FighterforJC Posted July 18, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/25/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2007 because the same argument has been made to justify homosexual relationships in a Christian context. oh, no it can't. a believer who has submitted to Christ and married another after a divorce can not begin to be compared to a person who says "i'm a believer, so God will bless me in my homosexual relationship". God said marriage is between a man and a woman, He has never allowed for homosexual shacking up, or for that matter, ANY shacking up. even if gay marriage becomes legal, it is still not recognized as marriage in God's eyes. Stay married to that guy. You do NOT have the license to divorce this guy and then remarry. i've been married to mark for nine and a half years. we've been through hell and back together. i've lived through times of severe emotional abuse, poverty, his addictions to porn and meth, and through times of unforgiveness between him and my children. and through it all, i've held to the knowledge that God brought us together for a purpose, and if i bail out when the going gets rough, i'll miss out on the tremendous blessing that God has in store for us.... not to worry, i have no intentions of ever getting a divorce, unless he commits adultry. I'll even take it a step further. If you bail out, it's disobedience to God, whether or not you'll miss out on blessings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I'll even take it a step further. If you bail out, it's disobedience to God, whether or not you'll miss out on blessings. *heavy sigh* yes, it would. but in case you have missed it, i don't generally let the negative things, such as 'that's disobedience, you'll be punished' motivate me to do what's right. my motivation is the positive stuff... you know, like the joy that comes with walking with God, with relying on God, and having faith in God's promise. what a miserable life people must live if the only reason they can come up with for doing what is right is the fear of doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepatocyte Posted July 18, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/08/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2007 I'll even take it a step further. If you bail out, it's disobedience to God, whether or not you'll miss out on blessings. *heavy sigh* yes, it would. but in case you have missed it, i don't generally let the negative things, such as 'that's disobedience, you'll be punished' motivate me to do what's right. my motivation is the positive stuff... you know, like the joy that comes with walking with God, with relying on God, and having faith in God's promise. what a miserable life people must live if the only reason they can come up with for doing what is right is the fear of doing it wrong. I don't think fear is an illegitimate excuse...we all try to do it right in God's eyes...and the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom Of course, fear of doing it wrong can lead to legalism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I'll even take it a step further. If you bail out, it's disobedience to God, whether or not you'll miss out on blessings. *heavy sigh* yes, it would. but in case you have missed it, i don't generally let the negative things, such as 'that's disobedience, you'll be punished' motivate me to do what's right. my motivation is the positive stuff... you know, like the joy that comes with walking with God, with relying on God, and having faith in God's promise. what a miserable life people must live if the only reason they can come up with for doing what is right is the fear of doing it wrong. I don't think fear is an illegitimate excuse...we all try to do it right in God's eyes...and the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom Of course, fear of doing it wrong can lead to legalism... fear of the Lord. uh, would you mean the kind of fear that is "AWE"? because the fear of the Lord does NOT mean being SCARED of Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted July 18, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Yeah it certainly is not clear that remarriage is forbidden in the context of biblical divorce. However, I do think we can agree that a person who commits adultery for example is NOT free to re-marry. The injured party who was divorced biblically is, but not the cheater who will never have a biblical divorce. I don't think the church should bless adultery, which is what it is doing when it marries a guy for example who ran of with another women and now wants to marry her in the church and "start over". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 smalclad, are you saying that someone who cheated on their spouse and ends up divorced is not capable of being reconciled to God? are you saying that the church should condemn that person forever and never extend the kind of grace and forgiveness that God extends? oh wait... i forgot... it sounded like you were saying God doesn't extend grace and forgiveness to someone who has been guilty of adultry. i'm glad you're not God. i'd hate to think that God wouldn't have given ME a chance to start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepatocyte Posted July 18, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/08/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2007 I'll even take it a step further. If you bail out, it's disobedience to God, whether or not you'll miss out on blessings. *heavy sigh* yes, it would. but in case you have missed it, i don't generally let the negative things, such as 'that's disobedience, you'll be punished' motivate me to do what's right. my motivation is the positive stuff... you know, like the joy that comes with walking with God, with relying on God, and having faith in God's promise. what a miserable life people must live if the only reason they can come up with for doing what is right is the fear of doing it wrong. I don't think fear is an illegitimate excuse...we all try to do it right in God's eyes...and the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom Of course, fear of doing it wrong can lead to legalism... fear of the Lord. uh, would you mean the kind of fear that is "AWE"? because the fear of the Lord does NOT mean being SCARED of Him. fear of God? No. fear of doing something wrong in God's eye? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 but that's not what you said... it's ok, i'll let it slide, now that i've pointed out how you worded it. seriously, we should all strive to be obedient to God because we love Him, because we are in awe of Him, and because we want to be more like Him... not because we're scared of the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepatocyte Posted July 18, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/08/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2007 but that's not what you said... it's ok, i'll let it slide, now that i've pointed out how you worded it. seriously, we should all strive to be obedient to God because we love Him, because we are in awe of Him, and because we want to be more like Him... not because we're scared of the punishment. well, i was quoting the bible, just forgot to actually quote it and i figured no one took that as literal pee-in-the-pants scared in context of this discussion, some people might interpret everything strictly just so there's no chance that they'll do wrong in God's eyes, especially since choosing to remain unmarried or getting remarried doesn't necessarily mean you love God any more/less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FighterforJC Posted July 18, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/25/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2007 I'll even take it a step further. If you bail out, it's disobedience to God, whether or not you'll miss out on blessings. Perhaps you should examine this statement in light of the fact that you are advocating, and asking for advice on revenge in another thread. . . First of all, I'm not advocating reveng, 2nd of all, even if I were, it doesn't make my statement false. Glad to know I'm the only hypocrite on these boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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