Guest HIS girl Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I have read this (not in exact words, but same context), Because of evil in the World - we see the Majesty and Goodness of God MORE than if there was no evil present - I had to think about that a few times to let it sink in... BUT then I thought of Heaven - and the absence of evil - we will be LIVING and being completely sustained by God's goodness - we will SEE and be AWARE of His Majesty - no need for evil to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted January 30, 2009 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I have read this (not in exact words, but same context), Because of evil in the World - we see the Majesty and Goodness of God MORE than if there was no evil present - I had to think about that a few times to let it sink in... BUT then I thought of Heaven - and the absence of evil - we will be LIVING and being completely sustained by God's goodness - we will SEE and be AWARE of His Majesty - no need for evil to prove it. At the bottom of your post is a scripture quote....I'm guessing you are familiar with that bible verse. Well, this women, not having been introduced by another, knew that it was Christ speaking to her. I'm guessing we are going to see His majesty and goodness and know it for what it is all by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 BUT then I thought of Heaven - and the absence of evil - we will be LIVING and being completely sustained by God's goodness - we will SEE and be AWARE of His Majesty - no need for evil to prove it. The concept of evil does not exist within the heart of a new born child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustborn Posted January 30, 2009 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 6 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2009 all what is happening on earth is more than what meets the earth. you may be true when you said absence or otherwise of sin does not affect the glory, but what if all what is happening is for that glory's sake ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HIS girl Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 So, I do not agree that in order to see God's goodness fully, we need evil. We do not have to compare God's goodness with anything in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 So, I do not agree that in order to see God's goodness fully, we need evil. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~ angelique ~~ Posted January 30, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 665 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/11/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/24/1968 Share Posted January 30, 2009 This is a good question. Personally, I'm still confused as to why such evil is allowed. :wub: Then, why have to look at it to see God??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HIS girl Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I haven't read a lot on where/how evil came about - there are just TOO many books to read at the moment.... I HAVE read though, that evil is a key factor in using/having "freewill".....(remember, these are not my personal views - I am just discussing what I have read). What I put forth in the original post and now this, I have never come across before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted January 30, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Share Posted January 30, 2009 BUT then I thought of Heaven - and the absence of evil - we will be LIVING and being completely sustained by God's goodness - we will SEE and be AWARE of His Majesty - no need for evil to prove it. The concept of evil does not exist within the heart of a new born child. I beg to differ. It's dormant. It will come out eventually. The child is not aware of evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted January 30, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I haven't read a lot on where/how evil came about - there are just TOO many books to read at the moment.... I HAVE read though, that evil is a key factor in using/having "freewill".....(remember, these are not my personal views - I am just discussing what I have read). What I put forth in the original post and now this, I have never come across before. Isaiah 45 says that God creates evil. The Hebrew word is 'ra'. That sounds scary. To get around the thought that God created evil, we try to say he means calamity, but 'ra' means EVIL. So how can we justify the idea of a Holy God creating moral evil? God created the PRINCIPLE of evil. Not evil deeds, but the moral absolute behind them that defines what evil IS. God created the standard of what is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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