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We disagree, they are all the same battle in parallel teachings, and Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lords eternal spiritual, and it's not changing anytime soon
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I disagree, it's exactly what the bible teaches Jesus returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)
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The Lord will be king over the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem seen in Zechariah 14 where the river of life is flowing from New Jerusalem Yes the day of the Lord has taken place as Zechariah 14:1 clearly teaches, as the Lords last day fire in judgement is seen in Zechariah 14:12, as also shown in 2 Peter 3:10 in the day of the Lord There will be no Millennial Kingdom on this earth as you claim, Jesus returns in fire and final judge.ent, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)
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I Strongly Disagree, the "Day Of The Lord" isn't a thousand years long as you claim, it's short and quick like a thief in the night, sudden destruction (The End) 2 Peter 3:10KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 1 Thessalonians 5:3KJV 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
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Once again we disagree, Revelation 20:1-6 is the foundational claim of a literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth No literal Kingdom on this earth, with mortal humans present is seen in Revelation 20:1-6, it's in the Lords eternal spiritual realm 100%, where no literal time exists No Physical Kingdom No Physical Throne No Mortal Humans
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Thanks for the response, we disagree Satan is currently bound as shown, from one purpose, it is gathering the nations through devils in deception, to the valley of Megiddo for the final battle The battle seen in Revelation chapters 16, 19, 20, are all the same battle, in parallel teachings of the same event The souls seen in Revelation 20:1-6 are physically dead, and they aren't resurrected because that takes place at the second coming last day resurrection The souls live and reign because believers are of the "Living" and not the "Dead"Luke 20:38
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To post the truth of scripture and I'm antisemitic? Stop the false claims in the fake news narrative, read and heed! Jerusalem is the whore, mystery babylon the great of Revelation chapters 17-18
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He that leadeth into captivity into captivity shall they go ???
truth7t7 replied to R. Hartono's topic in Prophecy
Ephesians 6:10-12KJV 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -
Revelation 6:9-11KJV 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
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Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"! "Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth" Matthew 24:23-27KJV 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Revelation 13:13-14KJV 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. Revelation 19:20KJV 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ (Behold, I Make All Things New) 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Revelation 21:1-5KJV 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Matthew 24:29-30KJV 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Malachi 3:2KJV 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: Psalm 46:6KJV 6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted. Psalm 50:3KJV 3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. Psalm 97:5KJV 5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth. Isaiah 66:15KJV 15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. Zechariah 14:12KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. Nahum 1:5-6KJV 5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. 6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him. Revelation 20:9KJV 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
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As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End) Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ, that will never take place (Then Cometh The End) As (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory) Afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many claim (Then Cometh The End) (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory) 1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
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Yes the dead in Christ will be raised, and the living in Christ will be caught up, changed in the twinkling of an eye, death is swallowed up in victory, as the glorified eternal body is received, eternity begins
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The scripture clearly teaches that all will be tested by the Lords last day judgement by fire, yes the human body will be burned up and die, however it will be in the twinkling of an eye The wicked will be caught in this fire for eternity, the lake of fire 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. psalm 50:3KJV 3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. Isaiah 30:33KJV 33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the Lord, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it. Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
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He that leadeth into captivity into captivity shall they go ???
truth7t7 replied to R. Hartono's topic in Prophecy
"Your claim is false" you did not respond twice "After" Sunday 23rd 7:52AM, and my post you reference is Monday the 24th at 11:08AM, neither of those links you provided of your postings are "After" my response on Sunday at 7:52AM -
The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below, The Hour Is Coming (John) 5:28-29KJV 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
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It Is Against Scripture To Claim A Literal Kingdom On This Earth, With Mortal Humans Present, Is Seen In Revelation 20:1-6 Below Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below? 1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom? 2.) Physical Earthly Throne? 3.) Physical Mortal Humans? The Above Claims (Don't Exist) Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ 100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time On This Earth 2 Peter 3:8KJV 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Revelation 20:1-6KJV 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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It's a rapture alright, at the second coming of Jesus Christ, at the last day resurrection (The End)
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The first 5 verse you quote are showing the Kingdom "After" (The Day Of The Lord) takes place, you think verses 12-22 below are non-existant, and man's breath isnt taken from his nostrils? Isaiah chapter 2 and Micah chapter 4 represents the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven and Earth after the day of the Lord, as verse 22 clearly describes man's breath is taken from his nostrils, a parallel teaching of Zechariah 14:12 when men are consumed by the Lords fire as they stand on their feet Isaiah 2:12-22KJV 12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ? Zechariah 14:12 KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
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There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second) death resurrection has no power. 1.) (First) Resurrection To Life 2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death (Revelation) 20:6KJV Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below (John) 5:28-29KJV 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (John) 6:39-40KJV 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (1 Corinthians) 15:21-24KJV 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. The (Last Day) Judgement (John) 12:48KJV 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
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I disagree, the war fought in Ezekiel chapter 39 was fought long ago, the wooden weapons of Shields, Bows, Arrows, Bucklers, Handstaves, And Spears, were burnt in the fire "Long Ago", this isnt a future event seen
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Enoch And Elijah Never Experienced Physical Death Hebrews 11:5KJV 5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Elijah was taken to heaven and never experienced physical death 2 Kings 2:11KJV 11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
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Isaiah chapter 2 and Micah chapter 4 represents the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven and Earth after the day of the Lord, as verse 22 clearly describes man's breath is taken from his nostrils, a parallel teaching of Zechariah 14:12 when men are consumed by the Lords fire as they stand on their feet Isaiah 2:12-22KJV 12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ? Zechariah 14:12 KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
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"Your claim is false" Hebrews 11 says absolutely nothing about Elijah, and it clearly states Enoch was translated that he should not see death Hebrews 11:5KJV 5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Elijah was taken to heaven and never experienced physical death 2 Kings 2:11KJV 11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
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It is my "opinion" that the (Two Witnesses) of Revelation chapter 11 will be Enoch and Elijah who never experienced a physical death, as Hebrews 9:27 below states its appointed unto man once to die? As Revelation 11:7-8 below shows, the (Two Witnesses) will be killed fulfilling death for Enoch/Elijah? Hebrews 9:27KJV 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Revelation 11:7-8KJV 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.