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  1. iamlamad

    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    I think that is was was being prophecies in the throne room.
  2. iamlamad

    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    ANY theory that links or attempts to link the rapture as happening with the 6th seal - is close, but not spot on: He comes and the church is called up just a moment before the 6th seal. Sorry, but the two witnesses testify in the second half of the week. They show up just before the midpoint and die just before the end of the week. Verses 11"4 through 11:13 are a parenthesis.
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    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    As I said, do you really imagine there was real hail in the throne room? No, it was prophetic! God is not going to have an "earthquake" in heaven, as it would then be a "heavenquake" - and heaven does not quake.
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    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    That is VERY easy to explain: that is when God raises the Old Testament saints - on the last day - as Jesus said several times. Many of these will be people from before the flood. It is going to cause an incredible earthquake!
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    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    It may sound nice that the events of the Sun and moon as written in Matthew 24 take place at the 6th seal. Millions now believe this, and call themselves prewrath. All I can say is, the rapture will come BEFORE the 6th seal, but JUST before, and Jesus will escort us back to heaven. He will come again just as shown, AFTER the days of GT, as shown in Rev. 19. This is John's chronology and it is truth. WOW! I have never thought about how big the earthquake would be - I just knew it would be a worldwide earthquake. I very much believe it IS the 6th seal earthquake - and Paul's sudden destruction, caused when God brings together the bodies of the dead in Christs.
  6. iamlamad

    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    It is sure that most of man's works are here on the earth. However, we believers know, we can work for God WHILE on the earth. We can send things forward in time as in transferring things to heaven that can never be destroyed. What ever we do in His will - will remain forever, and cannot be burned. If someone is seldom in His will for their life, most or all of their work will be wood, hay, and stubble. Our reward, as you say, will be on what the fire cannot destroy. We know, therefore, that fire is coming. It seems earth will be cleansed by fire. When He appears, He will set up His kingdom. Therefore to me His coming (Rev. 19 will soon be followed by His kingdom. The judgment of the dead (righteous first) cannot happen until both the kingdom and his appearing takes place: We must not forget Revelation's chronology. In thinking about this, are you talking about the Judgment seat of Christ? Do you think that will not come until after Jesus as set up His kingdom? Many people think it will be during our 7 years in heaven. who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; I think scripture is clear, He is coming first FOR His saints, then latter WITH His saints. I believe this verse is referring to His coming WITH His saints. If so, then it is possible that the Saints who come WITH HIM will have already been judged. the seals are all judgment upon Jerusalem and Israel. Again I disagree. The first seal is the Gospel. Seals 2-4 are Satan's attempts to stop the gospel. Seal 5 are the martyrs of the church age. How we see the seals will determine other beliefs. Your belief on these seals comes from pulling them out of their 1st century context. You cannot end up with truth when you do not allow context to be KING. How could you even imagine that martyrs - those who are murdered because they love Jesus - are some kind of judgment? God is not judging martyrs! I cannot yet buy into the shaking of the heavens as being the ONLY shaking. I see the 7th trumpet as FAR MORE violent than the 6th seal. AS I see it, I am following Revelation's chronology to a T. Suppose I agree that the Hebrew shaking is in fact at the 6th seal. What then follows? What comes next?
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    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    As I said, the bible speaks of water baptism, baptism into the body of Christ, and baptism in the Holy Spirit When Paul wrote that there is ONE baptism, I really don't know which ONE he was referencing. i will ask him when I see him!
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    Just How Close is the RAPTURE?

    My Chronology is John's chronology. Are you standing HIS chronology on its head? I don't think so! in John's narrative, the gospel is STILL being preached to the world in Rev. 14 by angels, and that is shortly after the midpoint of the week. That is WAY past the messages to the churches. Where does Jesus first mention "end" in Matthew 24? The first time is in verse 6 where He tells them He is not YET talking about the end. He finally gets to "the end" in verse 13 and then jumps right over the first half of the week and lands at the midpoint. The parallel seals are seals 2-5. They are church age. In fact, He then skips over the 7th seal and the first 7 trumpets! Therefore I agree: Jesus parallels John. But Johhn's chronology stands AS IS and AS Correct!
  9. iamlamad

