DonnaPs25 Posted November 6, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 346 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/10/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/25/1964 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Music has always been a passion of mine. I did not come to knowing the Lord until 93ish. I did not give up secular music until about 1999. It was a very hard transition for me, but I felt that the secular music dragged me down. Even if it didnt include foul words, the content was normally based on wordly accepted things, not of God. SOOOO I turned to Christian music. I am SOOOO Thankful for the variety in Christian music, the talent of the many artists and their love and compassion to reach the world with God's love and to help the hurting Christians out there. AND to help us as we praise the Lord of all creation! I love all types of Christian music from Hard rock, to contemporary, praise and worship to Hip hop and even some gospel. I have been to so many concerts where maybe its a screamo artist that was not appealing to me, or someone more mellow than my taste enjoys. But a singer gets up there and opens his Bible and shares w/ the audience about how he overcame a drug addiction (Day of Fire), or overcame a suicide thought when he was younger and how he'll stay til whatever hour it takes to talk to each person in the audience that needs help (like Seventh Day Slumber), or even that they grew up in the church, yet didn't know how to have a real relationship w/ Christ until older (newsboys). Then there are bands like Kutless, Casting Crowns and Disciple who's lyrics glorify our Savior so deeply they can bring me to tears. I also am VERY Thankful for bands who are strong enough to head into the secular music arena and share God's words to an uncaring people...that takes guts. (Skillet, POD, Switchfoot). How can people judge that this gift and talent is not of the Lord?!? I've stayed and met many band members after shows, and they are always humble and gracious and give the Lord ALL the glory and praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allmylove4ugrowsdeeper Posted November 6, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/02/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1969 Share Posted November 6, 2006 1Ti 4:4 Because everything which God has made is good, and nothing is evil, if it is taken with praise: 1Ti 4:5 For it is made holy by the word of God and by prayer. 1Ti 4:6 If you keep these things before the minds of the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, trained in the words of the faith and of the right teaching which has been your guide: 1Ti 4:7 But have nothing to do with unclean and foolish stories. Give yourself training in religion: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelite Posted November 7, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/21/1948 Share Posted November 7, 2006 It is not Christian at all. God is not pleased. Christians should avoid it at all costs. Throw away what you have of it.... burn it even. I have heard and seen some hard metal groups that are so called christian and I can't tell the difference from them and the ones of the world. I don't like either but that is just my opinion. I feel the same way, There is a fine line between good and evil. We are not to imitate the world in all we do and say. The bible says to come out and be separate. 2 Cor. 6:17 - Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. We are to glorify God with holiness. Col. 2: 8 says Beware lest any man rob you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the principles of the world, and not ater Christ. Our music should also be the same, holy and pleasing, glorifying God. I think Hard core music labeled christian rock is a deception. We can reach the young people with music that is honoring Christ in the manner which the Lord would have us to play it. We are new creatures in Christ, we need to die to self daily. YSIC Littlelite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allmylove4ugrowsdeeper Posted November 7, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/02/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1969 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Isa 30:32 As the LORD strikes them again and again, his people will keep time with the music of drums and harps. God himself will fight against the Assyrians. This music mentioned here, is it love songs or war marches? Luk 7:32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace. One group shouts to the other, 'We played wedding music for you, but you wouldn't dance! We sang funeral songs, but you wouldn't cry!' Luk 7:33 John the Baptist came, and he fasted and drank no wine, and you said, 'He has a demon in him!' Luk 7:34 The Son of Man came, and he ate and drank, and you said, 'Look at this man! He is a glutton and wine drinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!' Luk 7:35 God's wisdom, however, is shown to be true by all who accept it." ______________________________________________________ Psa 32:11 You that are righteous, be glad and rejoice because of what the LORD has done. You that obey him, shout for joy! Psa 33:1 All you that are