tah Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,131 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/12/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2006 Amen nebula...I understand completely ... I thank God for the blessing of tongues... but it does not matter so much to me whether anyone who has not had the experience believes me or not... I cannot make anyone see it... anymore that I can tell an unsaved person that Jesus is real and make them see it.... You have to hear from God for yourself... I know it is real ...hundres and hundreds of other Christians I know, know it is real , and I am happy in my Christian experience..... Mark you cannot "what if" , it is either yea or nay.. you could "what if yourself" into a coma and get absolutely nowhere..... I believe all those scripture that talks about tongues means just that ...tongues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark777 Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 416 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/16/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2006 I understand. I wasn't asking to direct an argument. I was just interested to know if Nebula, or you Tah, would acknowledge Scripture over experience. Maybe I should have asked it plainly. Hey, Nebula, Tah! Would you acknowledge Scripture over experience if there was a clear cut case? (of anything?) Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tah Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,131 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/12/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2006 You are still if ing Mark... What is the question? no ifs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark777 Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 416 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/16/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2006 Would you acknowledge Scripture over experience "when" there was a clear cut case? (of anything?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tah Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,131 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/12/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2006 When God shows me I have seen scripture wrong I agree with God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark777 Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 416 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/16/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2006 Tah, The discussion was about tongues. One person seemed to be saying that their experience was more valid than a Scriptural explanation. Since there is debate about the meaning of the passages I was just seeking a clarification from Nebula and you about which is more important - personal experience or Scripture - if there was a real conflict or not. I used the word "if" to be diplomatic. I should have been plain and asked right out, "If someone can show you that Scripture clearly contradicts your experience with tongues would you side with Scripture or experience?" I do not believe that the Holy Spirit would Contradict Himself and that if we looked at Scripture in a prayerful manner maybe He would resolve it for us - if we approached it as brothers and sisters in Christ. But before that can happen, it is important to know if you value Scripture over experience in order to go to it for the answers. What do you think? Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2006 I'mn ot against correct understanding. I j ust question how correctly someone can understand the gift who doesn't have it. I understand what you are saying here I think, but I am not sure I totally agree. Anyone can understand what the scripturtes tell us about any of the gifts without having the gift. Having the gift will not give us additional knowledge beyond what is contained in scripturre. However those who have it have a deeper understanding of the impact it has had on their own lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 Would you acknowledge Scripture over experience "when" there was a clear cut case? (of anything?) Did you read my answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 The discussion was about tongues. One person seemed to be saying that their experience was more valid than a Scriptural explanation. Not more valid than Scripture. Read again - Rather the understanding and interpretation of what the Scripture is actually saying. BIG difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 2, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 Anyone can understand what the scripturtes tell us about any of the gifts without having the gift. OK - then what do you understand Paul to be saying when he says: 1 Cor. 14:4 - He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, How do you think a person speaking in tongues "edifies himself"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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