Soul_Searcher50 Posted June 4, 2006 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2006 For Pete's sake.................it's a fiction movie. How come Christians don't rise up against all the demonic horror flicks that have been released lately? FINALLY, someone makes sense!! Thanks Raina! I read the book AND saw the movie. Both are basically thrillers, and the underlying theme, the possibility of Jesus having been married and produced offspring, is just that, a possibility, a theory. Why is this idea so horrible to contemplate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeemed098 Posted June 4, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 489 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/12/1964 Share Posted June 4, 2006 What man intends for evil, God uses for Good. We serve a God who turns "Curse" into Blessing. Let them take the biggest and deepest breath they can and pronounce the most devastating and destructive curse they can muster. The bigger the curse, the greater the blessing.....As Paul said, we fight the "Good Fight". A good fight is a fight that cannot be lost. It cannot be lost because it was already WON 2000 years ago on a Cross..."It is Finished." Besides the Da Vinci code is based on the Gnostic gospels and decode according to the Aramaic.....Pity the Gnostic gospels where written in "Coptic". Regards, Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyRaven Posted June 4, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,981 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/20/1964 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Heresy!!! The movie I mean and the book. I have lost my respect for Tom Hanks. Wish Mel Gibson would do more movies about Jesus. Like the Gospel of Mark or John. How could you stand to even watch the DaVinci movie? I think I would get physically ill. Seriously? The Passion was the most violent movie I've ever seen, and coincidentally the most profitable(adjusted for inflation) Passion Movie ever made. Out of like 5! Adjusted for inflation, it won by a long shot. Christians, could you explain this fact? It was probably the most accurate passion movie to date. The controversy surrounding probably helped, I heard of people going several times. I didn't, I purchased it and watched it once, on Easter. Next time I watch it will be good friday, not Easter, it left me in a funk the whole day. It was so powerful that it drained me emotionally. As far as the Code goes, the whole plot is based on a conspiracy theory, and I'm one of those who like them even if I know them to be complete bubkas. So I watched one of these learning channels put the pieces together and decided it's probably one of the most poorly contrived conspiracy theories around. Consider, if Jesus was just a man as the code posits, then exactly why would we care if he was married and who he was married to? The child that he would supposedly have fathered would have meant nothing and would not have been anything significant to the French monarchy. If Jesus was nada, so his wife and child would have been. Even for blasphemous herretical conspiracy theories this has nothing which makes any logical sense. the passover plot was much more logical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can Do (Phil 4:13) Posted June 4, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 227 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,004 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1906 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Incorrect Raven. The 'Passion' is a reenactment of the Catholic "Stations of the Cross." 5 of those 'stations' are NOT mentioned in the Bible. Also the Passion is a movie devoted by Mel Gibson to the Catholic mystic Ane Catherine Emmerich, who herself was a fully practicing occultic. I am currently reading 'The Poison in the Passion' written by Dr Terry Watkins, Th.D. When you match the movie of the 'Passion of the Christ' against the Bible, MANY distubing falsehoods are proclaimed truth and the Bible exposes them as thus. Faithie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can Do (Phil 4:13) Posted June 4, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 227 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,004 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1906 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Incorrect Raven. The 'Passion' is a reenactment of the Catholic "Stations of the Cross." 5 of those 'stations' are NOT mentioned in the Bible. Also the Passion is a movie devoted by Mel Gibson to the Catholic mystic Ane Catherine Emmerich, who herself was a fully practicing occultic. I am currently reading 'The Poison in the Passion' written by Dr Terry Watkins, Th.D. When you match the movie of the 'Passion of the Christ' against the Bible, MANY distubing falsehoods are proclaimed truth and the Bible exposes them as thus. Faithie How much did you pay for that book? Capitalism marches on.... It'll be the end of religion, wait and see, and not to long either... If I am wrong, then please correct me. If you have factual evidence that measures up against the Bible then please show me my error. Faithie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can Do (Phil 4:13) Posted June 5, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 227 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,004 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1906 Author Share Posted June 5, 2006 Ok, I'll bite.... The Passion 'promotes the false religion of Catholicism.' It adds to the Word of God. It poisons the mind with false Biblical images. Corrupts the mind with 'another Jesus.' Promotes Internet 'porn stars.' (Source;Page 65 'The Poison in the Passion' written by Dr. Terry Watkins, Th.D. Published by Dial the Truth Ministries, 2004.) Also, there is the issue of the 14 Stations of the Cross that is heavily displayed in the movie. Are YOU able to prove otherwise? Surely you owe it to me to present factual, Biblical evidence proving me wrong. I do not mind being corrected where I am wrong, how else does one learn. Faithie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyRaven Posted June 5, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,981 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/20/1964 Share Posted June 5, 2006 irony, yes it does matter, whether Jesus has a child with mary magdalene. if you want to come to a christian site and try to argue the points of our faith, you must learn what are the points of our faith. if you are asking the questions for the sake of learning what the points are we will explain them to you. to have been a man without sin, Jesus could not have entered into a sexual relationship with any woman. there is no holy bloodline through mary magdelene or any other woman. the gnostics have been trying to spread this heresy for centuries. those claims do not fly, that dog does not hunt, it did not happen, as fiction writer dan brown states in his work of fiction, by