Guest abbajesus Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Editor's note: General Booth treated alcoholism with vegetarian diet.. and found that this treatment severed the meat-alcohol chemical marriage. His success spread the SA around the world. ) GENERAL BRAMWELL BOOTH OF THE SALVATION ARMY ON VEGETARIAN DIET: These passages are taken from a pamphlet written by General Bramwell Booth, former director General of the Salvation Army, and a son of founder General William Booth. "Here are some of my reasons for doing so (becoming vegetarian): 1. Because I have myself tried a vegetarian diet with the greatest benefit having been for more than 10 years at l time a strict vegetarian. 2. Because according to the Bible God originally intended the food for humans to be vegetarian. (here he quotes Genesis 1:29 "Behold I have given you herb yielding seed. To you it shall be for food.") 3. Because a vegetarian diet is favourable to purity, to chastity,and to perfect control of the appetites and passions which are often a source of great temptation, especially to the young. (http://www.notmilk.com) 4. Because a vegetarian diet is favourable to robust health and strength. With very few exceptions, and these only confirmed invalids, I believe the people would be stronger.... 5. Because tens of thousands of our poor people (could save money)... 6. Because a vegetarian diet of wheat, oatmeal and other grains, lentils, peas, beans, nuts and similr food is more than ten times as economical as a flesh diet. Meat contains half its weight in water which has to be paid for as though it were meat. A vegetarian diet, even if we allow cheese, butter and milk will only cost about a quarter as much as a mixed diet of flesh and vegetables. 7. Because a vegetarian diet would stop the enormous waste of all kinds of animal food. 8. Because a vegetarian diet is a great protection against our drinking (this belief of General Booth has been upheld by modern biochemistry research about the relationship of meat and alcohol).... 9. Because a vegetarian diet is favorable to industry and hard work... 10. Because it is proved that life, health, and happiness are all favoroued by a vegetarian diet.** 11. I favour a vegetarian diet because the digestive organs of humans are not well adapted to the use of flesh.... 12. Because it is very difficult.. especially in hot weather and warm climates to keep flesh food sweet long enough to cool and eat it and a great deal of meat is eaten after it has begun to decay... 13. Because a great deal of the flesh meat which is supplied for human food is already diseased, and because it is nearly impossible to be sure than any flesh is quite free from the germs of disease. Much common meat, which is often that of old animals, is well known to be sold to the butchers because the animals are sick, or unhealthy. And the best meat is nearly always the flesh meat of young animals who are fattened and killed before the germs of many diseases have had time to develop so as to show themselves. So that many animals re killed, which though believed to be healthy, are really diseased. This is especially the case with calves for veal, young bullocks for beef and with lambs and young pigs. 14. Because I believe that the great increase in consumption and cancer during the last hundred years has been caused by the great increase in the use of animal food, and that a strict vegetarian diet would greatly help to ward off these most terrible and 'incurable' diseases. 15. Because I believe that a flesh diet brings on many very painful diseases, which though not perhaps immediately dangerous to life cause much suffering and loss. I mean such complaints as eczema, constipation, piles, worms, dysentery, severe heaches and the like. A vegetarian would do much to relieve if not cure them. 16 Because of the awful cruelty and terror to which tens of thousands (now billions)of animals killed for human food are subjected in traveling long distance by ship and rail and road to the slaughterhouses of the world. God disapproves of all cruelty whether to man or beast. 17.Because of the terrible cruelties practised for killing animals in many slaughter houses. The whole busines of killing is cruel.. even when it is done with care, and we know that in the case of millions of creatures it is done with very little care. Ten thousand pigs are killed for food every hour in Europe alone. (Now Oscar Mayer kills 1100 pigs an hour at their Madison Wisconsin plant.) 