a reservation in fire it is stated in Revelation earth will be cast into fire. I don't get your point? The earth reserved unto fire I believe in as you. The earth perished and God had to recreate it I do not believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted January 3 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,398 Content Per Day: 12.14 Reputation: 3,269 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, NConly said: The earth reserved unto fire I believe in as you. The earth perished and God had to recreate it I do not believe that. @NConly Here's a pivotal verse: " Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." (Hebrews 11.3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted January 3 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,398 Content Per Day: 12.14 Reputation: 3,269 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3 On 1/1/2024 at 2:43 PM, NConly said: Eph 3 I have read a lot of post in this thread maybe not all. Not sure if this has been posted. 1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: 2 Pet 3 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 ""But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store,"" reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. I know there is a thread about the whole world being wasteland before the beginning of man but v 7 seems to say different.imo @NConly Sometimes we have to take in that God brings about vast changes that man on his own would find hard to contemplate. The Word is truly revealing and amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NConly Posted January 3 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,332 Content Per Day: 2.82 Reputation: 612 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3 42 minutes ago, farouk said: @NConly Sometimes we have to take in that God brings about vast changes that man on his own would find hard to contemplate. The Word is truly revealing and amazing. I agree the with the word is truly revealing and amazing. Still I do not believe the recreation theory of earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted January 3 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,398 Content Per Day: 12.14 Reputation: 3,269 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, NConly said: I agree the with the word is truly revealing and amazing. Still I do not believe the recreation theory of earth. @NConly I do struggle with the 'gap theory'........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NConly Posted January 3 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,332 Content Per Day: 2.82 Reputation: 612 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3 13 minutes ago, farouk said: @NConly I do struggle with the 'gap theory'........... some say the everything perished and God in Genesis recreated I think it happened differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted January 3 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,418 Content Per Day: 8.21 Reputation: 610 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, farouk said: @NConly NConly said: The earth reserved unto fire I believe in as you. The earth perished and God had to recreate it I do not believe that. Here's a pivotal verse: " Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." (Hebrews 11.3) This verse actually says that the earth was restored. The English word "framed" is 'karartizo' and is translated as "restored" in Gal 6:1 and 1 Peter 5:10 and translated as "mended" in the gospels for the disciples who were mending their nets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted January 3 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,418 Content Per Day: 8.21 Reputation: 610 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3 49 minutes ago, NConly said: I agree the with the word is truly revealing and amazing. Still I do not believe the recreation theory of earth. The earth was restored, not recreated, before God placed Adam on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted January 3 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,418 Content Per Day: 8.21 Reputation: 610 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3 44 minutes ago, farouk said: @NConly I do struggle with the 'gap theory'........... The only "theory" is what people say might have occurred during the time gap that resulted in an uninhabited wasteland that required restoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted January 3 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,418 Content Per Day: 8.21 Reputation: 610 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3 30 minutes ago, NConly said: some say the everything perished and God in Genesis recreated I think it happened differently. Nothing perished in Genesis, or before Genesis. Those "some people" have very active imaginations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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