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  1. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    A departure from faith does not stand up to the test of verses 6-8. It cannot be the one holding down being "taken out of the way." If they made notes that it was a falling away from God, they were mistaken.
  2. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    "Some" departing and a very significant falling away are two different things. The truth is, when a few fall away, many more believe and are added to the body of Christ.
  3. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    It is simple, only 3 1/2 days are before the abomination that divides the week. They show up then because the man of sin shows up then in Jerusalem. After all, if he is to enter the temple in Jerusalem, he first must arrive in Jerusalem. He shows up a few days before. I think 3 1/2 days. Therefore, 1256.5 days of their testimony will be in the second half. (1260 - 3.5) Just so you know, the 7th trumpet will sound in heaven marking the very moment the man of sin enters the temple and declares he is god. If you notice, the two witnesses show up and begin their testimony just before the 7th trumpet. And if you notice, those in Judea that see the abomination will begin to flee just after the 7th trumpet. They testify for 1260 days, which will take them to just 3.5 days before the 7th vial that ends the week. The great earthquake when they rise is the very same earthquake at the 7th vial. It only appears they die before the 7th trumpet, but in reality John wrote 11:4 through 11:13 as a parenthesis, taking us down a SIDE journey (no bearing on chronology) only with the two witnesses. The truth is, when John saw they, that is when they arrive and begin. It would be silly for John to write of 42 months of trampling, to begin in 11:2, and then write of 1260 days that started way back at the beginning! Sorry, but John is very careful with his chronology. You are simply missing the parenthesis. For chronology, It is as follows: The man of sin arrives in Jerusalem with Gentile armies: 11:1-2 The two witnesses show up because he showed up. 11:3 The 7th trumpet sounds: 11_15 Those in Judea begin to flee: 12:6
  4. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    You don't associate "the gathering" and "his coming" with the rapture?
  5. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    It is FAR MORE that guessing. It is believing every word Paul wrote in this passage and making sense of every word. An example is, the word "IS" as in "IS revealed" as we read in verse 3b. No one will understand Paul's intent and ignore that word "IS." Most theories of this passage also ignore "And now you know." They have only guesses. Yet in reality Paul TOLD US who is doing this restraining. However, few really believe what Paul is really saying here. The One "taken out of he way" is the One restraining, and the one Restraining must be "taken out of the way" before the man of sin can be revealed. Most theories ignore the theme of the passage: the gathering.
  6. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    Please note, Paul wrote, AND NOW YOU KNOW...so we SHOULD know, after reading this passage WHO the restrainer is. Sorry, but the Two Witnesses testify during the LAST HALF of the week. But they begin just 3 1/2 days before the midpoint. It is the Holy Spirit who is the restrainer but He works trhough believers.
  7. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    Finally! Someone agrees with me! thanks.
  8. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    Now this I can agree with!
  9. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    Suppose Paul had taught them that the rapture would come at the end of the 70th week, and then someone told them they were half way through: would they be upset? NO! They would then know they only had to hold on for another 3 1/2 years. Yet, they WERE upset - upset enough to write to Paul. A postrib teaching by Paul would not explain that. One day you will have to come to grips with the fact that in 3b the man of sin IS revealed, so the one restraining has to be "taken out of the way" in 3a. Otherwise, throw verses 6-8 out of your bible. So if you don't think the restrainer being removed is found in "apostasia" show us where else in 3a anything has departed or been removed. This is not "guess work." It is using logic with what we are given. Words have to mean something.
  10. What is the "Secret Rapture"

    I think those that call it a "secret" rapture are those who don't believe in a rapture. God certainly did not call it a secret. There will be a shout and a loud trumpet sound. How could that be a secret? Read 1 thes. 4 & 5.
  11. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    God the Father is the WILL of God. But Jesus and the Holy Spirit defer to Him. As Jesus said, "not my will but Your's be done." In Genesis 1, it is for sure the Holy Spirit knew what was in the mind of the Father, but the Holy Spirit waited for the WORD to say, "let there be light." God the Father planned it, Jesus spoke it, and the Holy Spirit performed it.
  12. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    I agree. Jesus is the ONLY way - there is no salvation in Buddha, nor in Muhammad.
  13. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    I think we ARE at the end of the age.
  14. WHAT IS THE FALLING AWAY

    None of us are making God's decisions for Him on a second by second basis!
  15. Hi Jeff,

    I wonder if you have heard of Gary L Wood, or Richard Sigmond? Both of these men died and horrendous auto accidents and died. Both were declared dead at the hospital. Gary had has voice box cut and crushed. And He neck broken in a place all doctors say he had to die - which he did! But after a time in heaven, he returned to his body. His sister was praying so he had to return. 

    I have read both men's books. I have heard Gary preach and even talked with Him. There are just two men whom I am convinced have been to heaven, and returned to tell about it. 

    Another is a girl who was 4 1/2 years when she was taken to heaven - and she did not even die! 

    The list is long these days, and I am sure I have not read every such book.  The 4 1/2 year old girl was escorted by an angel to see aborted babies and Jesus allowed her to hold one.  This girl fell off a ladder down towards concrete, but angels caught her before she landed. Then after a while brought her back to the exact place in time and space, but moved her over so she landed on grass.  

    I believe these testimonies - you may not.

    1. simplejeff

      simplejeff

      It is best not to believe anything that cannot be tested and proven by God's Word, as God Says.  Multitudes have been deceived thereby - in fact many on this and other forums (that I became aware of or saw the last 10 years or so) who stated they had some 'experience' was never able to verify by God's Plan or Word nor by their lives that what they experienced was true or helpful or right or even of God at all. Just the opposite so far,  like many near death experiences making news world wide the last 20 years,  they all turn out to be frauds, still. (with maybe a few exceptions,  but testable ones,  verified true in line with God's Word.)  TEST EVERYTHING. 

      If you cannot verify it by God's Word,  then like the famous Bereans,  put it aside and don't lend any 'trust' to it,  don't repeat it until proven true.

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