18. Because the occupation of slaughtering animals is brutalising to those who are required to do the work. "The highest sentiments of humane men" says a certain writer, and I agree with him, "revolt at the cruelty, the degrading sights, the distressing cries, the perpetual bloodshed, and all the attendant horrors which must surround the transit and slaughter of suffering creatures." * 19. Because a flesh diet is not necessary to hard work. A great part of the work of the world is done by animals which subsist on vegetable food.. namely, horses, mules, camels, oxen, etc. I believe this matter is well worthy the serious consideration of Christian leaders. It has an important bearing not only on their own health and happiness but upon their influence among the people, as men and women who are free from the bondage of that selfish gratification which so often afflicts the professed servants of Christ. Let us remember the Apostle's direction: 'Whether ye eat or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.' " (published by the LVS 53 Marloes Rd. Kensington London UK W8) (We copied from an old pamphlet.. to have the full text write or webvisit the London Vegetarian Society) originally reprinted by the London Vegetarian Society Most Biblical scholars believe Jesus was vegetarian Bible quotes on vegetarian diet 1. Thou Shalt Not Kill (not asterisked with exceptions) (kill no animal.. eat no animal) 2. Feed The Hungry (an orchard yields 450 times as much food per acre as a cruel slaughterhouse) 3. Isaiah: I delight not in your blood sacrifices 4. Genesis 1 29 Behold I have given you herb yielding seed.. to you it shall be for food 5. Daniel 1 Daniel was a vegetarian and his health was better than that of nonvegetarians 6. Isaiah 65: The lion shall lie down with the lamb.. they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord. * British juries for a time would not allow butchers to sit in judgment of others. It was felt their jobs brutalized them. ** Now some life insurance companies give discounts to vegetarians.. based on fewer incidences of heart disease, cancer, food poisoning, diabetes, kidney dysfunction, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted March 9, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted March 9, 2004 AbbaJesus, This is roughly the fourth cross-posted message concerning "Christian Vegetarianism." While I have no problem at all with your personal convictions, and I think that your promotion of a heathly way of living is comendable, I wonder what your goal here is? Are you just here to promote a healthy lifestyle, or are you trying to win converts to vegetarianism? I'm just curious. Although I disagree with more than a few of your claims concerning vegetarianism, I do commend you for your dedication to this way of living. Some of might take issue with you if they feel you are condemning them for eating meat. That's all. Otherwise, welcome to the boards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesusson Posted March 9, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 436 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/08/1971 Share Posted March 9, 2004 That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 G-man this guy is grossly misrepresenting scripture. I couldn't care less if he's vegan or not....but this twisting of scriptures and his "hit and run" posting tactics are disturbing. This is a pattern in every post that has come from AJ You know...I respect every other person here...but I want to be the first to ask that this person gets a swift boot and every single post deleted. He/she/it's got an agenda and not interested in dialogue. :suspect: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GymRose Posted March 9, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 862 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2004 I disagree that vegetarianism is even healthy. I was vegitarian for approx 9 months after seeing a sheep disection for agriculture at my high school. I did have someone quote several scriptures to me to show me I should eat meat. One stuck with me, don't pull me up on context here please cause I don't know it it was said right or not but this guy said to me about the verse where God say do not call unclean what i have called clean. Yod you seem to have a good knowledge of scripture, you may know what I am talking about. Anyways I got extreemly anemic and very ill until I started eating meat again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesusson Posted March 9, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 436 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/08/1971 Share Posted March 9, 2004 G-man this guy is grossly misrepresenting scripture. I couldn't care less if he's vegan or not....but this twisting of scriptures and his "hit and run" posting tactics are disturbing. This is a pattern in every post that has come from AJ You know...I respect every other person here...but I want to be the first to ask that this person gets a swift boot and every single post deleted. He/she/it's got an agenda and not interested in dialogue. :suspect: I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliGuy4Christ Posted March 9, 2004 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/02/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2004 I was a vegetarian for a little while. I felt totally healthy and had tons of energy (more than I do when I eat meat) but I got really skinny pretty quick so I eat meat again. It tastes a lot better, but I feel more sluggish during the day. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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