righteous, shout for joy for what the LORD has done; praise him, all you that obey him. Psa 33:3 Sing a new song to him, play the harp with skill, and shout for joy! Psa 68:3 But the righteous are glad and rejoice in his presence; they are happy and shout for joy. Psa 71:23 I will shout for joy as I play for you; with my whole being I will sing because you have saved me. Psa 81:1 Shout for joy to God our defender; sing praise to the God of Jacob! Psa 98:6 Blow trumpets and horns, and shout for joy to the LORD, our king. Psa 149:6 Let them shout aloud as they praise God, with their sharp swords in their hands Isa 12:6 Let everyone who lives in Zion shout and sing! Israel's holy God is great, and he lives among his people." Isa 42:13 The LORD goes out to fight like a warrior; he is ready and eager for battle. He gives a war cry, a battleshout ; he shows his power against his enemies. Isa 44:23 shout for joy, you heavens! shout , deep places of the earth! Shout for joy, mountains, and every tree of the forest! The LORD has shown his greatness by saving his people Israel. sa 49:13 Sing, heavens! shout for joy, earth! Let the mountains burst into song! The LORD will comfort his people; he will have pity on his suffering people. Isa 54:1 Jerusalem, you have been like a childless woman, but now you can sing and shout for joy. Now you will have more children than a woman whose husband never left her. I see a common theme here....SHOUT! Who is anyone to say what type of music is pleasing to God? It is not the instrument or the volume.. it is the HEART behind the worship. Worship in spirit and truth. Legalism is a deadly disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelite Posted November 7, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/21/1948 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Isa 30:32 As the LORD strikes them again and again, his people will keep time with the music of drums and harps. God himself will fight against the Assyrians. This music mentioned here, is it love songs or war marches? Luk 7:32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace. One group shouts to the other, 'We played wedding music for you, but you wouldn't dance! We sang funeral songs, but you wouldn't cry!' Luk 7:33 John the Baptist came, and he fasted and drank no wine, and you said, 'He has a demon in him!' Luk 7:34 The Son of Man came, and he ate and drank, and you said, 'Look at this man! He is a glutton and wine drinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!' Luk 7:35 God's wisdom, however, is shown to be true by all who accept it." ______________________________________________________ Psa 32:11 You that are righteous, be glad and rejoice because of what the LORD has done. You that obey him, shout for joy! Psa 33:1 All you that are righteous, shout for joy for what the LORD has done; praise him, all you that obey him. Psa 33:3 Sing a new song to him, play the harp with skill, and shout for joy! Psa 68:3 But the righteous are glad and rejoice in his presence; they are happy and shout for joy. Psa 71:23 I will shout for joy as I play for you; with my whole being I will sing because you have saved me. Psa 81:1 Shout for joy to God our defender; sing praise to the God of Jacob! Psa 98:6 Blow trumpets and horns, and shout for joy to the LORD, our king. Psa 149:6 Let them shout aloud as they praise God, with their sharp swords in their hands Isa 12:6 Let everyone who lives in Zion shout and sing! Israel's holy God is great, and he lives among his people." Isa 42:13 The LORD goes out to fight like a warrior; he is ready and eager for battle. He gives a war cry, a battleshout ; he shows his power against his enemies. Isa 44:23 shout for joy, you heavens! shout , deep places of the earth! Shout for joy, mountains, and every tree of the forest! The LORD has shown his greatness by saving his people Israel. sa 49:13 Sing, heavens! shout for joy, earth! Let the mountains burst into song! The LORD will comfort his people; he will have pity on his suffering people. Isa 54:1 Jerusalem, you have been like a childless woman, but now you can sing and shout for joy. Now you will have more children than a woman whose husband never left her. I see a common theme here....SHOUT! Who is anyone to say what type of music is pleasing to God? It is not the instrument or the volume.. it is the HEART behind the worship. Worship in spirit and truth. Legalism is a deadly disease. Yes, we are to make a joyful noise unto the Lord, Sing, and praise him, shout, make melody to the Lord, we can do this in a Godly way, we do not have to imitate the world, sometimes scripture is taken out of context. It sounds to me like allmylove4u does not see beyond what has been said. Yes, legalism is a deadly disease, but remember God will not be mocked. YSIC Littlelite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cargohome Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Wow, I'm not realy sure i should comment on this but....... I have been struggling with this topic since I've come to Cali, helping these teens that listen to all sorts of "Christian Music".... and i always come back to this......from a mile away can u tell if it is a Rock concert or a "Christian Rock" concert? And