his own admission it is fiction. it is disrespectful and heresy, which is why we don't want it to be shown. it will further confuse the unsaved, and those with a lack of knowledge about the christian faith. yes, it does matter. oh i also wanted to add, since the bible, the inerrant word of God, says, Jesus, ascended into heaven and now sits at the right hand of the father, God. since this is what happened according to the scriptures, he could not have been on the earth to have started a bloodline of royalty, or of anyother type. compare, dan brown, writer of fiction, book of fiction, versus- the bible, the inerrant word of God, there is no contest. the scriptures have been examined and reexamined and back checked through the original greek texts, for centuries, they have not been discredited yet, and i doubt it will happen now, or ever. Um, I take issue with the way you said "to have been a man without sin, Jesus could not have entered into a sexual relationship with any woman." That is not entirely correct, unless we're talking extramarital relations, because sex inside marriage is NOT a sin. It didn't happen and the rest of that is nonsense about the divine feminine and all, but the way you said this made it seem like sex was a sin inside marriage. But DaVinci says Jesus was not God, but man. And having a wife and kids is not a sin for a man...the rest of the premise is faulty because if Jesus was just a rabbi, his wife and kid would have been meaningless to history. You see any holy bloodlines of Gamaliel running around having conspiracy theories written about them? As far as the marriage and child issue...It's the fact that Jesus is GOD that causes the problem. God is already spiritually married...and to have a human child conceived by Jesus...what exactly would that make that child if he was wholely God and wholely man...For this reason alone (Trying to figure out if the kid had a dual nature like Christ did) Jesus would not have even tried having a wife and kid. It would have caused veneration of the child... Yes, it does matter Irony, if Jesus was married because it would have proven him completely human only. And being ccompletely human would have made him incapable of being the saviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyRaven Posted June 5, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,981 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/20/1964 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Ok, I'll bite.... The Passion 'promotes the false religion of Catholicism.' It adds to the Word of God. It poisons the mind with false Biblical images. Corrupts the mind with 'another Jesus.' Promotes Internet 'porn stars.' (Source;Page 65 'The Poison in the Passion' written by Dr. Terry Watkins, Th.D. Published by Dial the Truth Ministries, 2004.) Also, there is the issue of the 14 Stations of the Cross that is heavily displayed in the movie. Are YOU able to prove otherwise? Surely you owe it to me to present factual, Biblical evidence proving me wrong. I do not mind being corrected where I am wrong, how else does one learn. Faithie I happen to believe Catholicism is wrong, but I also believe the Baptists are too. Big deal if Gibson is a Catholic. I want one scene from the movie which is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. You said there are things in there that are not in Scripture, now cough it up. And what in thunderation is this internet porn star poopie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giaour Posted June 5, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 179 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,941 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1964 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I think it was Paul in the Bible that said it is better if a man does not marry and devote his life to serving Christ instead. But if a man can't suppress his sexual desires, it is better that he marry than live with sin. So that is why I think it is blasphemy to say that Jesus was married. I saw the movie,DaVinci code, and up until the last 30 minutes,Tom Hanks character was denying ALL the heresy theories. The last 30 minutes ruined the movie for me. Tom Hanks ends up kneeling at the tomb of Mary Magdeline. Bad Tom,bad Tom. I'd comment more but I'm working on a screen play of the life of mohammed. How he made up a religion by stealing beliefs of other religions and incorporating them into islam. How he raped and murdered innocents for the wealth and to satisfy his lust for money and power. How he was a pedophile and took his 9 year old bride to the wedding bed with her dolls in hand. I expect to be in the witness protection program in a few weeks. Pray for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiosh Posted June 5, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,663 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2006 Ok, I'll bite.... The Passion 'promotes the false religion of Catholicism.' It adds to the Word of God. It poisons the mind with false Biblical images. Corrupts the mind with 'another Jesus.' Promotes Internet 'porn stars.' (Source;Page 65 'The Poison in the Passion' written by Dr. Terry Watkins, Th.D. Published by Dial the Truth Ministries, 2004.) Also, there is the issue of the 14 Stations of the Cross that is heavily displayed in the movie. Are YOU able to prove otherwise? Surely you owe it to me to present factual, Biblical evidence proving me wrong. I do not mind being corrected where I am wrong, how else does one learn. Faithie I happen to believe Catholicism is wrong, but I also believe the Baptists are too. Big deal if Gibson is a Catholic. I want one scene from the movie which is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. You said there are things in there that are not in Scripture, now cough it up. And what in thunderation is this internet porn star poopie? One of the actors played in porn films; I think it was the gal who portrayed Mary Magdalene. Of course, having a role in the Passion also put her in contact with believers; not to mention allowed her to see the Passion played out before her eyes. Sounds like a blessing from God. There were a few scenes in the movie that were not Biblical (they were not anti-Biblical either). for instance, while "Jesus" carries the cross, a girl runs up and tries to give Him a drink of water. She wipes His face with her veil and comes away with His image on the cloth. Also, it is not noted in Scripture that Jesus falls while carrying the cross, nor does it state that He meets His mother on the way to Calvary (although it is almost certain she walked along with Him as she is at the cross). I think that's what Faithie is referring to. btw...Anne Catherine Emmerich was an Augustinian nun who was a stigmatic. She experienced visions from a very young age. She was NOT into the occult. She was "into" Jesus. Peace, Fiosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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