Guest jihadjay Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 We have many myths in the world, and one is that the United States is anti-Islamic, on the contrary, the United States not only supported Islam, it even sponsored terrorism. In Sudan under the leadership of Nimeri, who introduced Islamic Sharia Law, the United States fully supported him; just like they supported Sadat in Egypt who reintroduced Islamic Sharia Law and Zia in Pakistan who also called for Islamic Sharia Law to be implemented. Therefore, why did the United States support radical Islam? Some argue that it was because of the Cold War, this is misleading, for in Sudan the United States them deemed the SPLA, who are mainly Christian, of being communist; today the SPLA under the same leader are deemed to be Christian freedom fighters, and who are trying to prevent Arab Islam from continuing to enslave them. Yet the United States supported Nimeri and the introduction of Islamic Sharia Law. The same applies to Egypt under Sadat and Zia in Pakistan, and note persecution of Christians grew under these leaders and their legacies remain for Christians in both nations. Also, note that the United States supported Islamic Pakistan against democratic India, why? And surely people are not going to claim that India was going to become a communist nation. Therefore, America was just pro-Islamic. While in Afghanistan, the United States supported radical Islam, despite these radicals stating that they were anti-Christian and supporting killing all Christian converts; however, America once more ignored this, and in this period Osama Bin Laden was nothing more than an American puppet - and even in 2002 prior to September 11, the United States were doing deals with the Taliban. You see, just like in Iran under Mossadeq who was overthrown by the despotic shah of Iran, with American help; the United States feared pan-Arabism, socialism, democracy, Ba'athism and other ideals, given this the United States supported conservative Islam. The outcome being that women and non-Muslims, indeed moderate Muslims also, were being denied rights because the United States desired to maintain her strategic interests. Even after September 11 the United States did not go after Saudi Arabia, despite Saudi Arabia supporting radical Islamic terrorism throughout the world, no, instead they bombed Iraq which was based on secularism, and in which Christians had churches and the Deputy-Prime Minister was Christian. While in Saudi Arabia not one single Christian church is allowed, and conversion to Christianity means death; more important, nearly all the nationals involved in September 11 were Saudi citizens, and not one was from Iraq. While in the Balkans you have had three wars between Christians and Muslims, in Bosnia, Cyprus and Kosovo respectively; and guess what, the United States supported Islam three times out of three. Also, the United States even allowed Iran to send terrorists to kill Christians in Bosnia, and ignored the no fly zone in order to send military arms to the Bosnian Muslims - this is typical anti-Christian policies which are implemented by the United States. Remember, when East Timor was invaded and 200,000 Christians were killed, the Americans not only said nothing, but Kissinger gave his blessing and once more the United States played the so-called communist card. In reality they allowed these Christians to be slaughtered in order to appease mainly Muslim Indonesia because of their self-interest. You see, the terrorists who did September 11, were once people who were sponsored by the United States in Afghanistan and Pakistan; and even in Algeria the United States called for the radical Islamic party to be given power, of course France said no, but it shows you how the United States thinks. This is America's hidden foreign policy, it is both anti-Christian and pro-Islamic. christianjihad@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idolsmasher Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 The US will use anyone that suits their purposes while turning a blind eye to human rights abuses and torture. In many cases they are the ones who are actually behind it through CIA training and instigation. All that matters to them is their imperialist agenda they call "protecting America's interests". They only use the human rights card when they need to stir up the American faithful to wage war to expand the empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted October 2, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Soooo, Americans should just accept dying at the hands of terrorists and say that we deserved it? Even if your examples were correct in every way (wich they are not, the US supported a group out of the northern area of Afganistan during the Russian invasion. The Taliban was not formed yet from the southern region of Kandahar. In fact, that group was the only tribe not to be over run by the Taliban.), there is still no justification for the 9/11 massacre. If the US government is responsible, should we not jail those involved? How about a fair trial? You "everything is America's fault" types seem to enjoy when we are hit and even rejoice at the thought of American blood being spilled. Mostly you are the ones that protest America's atrocities, but love it when our innocents are slaughtered. This is nothing short of hypocrisy. Never do non-Americans protest their own governments short-comings. How about Great Britain's treatment of the arabs in the 19th and 20th centuries? How about Russia's extermination of hundreds of thousands of muslims during the communists' sweep through central asia? Nothing to say? If you hate America so bad, don't come here. If you live here, then move. You are not going to spread the garbage of islam here and expect to have it not challenged. If I thought that your motives were simply to shed light on the subject, then I wouldn't bother responding, but some of the posts and "posters" are simply too one sided on the subject. Your motives are clear. Your intentions shine. I am bound to protect this country against all threats, foriegn or domestic. I am bound