Summary of Revelation

[antiaging]

Summary of my understanding of Revelation:

First 3 chapters are letters to the churches in Asia telling them what is wrong with them and what they need to correct.

Chapter 4 starts a whole new discourse about what will happen in the future.

Jesus lived without sin and offered Himself a sacrifice for mankind so He prevailed and beat Satan, and He has the right to open the book with the 7 seals. These are the things that will happen on the last 7 years till the end of the age when Jesus returns.

1st seal:

The future evil leader, the antichrist goes forth to conquer the world militarily.

2nd seal:

The leading general of the coquering army starts the war.

3rd seal:

Food is scarce as a result of the war, there is starvation.

4th seal:

Shows that the war is over a 4th of the earth; many will die and go to hell in the war and famine caused by the war.

5th seal:

The antichrist and his servants will kill many saints. The saints will pray for God to take revenge.

6th seal:

Jesus returns, at the end of the 7 years, to take over the world by force. The evil doers are afraid and will hide themselves.

Chapter 7 a completely new vision. 144,000 Jews of Israel will become Christians before the punishments of God are poured out on the Earth.

Chapter 8: God starts to punish the people of the Earth for their sins as the 7 trumpets blow.

Seems like a meteorite shower causing fires. Seems like a big meteorite or a comet hits the sea and poisons the water killing many people.

Sun partially blocked possibly by large dust cloud caused by the comet or meteorite or asteroid--whatever it will be.

An army of demons is released, like locusts, that will hurt the unsaved men with great pain.-- a sting like a scorpion

Another army of either demons or men making war will cause many men to be killed by fire and smoke.

Men still don't stop sinning; so more punishments will come.

Rev. chapter 10

Jesus returns at the 7th trumpet. That is when the saints will be resurected and the living saints will rise with them to meet Jesus in the air at His return--This is spoken of by Paul; look up last trump

chap. 11

Jerusalem is conquered by the antichrist and his followers and they will walk in Jerusalem for 42 months.

That happens 3.5 years before the end when Jesus comes back.

Two prophets of God testify against the antichrist during the 3.5 years and they speak out punishments on the people for their sins and the punishments happen to men. They will be killed shortly before the end and lie in the street 3 days. Then they will come back to life and be resurected. Then the end comes before Jesus returns.

12

Israel brings forth the Messiah Jesus. Satan was waiting to kill Him. Israel will flee into the wilderness when the antichrist takes over Jerusalem 3.5 years from the end. Satan and his devils will no longer be allowed to enter into heaven to accuse the saints falsely like they did to Job in the old testament. Satan and his devils are denied access to heaven and must stay on the earth. Satan makes war against the Jews that are saved Christians.

13

The beast from the sea; the antichrist the last evil ruler

His kingdom will be like medo persia, large, like greece cunning, he will speak with authority like the babylonian king, Satan will give the antichrist his power.

Another man will cause the world to worship the antichrist and cause a mark or a number or a name to be needed by law in order to buy and sell.

14 Brief vision of the 144,000 Jews that became christians standing on mount Sion.

Another vision:

Warnings given to the Earth that if any worship the antichrist he will be tormented forever in fire.

rev. 14:15,16 Jesus comes and raptures up the saints to meet Him in the air. rev. 14:17-20 Armageddon ---The armies of the Earth are slain in the valley of Megiddo

15 AND 16

The last punishments of God, the vials

This happens mostly during the last 3.5 years.

Sores on the men that worship the antichrist, the sea becomes like blood- either a large amount of iron oxide in the water are a reference to all on the sea dying, rivers and fountains of water become blood. --Possibly a large amount of iron oxide (rust) in the water from a large amount of iron in the sea from the asteroid that hit. (Iron oxide in the hemoglobin is what gives blood the red color)-- or blood being used figuratevely to indicate death. Men scorched with fire and heat and in pain with darkness.

Men still will not repent of their evil.

Euphrates river is dried up so that the armies from the East can come to the valley of Megiddo for armageddon to happen. Devils go out to bring the armies there. Great earthquake and great hail causing destruction. This is shortly before Jesus returns.

