No Such Thing as a 'Perfect Temperature'

[Oh Hamburgers!]

Grace to you,

Thanks for the sunny side of things Lorax.

Seriously though if what you are saying is true, most Global Warming theorists ought to be happy. They feel that mankind is an organism that needs to die off anyway.

Or at least mankind in the Western world.

At the base root of the argument is the Western way of life.

Peace,

Dave

I don't think that most global warming theorists are driven to support the idea of warming because they have angst against the human race... I think they are driven because they want people to become aware of the situation and protect themselves!

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Burgers,

To get at the answer to this question logically we must look at the solution of those claiming they want to help you," protect yourself."

The answer usually starts and ends with the U.S. and great economic pain.

Peace,

Dave

[Southerner]

You know none of these global warming experts have taken into account the increase in the suns surface luminousity and how it affects earths atmosphere. And here we are and it is mainly the poor people that are getting the blame

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Southerner,

Brother you are spot on and it will be the poor people that will bear the economic brunt as well.

All so people with pangs of guilt over the West's wealth and prosperity can fell good about themselves.

Peace,

Dave

[Oh Hamburgers!]

I must admit I don't follow. Pollution regulations would affect industry more than anything, because industrial buildings are usually the ones that pollute the most. How would the poor be affected the most? I can understand that poor companies would have a harder time paying for improvements, but it is mostly the multi-industry corporations that are producing the most pollution in the first place!

[Marnie]

I must admit I don't follow. Pollution regulations would affect industry more than anything, because industrial buildings are usually the ones that pollute the most. How would the poor be affected the most? I can understand that poor companies would have a harder time paying for improvements, but it is mostly the multi-industry corporations that are producing the most pollution in the first place!

As businesses have to meet certain regulations, the cost of their goods and services go up, to pay for those new regulations. These additional costs are then passed on to the consumer in the form of higher price tags. The poor are hit the hardest because they can least afford the increased price. Simple economics. Just check out how much the various anti-pollution gear installed in car engines has jacked up the price of a new car. Or how about the despicable "tire disposal tax" has burdened a person trying to get rid of an old tire. Or the same goes for the "battery disposal tax." Gimme a break.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

How will it affect the poor?

Well, you can get a light bulb at Wal Mart for like $.97. Yet those flourescent ones that the Politicians and Greenies want you to buy are like $4.00. When the Government mandates the use of items such as these. The cost on the poor increases radically. Mind you a flourescent light bulb lasts like 100 times longer. Yet tell that to a poor couple with 4 kids living paycheck to paycheck. Maybe some Latino Immigrants who can ill afford food week to week? With a Bank of Amerexico debt that ooriginated as a $500.00 credit and has grown to over $1,500.00 because of the unpaid fee's. Now that they are enslaved to the Bank of Amerexico for like $100.00 a month. That $4.00 difference could mean a world of pain having to pay. Better to light a candle at that point. Of course the resulting fumes would contain CO2 and this could cause a problem because they can't afford pollution credits to assuage their sins or even to quell their pangs of guilt.

There are some Latinos in my Congregation with real world problems like these. CO2 a natural gas is the least of their worry's. They have problems working two and three jobs paying for their rent, let alone a four dollar lightbulb. Some can't afford food. Of course the Lord has spoken of those who do not practice Mercy and steal a mans millstone. Not too mention paying wages that are not fair to the widow and the poor for reaping ones field.

If we punish big business for an unproven theory. They will pass the costs along to those less fortunate. They will also be less profitable. Yet America is Blessed with abundance. When our economy suffers due to regulation so does the world. We are a bastion of Freedom and pprosperity. That's the point though. Some folks rather than feeling blessed and unburdening someone elses burdens with this Blessing, feel guilty about their own prosperity. Rather than doing something about it. They want to end prosperity so that all things are equal. Yet God has told us that we will always have the poor. God can deliver poor folks through Blessing others. It is His own Law. That is why the Jews had a Law concerning such matters and that is why they were supposed to practice a Jubilee year every seventh year. it is also why they went into Judgment for not practiicing it.

God told them that they would serve those Jubilee's in bondage for not practicing them Obediently and for not Loving Mercy more than sacrifice.

Is it merciful to burden the poor while the rich sacrifice with carbon offsets? Meanwhile the while the rich carries on his way of life mostly undisturbed and feeling absolved. It sounds strangely familiar to me and Jesus Christ rebuked it.

Peace,

Dave

[Tubal-Cain]

You know none of these global warming experts have taken into account the increase in the suns surface luminousity and how it affects earths atmosphere.

Actually they have and have found it does not account for the rise in temperature.

[Gerioke]

You know none of these global warming experts have taken into account the increase in the suns surface luminousity and how it affects earths atmosphere.

Actually they have and have found it does not account for the rise in temperature.

Maybe the rise in temperature is due to all the hot air coming out of these experts.

[Tubal-Cain]

I recall many studies showing that allowing global warming to continue unabated would harm the economy. "The Stern report urged world governments to take action against global warming or the global economy could shrink by 20%." "A greenhouse gas conference organised by the reinsurer, Swiss Re, has been discussing a report backed by nearly 300 financial institutions, which argued that global warming now poses a "serious threat" to the world economy." The second article notes that global warming would end up costing $150 billion a year, or five times the earnings of the entire population of Nigeria.