by God Himself to project the Word of Salvation. Islam will not use this country as it has others over history. America is not now, nor ever will be perfect. Let's pray for an end to the corruption, scandal, and cold hearted murder in the name of money commited by all leaders of this world. Let's help those that would try to protect innocents. You'll find it hard to convince me that any child in the day care facilities in the WTC had anything to do with the arab plight. Don't justify murder by implying that America just getting what it deserves. If you felt so, and you are American, maybe you feel so strongly about it that you will turn yourself in to the nearest muslim and offer yourself for our sins. No takers? Do you think they would stop then? No, they wouldn't. The goal for them is total world domination. And you think America is bad? Wake up, friends. If they get enough support here and somehow gain victory, you are next. Your servant in Christ, t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneAccord Posted October 2, 2003 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,587 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2003 Wo, Nellie! Sigh............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted October 3, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted October 3, 2003 I'm sorry. I got sucked into this thread again after saying otherwise a few months ago. How about this; Only America and Israel are bad in this world. All sin spews from them and all other violence is just a defence against their oil soaked dreams of world domination. All innocent blood is either shed by them or an acceptable reality that was spurred by them in the first place. If islam could take over both nations, then all violence would stop. People will live in harmony. Heaven on earth. I was wrong the whole time. Better? Hopefuly, God will lead me away from these type threads in the future. My heart needs the change and I'm wasting time anyway. I'll see you all in the other threads. Open to you, t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idolsmasher Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 Only America and Israel are bad in this world. All sin spews from them and all other violence is just a defence against their oil soaked dreams of world domination. All innocent blood is either shed by them or an acceptable reality that was spurred by them in the first place. Well....that's close....you're getting warmer! (just ribbin ya) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneAccord Posted October 4, 2003 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,587 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted October 4, 2003 I'm sorry. I got sucked into this thread again after saying otherwise a few months ago. How about this; Only America and Israel are bad in this world. All sin spews from them and all other violence is just a defence against their oil soaked dreams of world domination. All innocent blood is either shed by them or an acceptable reality that was spurred by them in the first place. If islam could take over both nations, then all violence would stop. People will live in harmony. Heaven on earth. I was wrong the whole time. Better? Hopefuly, God will lead me away from these type threads in the future. My heart needs the change and I'm wasting time anyway. I'll see you all in the other threads. Open to you, t. That's ridiculous, too, ted! It sounds like what is needed here is a solid understanding of who the ENEMY is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest daughterofaking Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 I'm not an American but I'm getting a bit weary of this blaming the US for all the problems of the world. All people are sinners whether American, British, Irish or Chinese! Yes there are some evil Americans but evil people exist in all races and nations. If the left think America is so evil why don't they emigrate. No one is forcing them to live there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsmeow Posted October 6, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 439 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 7,315 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 356 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted October 6, 2003 Ted: You're not alone...brother! And some of us DO appreciate the sacrifice you're making overseas. Please DON'T think for one moment that we aren't behind you. There's always a few naysayers..it's like warts and pimples and other human anomolies. What can you do? You can't reason with these people. We call them "trolls". They pop in and do one post, maybe two. They disappear and you'll never hear from them ever again. Notice on the profile for Mr. Jihad here...he's never bothered to refute you; probably never bothered to check to see any responses. He accomplished his will by driving up your blood pressure. Don't waste your precious energy worrying about these kooks. They just feed on strife and contention. You keep doing the work you're doing. People back home are with you...and can't wait for you guys to come home! Tell our soldiers over there....we love and miss them! They ARE appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted October 6, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted October 6, 2003 It ceases to amaze me how that we're the "Great Satan" and all of this while all of the while they're using American inventions such as the vehicle, the airplane, electrical systems based upon our design, etc. A friend of mine said he had the best solution to all of this. You call in all of the Middle Eastern leaders who think we're the "Great Satan," and tell them "boys, we don't want to make y'all such big sinner by having to deal with us-it makes us feel bad on your part. So, from here on, we're going to get all of our oil from Texas, Alaska and South America and y'all don't have to deal with us." In closing, I would like to cite Merle Haggard-"If you don't love it, leave it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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