AllforJesustheLord Posted June 17, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 557 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1976 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Please start being straight forward with each other, and not beating around the bush, try to make things clear, and understanding for everyone, so no one will not understand what is being said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforJesustheLord Posted June 17, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 557 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1976 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Please tell me, do the JW believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, do they also see the Isaiah says He is the Father debar, the means the Father who is separated from Himself. Father Debar is what is said in Hebrew, in Isaiah, where the scripture says, eternal Father,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted June 17, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,550 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/15/1943 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Heres some facts I found out about JW's .... What do the Jehovah's Witnesses Teach? 1. There is one God in one person 2. There is no Trinity 3. The Holy Spirit is a force, not alive 4. The Holy Spirit is God's impersonal active force 5. Jehovah's first creation was his 'only-begotten Son'. . . was used by Jehovah in creating all other things" 6. Jesus was Michael the archangel who became a man 7. Jesus was only a perfect man, not God in flesh 8. Jesus did not rise from the dead in his physical body 9. Jesus was raised "not a human creature, but a spirit." 10. Jesus did not die on a cross but on a stake 11. Jesus returned to earth, invisibly, in 1914. 12. Jesus' ransom sacrifice did not include Adam 13. Their church is the self-proclaimed prophet of God 14. They claim to be the only channel of God's truth 15. Only their church members will be saved 16. Good works are necessary for salvation 17. The soul ceases to exist after death 18. There is no hell of fire where the wicked are punished 19. Only 144,000 Jehovah's Witness go to heaven 20. Blood transfusions are a sin 21. The Cross is a pagan symbol and should not be used 22. Salvation is by faith and what you do 23. It is possible to lose your salvation 24. The universe is billions of years old 25. Each of the 6 creative days of God in Genesis 1, was 7000 years long. Therefore, Man was created toward the end of 42,000 years of earth's preparation 26. They also refuse to vote, salute the flag, sing the "Star Spangled Banner," or celebrate Christmas or birthdays. They are not allowed to serve in the armed forces. There are four requirements for salvation as taught by JW There are four requirements for salvation as taught by the Watchtower magazine of Feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. One of them deals with the Watchtower organization. 1. Jesus Christ identified a first requirement when he said in prayer to his Father: "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." (John 17:3) Knowledge of God and of Jesus Christ includes knowledge of God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamjane Posted June 17, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1983 Share Posted June 17, 2004 thanks for this information! i'm excited about looking into it all tomorrow. one of my classmates over the past few years was JW, and we'd witness to each other quite a bit. there were a few times that the enemy almost made the JW stuff sound convincing, until i prayed and studied the word. in Christ, pam :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforJesustheLord Posted June 18, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 557 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1976 Share Posted June 18, 2004 They said this, Jesus did not rise from the dead in his physical body. Do they believe He rose spiritually, instead of physically, but that means they do not believe the good news if they do not receive the resurrection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ReflectionsofHim Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 I am Danny Haszard Bangor Maine usa Ex Jehovah's Witness X 33 years 3rd generation.They are NOT just another religion! They truly are 'predatory wolves in sheep's clothing'[MT 7:15]They are not just Bogus false prophets, They are a high demand/controling abusive cult. I have much testimony,you can visit my home page; www.DannyHaszard.com Amen come Lord Jesus,because he did not come in 1914 like the watchtower proclaims! My brother left his walk with Jesus 32 years ago just 3 weeks before going into seminary to be a minister. He met a girl, she was/is JW, he fell head over heels in love, joined JW, says he's an "ordained minister", and I've only spoken to him once in all these years. I miss him. I hate that cult and I know my brother's name has been taken out of the Book of Life and nothing will change my mind about this. He publically renounced Jesus saying he was wrong about Him being the Savior and that He was only a prophet. Please pray for him...his name is Gary Walker. Love through JESUS, Ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1981 Share Posted June 23, 2004 They said this, Jesus did not rise from the dead in his physical body. Do they believe He rose spiritually, instead of physically, but that means they do not believe the good news if they do not receive the resurrection. You sure about that? I use to be a JW, and I never heard such thing. Anyways, JW read the scriptures and in their minds they see all their teachings more reasonable than other religions, just like you find your teachings more reasonable than JW's. And since the bible is too vague, there is no way to tell if the JW are right, or someone else is right; all there is out there is opinions(and sadly this is what your God judges people on, opinions). And about their bible being translated, I bet they think they did a good job with their translation, just like King James thinks he did a good translation. And the only way to find out is to learn Greek and/or Hebrew and do the translation for oneself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew007 Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 614 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2004 All I have to say is that its SO SAD that they are deceiving SO many people. They are very dedicated in the street ministry they do door-to-door. I blame myself for so many being deceived. We as Chirstians are SO lazy! We need to get out there and do what they are doing. Walking the streets and knocking on doors! We need to become as dedicated as they are, for we know the TRUTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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