A new vision:

It is about a false religion, the woman or harlot. It is the babylonian mystery religion, baal worship. It rules over 7 kingdoms which oppress Israel. Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo persia, Greece, are the 5 that are fallen. Rome is the one that is. Revived Rome made of 10 nations from the european union will be the 7th. The form of Baal worship that rules in Rome now, will rule over the 7th kingdom. See the Two Bablylons by Hislop on Google. Rome is the city that ruled over the kings of the Earth at the time of the writing. He refers to Rome as Babylon, a spiritual comparison. The 10 nations will destroy the religion and the city of Rome, and the antichrist will set himself to be worshipped in the city of Jerusalem for the last 3.5 years.

18

The destruction of Rome in one hour, possibly by a nuclear bomb.

Another vision:

God is praised for destroying the Roman form of Baal worship which killed many of the saints.

Marriage supper of the lamb, possibly happening after the saints are raptured up at Jesus' return, maybe before armageddon maybe after it.

Jesus returns with an army of angels and the saints to take over the world by force at amageddon.

19

Satan is bound a thousand years. There will be a thousand years of peace on the Earth with Jesus and His saints ruling the world.

It seems like some people that never heard of Jesus, and they helped saints in their life times will be allowed to enter the thousand year reign. See the parable of the sheep separated from the goats in the gospels.

Satan will be let loose to deceive whoever can be deceived as a final test of men near the end of the thousand years. The deceived men will gather to attack the saints and will be destroyed by fire.

The devil is cast into the lake of fire to suffer forever. I suppose all of the demons go there.

The unsaved dead are resurrected to be judged out of the books about their deeds. Whoever is not found in the book of life goes into the lake of fire to be tormented forever. Men are judged according to the words of the New Testament.

21

There is a new sky and a new Earth, no more sea.

no more sorrow, nor tears nor pain nor death for the saints.

A new Jerusalem 1500 miles square and high. Streets of gold, pearly gates bright with walls having precious stones and full of mansions. That is where the saved saints will live, happy forever.

The testimony is ended.

[Reuben Hick]

Summary of my understanding of Revelation:

Satan is bound a thousand years. There will be a thousand years of peace on the Earth with Jesus and His saints ruling the world.

Hmm... How exactly does any of that square with the gospel?

What you are suggesting is that people are essentially posse non Peccare (able not to sin) and sin only because they are puppets of Satan. Yet the Bible plainly teaches that everyone is non posse non Peccare (I cannot not sin). If everyone is magically transformed to be without a sin nature, what is the point of government and the need for anyone to "rule" ? (public works can and have been accomplished throught the mechanism of private incorporation).

If your doctrine does NOT teach that Satan is the cause of our sin (thereby relieving us of any moral responsibility), then what do we do with all of those passages in Scripture that define the nature of man to be constantly at war with God?

Personally, I don't think that this fiction of World Peace because Satan is bound has been thought out very well, it seems to be the product of semi-literate romanticists.

FWIW, the orthodox understanding of Satan being bound isn't this "world peace" folly that has zero Scriptural support, but with the reason why plainly stated in Rev 20:3 "...so that he should deceive the nations no more..." Review Mark 3:23-27 where Christ foreshadows the Great Commission by saying that in order for the gospel to be spread to the world, the "strong man must be bound". Ask yourself why the gospel didn't reach anyone prior to the Great Commision? Mark 16:17-18 shows that the apostles were given power to bind demons. (Mt 16:19;18:18). The world did not receive the gospel because the Deceiver prevented them from hearing the Word. (2 Co 4:4) but after a long period of time (roughly the entire length of the church age) Rev 3:3 says that "he must be released for a little while" which I figure is the global apostasy that is ordained to come just before the Last Day.

It seems like some people that never heard of Jesus, and they helped saints in their life times will be allowed to enter the thousand year reign. See the parable of the sheep separated from the goats in the gospels.

What about the parable of the sheep and the goats? How does it differ in the Wheat and the Tares? Where do any of these parables talk about sinners meriting "entry into the thousand year reign"?