does it realy Glorify God or flesh? Nothing wrong with entertainment, but to call it "Christian" I think is decietful, do we take porn and turn it into "Christian Porn"? Or gambling into "Christian Gambling"? Be honest with yourself and ask yourself do i listen to it to Glorify God or because i like it, and its close to what i listened to before i got saved! Then fine listen to it if u like it but dont say its beacuse it Glorifies God, because inreality u listen to it for your self pleasure!!!! Rachel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyRaven Posted November 8, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,981 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/20/1964 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Wow, I'm not realy sure i should comment on this but....... I have been struggling with this topic since I've come to Cali, helping these teens that listen to all sorts of "Christian Music".... and i always come back to this......from a mile away can u tell if it is a Rock concert or a "Christian Rock" concert? And does it realy Glorify God or flesh? Nothing wrong with entertainment, but to call it "Christian" I think is decietful, do we take porn and turn it into "Christian Porn"? Or gambling into "Christian Gambling"? Be honest with yourself and ask yourself do i listen to it to Glorify God or because i like it, and its close to what i listened to before i got saved! Then fine listen to it if u like it but dont say its beacuse it Glorifies God, because inreality u listen to it for your self pleasure!!!! Rachel You really can't make a parallel between porn and CCM or hardcore CM, because porn is innately sinful, whereas music is not. The contents of the music determine its morality. A more appropriate parallel is "Christian Literature" or "Christian Art", not porno or gambling. You can't make a comparison between apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxboy90 Posted November 8, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/02/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/29/1990 Share Posted November 8, 2006 There are a few songs that are ok...but I cant stand screamo music,It burns my ears off,I cant hear what they are saying and for all I know they could be saying something bad Also on the image of the bands...i have seen some supposed Christian bands that look they were drug up from below (no offense to anyone of course...just my opinion). Seriously, If you are a christian band at least try to look Christian (and act like it of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyRaven Posted November 8, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,981 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/20/1964 Share Posted November 8, 2006 There are a few songs that are ok...but I cant stand screamo music,It burns my ears off,I cant hear what they are saying and for all I know they could be saying something bad Also on the image of the bands...i have seen some supposed Christian bands that look they were drug up from below (no offense to anyone of course...just my opinion). Seriously, If you are a christian band at least try to look Christian (and act like it of course) uh, what does a christian look like? No offense but...unless you can point out specifics and say how they contradict scripture your treading on dangerous ground theologically with a statement like this. Now, I have seen some supposedly Christian bands who were overtly sexual...which is the opposite of modest, which is a violation of scripture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cargohome Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Wow, I'm not realy sure i should comment on this but....... I have been struggling with this topic since I've come to Cali, helping these teens that listen to all sorts of "Christian Music".... and i always come back to this......from a mile away can u tell if it is a Rock concert or a "Christian Rock" concert? And does it realy Glorify God or flesh? Nothing wrong with entertainment, but to call it "Christian" I think is decietful, do we take porn and turn it into "Christian Porn"? Or gambling into "Christian Gambling"? Be honest with yourself and ask yourself do i listen to it to Glorify God or because i like it, and its close to what i listened to before i got saved! Then fine listen to it if u like it but dont say its beacuse it Glorifies God, because inreality u listen to it for your self pleasure!!!! Rachel You really can't make a parallel between porn and CCM or hardcore CM, because porn is innately sinful, whereas music is not. The contents of the music determine its morality. A more appropriate parallel is "Christian Literature" or "Christian Art", not porno or gambling. You can't make a comparison between apples and oranges. Oh but i can parallel porn and gambling with music, because like i said before.... it is for entertainment...and is addicting like porno and gambling. Yes addicting.....I was addicted to music! There is way more to it than just words.... it goes to the soul! Anyway, I knew i wouldn't be popular with this opinion...ahhh well!!! Rachel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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