Smalcald Posted September 13, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Obviously we are saved only through Christ, anyone who does not have faith in Christ as Lord and as God is not saved nor has eternal life. Of course Abraham and Moses believed in Christ, they believe in Him now and are with Him; they were Christians, their own words proclaimed Christ, as Jesus said Abraham was happy to see Him and His day! We are not saved based on our ethnicity. So yes many Jews who do not believe in Christ will not be saved, and so it goes for many gentiles also. Today the religion of Judaism rejects Christ and thus is a false religion, however many Jews will come to faith in Christ and many already have, we know this from scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted September 13, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Jesus was in fact a jew and if you want to be like jesus then you must become a jew. Shalom, Jesus was and is in fact G-d the Son and if anyone desires to be saved, they must believe on Him as the Messiah. Romans 10: 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yah_Saves Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 No one goes to the father except through Yeshua: Question: If no one goes to the Father except through Yeshua how did Moses and everyone in the First Testament to the Jews,enter the kingdom or G_D, since they died before Yeshua was born? read ephesians 4:9 1 Peter 3:18-20, 4:5-6 Corinthians 15 22-28 In John: 4:22 Yeshua says He is a Jew, only Jews know how to Worship and salvation comes from the Jews. Matt: 23:3 Yeshua tells Jews to "Observe and Do" (continue to follow the laws of Moses. Question: why do gentile converts reject what Yeshua said and admit they are converted Jews who follow Yeshua? because they are not truly part of Yisreal, when Yahushuah is talking about being jewish, he is comparing it to being a gentile. Being jewish = part of Yisreal Being a gentile = not part of Yisreal, heathen, Pagan, etc. Do you believe Yeshua lied or mis spoke or tricked others into believing something that was not completely true about the importance of remaining Jewish? no, he did not lie, or trick, or mis-speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetycakes Posted September 15, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,861 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 2,117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/23/1964 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Those born after the death of Jesus (i.e...us)...look back to calvary, and are saved. Those born before Jesus died, looked forward to that time, and therefore their faith was considered as righteousness (in Him) Jesus is the one who divided history, and offered salvation for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whirlwind Posted October 10, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 113 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/22/1946 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Obviously we are saved only through Christ, anyone who does not have faith in Christ as Lord and as God is not saved nor has eternal life. Of course Abraham and Moses believed in Christ, they believe in Him now and are with Him; they were Christians, their own words proclaimed Christ, as Jesus said Abraham was happy to see Him and His day! We are not saved based on our ethnicity. So yes many Jews who do not believe in Christ will not be saved, and so it goes for many gentiles also. Today the religion of Judaism rejects Christ and thus is a false religion, however many Jews will come to faith in Christ and many already have, we know this from scripture. My belief is that at the end of days, once the two witnesses have spoken and God's elect have testified that many will come to Christ, our brother Judah is of course included in that. God specifies that not only the house of Israel will be sealed but also the tribe of Judah: Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred for forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 5.Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand....... So....when the elect are delivered before Satan and "turn to you for a testimony" the Holy Spirit will speak through them and : Luke 21:15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. Then they will be sealed by God and then Christ comes...... ........Whirlwind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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