    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    The truth is, there IS more than one shaking. Every time Revelation tells us of an earthquake, that is a shaking. Therefore that scripture in Hebrews must be qualified: what subject, what context, etc. Just as one must qualify Paul's verse that there is only one baptism. One baptism in relation to what? One baqptism into the body of Christ? One baptism into the Holy Spirit? We need context on these kinds of scriptures. The Hebrews verse is probably quoting this: "For thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘Once more in a little while, I am going to shake the heavens and the earth, the sea also and the dry land.’" Haggai 2:6 NAS Paul goes on to say in Hebrews: "And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain." So now we are not only talking about shaking but also removal! Yet, things that cannot be shaken will remain. Maybe Paul is not even taking about and earthquake to shake the earth, or what ever to shake the heavens. Maybe it is a proverbial shaking. How can one "shake" the heavens? Cause a ripple in space that moves every thing: galaxies on down to planets? One commentator wrote, " What was of permanent value would be retained, and a kingdom would be established which nothing could move." Isaiah put it: Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger From his verse we know the shaking of heaven will be during the day of the Lord. When Jesus returns as in Rev. 19, HE will shake things: Joel 3:16 The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. In Matthew 24 we get TIMING with the shaking: And it is the POWERS of heavens that is shaken, not the heavens themselves. Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Therefore, I will need your help. Which shaking is which shaking? What is Hebrews talking about?
  10. iamlamad

    Just How Close is the RAPTURE?

    You amaze me! Do you really think there will be hail IN THE THRONE ROOM? That is a prophecy showing what is coming at the 7th vial. This prophecy is in vision form - OR - John heard this. I rather think he both heard and saw. No, not true. Each angel has a plague, and is given a bowl of wrath to go WITH the plague. I don't find that they are the same angels that sounded the trumpets. Do you not pay any attention to time or timing? The 7th trumpet sounds at the midpoint, when the man of sin enters the temple. The vials come later, after the False Prophet has shown up, after the image is created, after the mark is created and after the days of GT (because of the image and mark) have been ongoing. God will use the vials with associated plagues to SHORTEN those days of GT. In other words, there is simply NO WAY a trumpet can be associated with a plague and vial. The timing will not permit it.
  11. iamlamad

    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    I still don't understand why you imagine one event that comes after the days of tribultion can be the same event as one that comes before the days of tribulation. God could use the very same Greek word for both....but TIMING proves they are not the same. We don't even need to search the Greek to know they are not the same: just keeping each text in its context proves this. Also please keep in mind, the same bible that tells you that once more God will shake the earth and the heavens also says "there is one baptism." Yet, we know there is a baptism in water, a baptism into the body of Christ, and a baptism in the Holy Spirit. Which "one" then did God mean? It is the same with the shaking: WHICH "shaking" Was Hebrew's referring to? My guess is, the worst shaking - which is at the 7th vial that shakes the mountains down into the earth. After all, that shaking is indeed "after" the days of tribulation. The shaking at the 6th seal is BEFORE the days of GT. But it is only a guess because the bible does not make it clear. Has God spoken to you and TOLD you wish shaking Hebrews was referring to?
  12. iamlamad

    When do Revelations seals open

    We do not go by human reasoning when the scripture tells us. In the first half of the week, He will have 144,000 witnesses. He won't need two extra. It is possible that these three angels will use PEOPLE to spread their message. Has God so far ever used an angel to preach?
  13. iamlamad

    SIGNS in the Sun and Moon

    Go ahead and laugh: the joke is on you. When Matthew says "after the tribulation of those days" that tells us where to look in Revelation. When Matthew 24 tells us of the abomination, we know where to look in Revelation. Well, let me rephrase: I KNOW - you may not. I have showed you over and over and you don't believe? Why show you again? But since I am a nice guy, Satan is cast out at the midpoint - that midpoint marked by the 7th trumpet. The sound of the 7th trumpet will be Michael's signal to go to war. Oh, since you won't believe anyway, I will add that the midpoint of the week in Matthew 24 is in verse 15.
  14. iamlamad

    When do Revelations seals open

    Sorry, but it was Jesus HIMSELF that told me. I will take His word over yours any day of the week.
  15. iamlamad

    When do Revelations seals open

    20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. I suspect that some of the above will be accomplished by those that do the trampling. And for sure they are in the second half of the week. This passage does not mention the two witnesses. But if Revelation tells us they are here, then they are here. Keep in mind, this is only a warning about those days. It is not those days playing out. I believe many nations will send their armies to Israel, to wipe Israel off the map. At least, that is what they will be TOLD they are there for: But God will invite His guests to a feast and his guests will BECOME the feast - for the birds! Verses 20-23 seem to be at the midpoint of the week. Verse 24 may be later in the week. You have given no proof at all - as usual. if I have missed something, please tell it.
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