Poindexter Posted October 24, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/26/1948 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Two good old boys get in a fight. Neither one is a Christian. A knife is drawn and the one kills the other. Now the murderer goes to jail and when in jail there is a prison ministry and he gets saved. So now the murderer is heaven bound. But the guy who was murdered had no such last minute chance. He got killed and is now in hell. It does not seem like God to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Two good old boys get in a fight. Neither one is a Christian. A knife is drawn and the one kills the other. Now the murderer goes to jail and when in jail there is a prison ministry and he gets saved. So now the murderer is heaven bound. But the guy who was murdered had no such last minute chance. He got killed and is now in hell. It does not seem like God to me. You sound like a nonbeliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted October 24, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Two good old boys get in a fight. Neither one is a Christian. A knife is drawn and the one kills the other. Now the murderer goes to jail and when in jail there is a prison ministry and he gets saved. So now the murderer is heaven bound. But the guy who was murdered had no such last minute chance. He got killed and is now in hell. It does not seem like God to me. Chances are likely that man who was killed had an opportunity in life to receive the Lord, but didn't take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HIS girl Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Two good old boys get in a fight. Neither one is a Christian. A knife is drawn and the one kills the other. Now the murderer goes to jail and when in jail there is a prison ministry and he gets saved. So now the murderer is heaven bound. But the guy who was murdered had no such last minute chance. He got killed and is now in hell. It does not seem like God to me. Chances are likely that man who was killed had an opportunity in life to receive the Lord, but didn't take it. So true, everyone has opportunities.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherTraveler Posted October 24, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,595 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/12/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 24, 2008 Doesn't sound like God to me either. It sounds like sin, operating in both the fighters, and it costs one his life, and the other his freedom. Then, in captivity, the remainiing sinner repents and gets saved. God did not cause the fight, the sin, nor pull the knife, but He provided salvation to the whosoever will, and as long as we have breath, we have a potential opportunity to come to God. On the cross, both thieves mocked Jesus, at first, but one repented, and the other didn't (or at least there is no record of his doing so), and so one went to paradise, and the other didn't. Mercy was available to both, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poindexter Posted October 24, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/26/1948 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) Two good old boys get in a fight. Neither one is a Christian. A knife is drawn and the one kills the other. Now the murderer goes to jail and when in jail there is a prison ministry and he gets saved. So now the murderer is heaven bound. But the guy who was murdered had no such last minute chance. He got killed and is now in hell. It does not seem like God to me. You sound like a nonbeliever. A non believer in what? The question involves a salvation issue. What is the line on salvation? Is it purely circumstantial? Edited October 24, 2008 by Poindexter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poindexter Posted October 24, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/26/1948 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Doesn't sound like God to me either. It sounds like sin, operating in both the fighters, and it costs one his life, and the other his freedom. Then, in captivity, the remainiing sinner repents and gets saved. God did not cause the fight, the sin, nor pull the knife, but He provided salvation to the whosoever will, and as long as we have breath, we have a potential opportunity to come to God. On the cross, both thieves mocked Jesus, at first, but one repented, and the other didn't (or at least there is no record of his doing so), and so one went to paradise, and the other didn't. Mercy was available to both, however. The "sounds like God" thing I am getting at is our interpretation of destiny. You go to hell as a victim while a perpetrator gets saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HIS girl Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Every person starts off on a level playing field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poindexter Posted October 24, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/26/1948 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Two good old boys get in a fight. Neither one is a Christian. A knife is drawn and the one kills the other. Now the murderer goes to jail and when in jail there is a prison ministry and he gets saved. So now the murderer is heaven bound. But the guy who was murdered had no such last minute chance. He got killed and is now in hell. It does not seem like God to me. Chances are likely that man who was killed had an opportunity in life to receive the Lord, but didn't take it. That is a philosophical reply. Flip a coin on it. I just do not think physical death is the end of the matter. Although that is what we preach. 1Co 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poindexter Posted October 24, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/26/1948 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Every person starts off on a level playing field... That is true. But then they should end on a level playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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