apothanein kerdos Posted August 11, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Just as there are "Blame America First" liberals there are "Blame the Church First" Christians. I have a problem with both. So much pessimism and church bashing within the Church just doesn't seem right. You must not be a fan of either of the epistles to Corinth then. One point I'd like to make is this: Simply because a particular denomination at any given time in history experiences a drop in membership isn't necessarily indicative of spiritual problems. Who pointed to a drop in membership? If anything, we have seen membership grown...but that is not what I am speaking about at all. I'm saying that the quality of Christianity is growing dim and subsequently, the quantiy of quality Christians is likewise growing small. That is a problem. You need to re-read the OP and all subsequent post, as no one is even complaining about numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rivendell Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 (edited) Hi apothanein kerdos, I did go back and read all the posts as you suggested. I think it was George's, "The Lutheran Church is dying --where it was once thriving -- how did this happen? It was when the Spirit of God was quenched!" that led me to my train of thought. I will defer to you and others here on the matter. I would just like to say I look around and see the Church in a different light. Love, Rivendell Edited August 11, 2006 by Rivendell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted August 11, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Bless you, Rivendell - Cool name BTW! As an individual church, the Lutheran church you interacted with sounds like a thriving community. But as a whole - globally - are they impacting the world at all, impacting the Church at all? That's what was meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeilanS Posted August 14, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,763 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/23/1990 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I don't believe that Christianity will truly die. If the world manages to chance all our standards, forces us to conform or to seperate ourselves, then perhaps. However there will still be Christians who speak out and try to help. Perhaps less and less in America, but if so, we will thrive in other countries. I don't belive that God's church will ever fall. Our impact on society may be lessened, but how much further can the impact we have just by being here sink. We've become intolerant zealots in societies eyes already. What we can continue to do is touch people one heart at a time. Any Christian who shows anyone else love, mentions God is planting a seed that God can grow. The church as a unified body might lose it's effect on society, but the actions of the individual Christian will always make a difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyGunivere Posted August 21, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 454 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/19/1985 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I agree......America and Christianity are basically going into 2 opposite directions beginning with Christianity being removed from schools, places of interest and such....Things that were originally started by the Christianity movement when America was founded on. What's next taking the Guttenberg Bible out? Or changing money to not say "In God We Trust"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrose Posted August 28, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,580 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/13/1960 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I haven't read all the posts so please forgive me if this seems an ignorant conclusion. It may seem for a while that Christianity will become obscure for the most part but in the end times God will pour out forth His Spirit greatly. There will be more Christians coming to Jesus before the end times. There will still be those who become Christians during the end times. But again, God's Spirit will be upon us so greatly we will be used and inspired to spread the Word. Everyone will know of Him before the end of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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