nebula Posted July 18, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted July 18, 2006 What goes around comes around. Do you believe this? If so, why? For you see, if there is no moral lawgiver, then there is no moral law. If there is no moral law, then there is no moral judge. If there is no moral judge, then there is no moral verdict. If there is no moral verdict, then there is no thing (outside force) that rewards good behavior and punishes bad behavior. If you disagree, please explain. If you believe in karma or fate - whee do these things come from - muons? (You get what I mean, hopefully.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero's Fiddle Posted July 18, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 328 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2006 Is murder wrong because God says/has decided that it is wrong or does God say that murder is wrong because it just is wrong? Just in case I messed up the grammar: does God provide the basis of morality through divine command or does that basis exist outside of him? Nothing exists outside of God, but neither is right and wrong arbitrary. God's character includes justice, love, holiness, etc, and we are made in the image of God. His character determines what is right and wrong, and He is the same yesterday, today, forever, and through eternity past. (This is strange... I posted this AFTER the post that is now below mine .) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RND Posted July 18, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 122 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/08/1962 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Before the Ten Commandments were written in stone, was murder immoral? What about adultery? Idolitry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted July 18, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2006 Hey nebula ^^ Is murder wrong because God says/has decided that it is wrong or does God say that murder is wrong because it just is wrong? Just in case I messed up the grammar: does God provide the basis of morality through divine command or does that basis exist outside of him? How can something "just be wrong". What is the source of this. What is the ultimate cause of this "wrongness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gekko Posted July 18, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2006 Before the Ten Commandments were written in stone, was murder immoral? What about adultery? Idolitry? yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted July 19, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2006 "Who art thou, O man, who repliest against God?" Or perhaps you feel the creature orders the Creator? The kids the parents? The criminals the cops? The students the teachers? the players the coach? Leapin' Lizards, windbaggery's on the rise again. http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero's Fiddle Posted July 19, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 328 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2006 windbaggery Nooooooo! Not windbaggery! Anything but windbaggery! Oh please, please, spare us the windbaggery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopedancer92 Posted July 19, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 48 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/27/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2006 oh my goodness.... that's confusing... i used to believe that... but i guess not nemore!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted July 19, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted July 19, 2006 How is Karma different from living and dying by the sword or reaping what you sew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 19, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted July 19, 2006 Hey nebula ^^ Is murder wrong because God says/has decided that it is wrong or does God say that murder is wrong because it just is wrong? How is this an answer to the question I asked? (I am asking for what you believe and understand.) Just in case I messed up the grammar: does God provide the basis of morality through divine command or does that basis exist outside of him? You should know what I believe. I'm asking do you believe "what goes around comes around" and if so, what makes it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.jpg.03b9a592ab3fbf402fba028ca0d40a97.thumb.jpg.2258d605d3ad1f34b6effde23d20e7d7.jpg)
Recommended Posts