IreneM Posted August 16, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 700 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2007 this is to sad and all this unity at the cost of doctrine is now coming back to bit us TESTING THE FAITH Bishop urges Christians to call God 'Allah' Catholic leader believes it would help ease tensions between religions Posted: August 15, 2007 3:28 p.m. Eastern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted August 16, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2007 Shalom, "If a Muslim says, "Your God and our God is the same," either he does not understand who Allah and Christ really are, or he intentionally glosses over the deep-rooted differences." (Who Is Allah In Islam?, Abd-Al Masih, Villach, Austria, Light of Life, 1985, p. 36.) http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-refuted.htm Allah is responsible for the origin of Christianity: The Qur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IreneM Posted August 16, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 700 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 16, 2007 you may believe this stement but any real christian will NOT this is just plain wrong and to even suggest it is tempting the Holy God HE SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR US not make a last minute switch this post of yours is a slap in the fact to christians IreneM Allah is responsible for the origin of Christianity: The Qur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IreneM Posted August 16, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 700 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 16, 2007 let me also add this There are many out there willing to give in to the muslems I am not and unity at the cost of doctrine leads to stuff like this and that Priest saying we should call God Allah is going to face the wrath of God if he does not repent muslem god and my God are not one and the same IreneM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted August 16, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2007 you may believe this stement but any real christian will NOT this is just plain wrong and to even suggest it is tempting the Holy God HE SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR US not make a last minute switch this post of yours is a slap in the fact to christians IreneM Shalom Irene, Hmmm, somebody didn't READ the post. You've totally misread and misinterpreted the post. Slow down and READ the post and the source before you jump in with both feet, totally wrong. 1) The post is what the MUSLIMS teach and this article refutes it. Please, don't assume. Read. 2) The website is "Islam refuted." Do you understand what that means? 3) The excerpt states that IF a Muslim says that Allah and Messiah are the same, he does NOT have the true understanding of each. Do you know what that means? 4) The next part is exposing what Muslims say about Jesus at the Cross, not that it's true. Do you understand now? You can apologize now, to a REAL Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IreneM Posted August 16, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 700 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 16, 2007 my apologies !!! I get upset when some one tells me that I need to do something for unitys sake or tell me that I just don't understand or I don't see the real picture etc I read the whole post and I thought it was what you believed in here you come up against alot of unity at the oost of doctrine and you come up against what the catholic church says is right so just believe it I assumed (my mistake) that you also believe what was posted so yes I apologize to you you posted it off another site and that is done alot in here usually to back up what some one believes and so yes it was my mistake In Christ Irene M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted August 16, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2007 my apologies !!! I get upset when some one tells me that I need to do something for unitys sake or tell me that I just don't understand or I don't see the real picture etc I read the whole post and I thought it was what you believed in here you come up against alot of unity at the oost of doctrine and you come up against what the catholic church says is right so just believe it I assumed (my mistake) that you also believe what was posted so yes I apologize to you you posted it off another site and that is done alot in here usually to back up what some one believes and so yes it was my mistake In Christ Irene M Shalom Irene, Apology accepted. I apologize as well, I should have added some commentary to the quotes, as I thought they were pretty clear, and I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansasdad Posted August 16, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,227 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1964 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Just a point of clarification. This was one persons comment, not the teaching of the church. I understand part of what he is saying, We all try to put God in a box, and in part we do this through a name. So in a very real sense the name we use is meaningless. Two people can use the same name and have totally different concepts associated. I think this is where this Bishop is flawed in his thinking. This kind of "doublespeak" would only lead to confusion. God Bless, K.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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