Again, this Chiliast's dream of a thousand year reign isn't very well thought out. It seems like a global version of the movie "Highlander". What do we have, Zombies? People can fall off ten story buildings and not die? Also, the idea that sinners who hate God and know that they will ultimately spend eternity in Hell are reproducing an army yet are not doing anything to combat God or thwart His alleged thousand year reign. Satan has spent his entire temporal existence fighting God, yet man, who hates God with a total passion; man who loves his sin more than anything; man who can't please God nor even care to, is somehow going to be some docile benign entity who can't die?

I would love to see how the Free Will Dispensationalists explain thousand years of pacificism when ALL of human history is nothing but "each man doing what is right in his own eyes." wars, and violent strife.

Satan will be let loose to deceive whoever can be deceived as a final test of men near the end of the thousand years. The deceived men will gather to attack the saints and will be destroyed by fire.

The devil is cast into the lake of fire to suffer forever. I suppose all of the demons go there.

The unsaved dead are resurrected to be judged out of the books about their deeds. Whoever is not found in the book of life goes into the lake of fire to be tormented forever. Men are judged according to the words of the New Testament.

How about, men are judged on account of their sin? That one seems to have a Scriptural backing.

There is a new sky and a new Earth, no more sea.

no more sorrow, nor tears nor pain nor death for the saints.

A new Jerusalem 1500 miles square and high. Streets of gold, pearly gates bright with walls having precious stones and full of mansions. That is where the saved saints will live, happy forever.

The testimony is ended.

Another not so well though out scenario. I know, that this is all Dispensationalist Dogma fully explained in a multi-volume set of fictional books, but good grief, do you have any idea of what it is like? Now the greek says "stadioon doodeka chiliadoon", or 12,000 stadia. A stadia is undefined in the sense that we can't really find a good conversion because stadia literally means "a stade or certain measure or distance". The KJV translators figured it related to a stadium or horse race so they said "furlong" which modern English translations guestimate 1400 miles (which eliminates the significance of the number 12 (dodeka) and 1000 (chilias)). So lets not pretend we are being literal here.

Now this building, if it is indeed 1400 miles high would put those standing on the earth in danger of getting hit by still orbiting satellites. IOW, the air is a bit thin there, and flying over 21,000 feet, or five miles up, requires supplemental oxygen. Yet we have this city with an additional 1395 miles in height. There are certain lighting and air control and critical infrastructure problems within a building this size too that is beyond the scope of this post, yet remain. Heck, take a globe and a square stone or something heavy that you can glue to the side of the globe so that it maps out to this 1400x1400x1400 mile wart. Go to a large enough tub that you can float this thing, we will let gravity act as the sun's natural attraction to Earth, and orient the globe in the tub any way you want, and give the globe a spin. Look at how the globe's spin is altered by the heavy wart that unbalances the globe and causes all kinds of vector shifts which would translate out to roughly global cataclysms that would make Noah's flood look like a mere inconvenient shower. Has anyone even considered the material stresses that would exist supporting a building of that size? The mantle of the earth is only so thick, particularly around the Med Sea which is already criss crossed with faults and fissures in the Earth's crust. Isn't a large earthquake supposed to be on the Dispensationalist's time table?

Now I suppose that this all can be answered by the Magic Jesus explanation which is nothing more than a wave of the hand denial of these very serious problems by saying, in effect, that God will change all of the physical laws of the universe to accomodate this thing. Just let that roll around in your head for a moment. I mean, if using the Magic Jesus trick, then the issue of transportation from one end of the building to the other is solved, but it then asks an important question, why even have this city in the first place? If every single problem is solved by just changing all physical laws of the universe, why not just skip the whole thing and be spirit beings rather than implementing a Plan B physical architecture that really serves no purpose other than an attempt to literally materialize an obvious symbol in Revelations?

Does God now have locality? That is, we have God physically cornered in a room somewhere in the building? Are we going to be tucked away in this while the Zombies storm the castle? How many hundreds of miles will the average person be away from a window, possibly spending an eternity locked up like a sailor in the engine room of a submarine that never surfaces?

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