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When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
The Anointed One was cut off (died) at the end of the 62 Weeks, you left that out. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
You are wrong, they do speak of Israel : Seventy Sevens are decreed for your people (Israel) and your holy city (Jerusalem) TO: the six. Two not one. (people and city) Zech 13:1 - On that day a fountain will be opened to the house of David, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, to cleanse them from sin and impurity. Yes, but when does Israel benefit? Zech 13:4 - On that Day every prophet will be ashamed of his prophetic vision. (one of the six) No; Scripture says the Anointed One is cut off after the 62 - Sevens. No mention of a ministry. Cut off, dies. Scripture does not support what you imply. No midst of the week is there. His death separates the 69th Week from the 70th Week. What corruption is there. Did the Holy Spirit get something wrong. Scripture does not imply that. "He will confirm a covenant with many for One Week"; Christ did no such thing at his Baptism. None of the 4 Gospels support this claim of yours. You do not follow sequence. The prince to come (Titus) destroyed the city and sanctuary in 70 A.D. Then at some later date v. 27 comes in to play. There is a break when the Anointed One is cut off. Titus destroys the city, then another in the future confirms an older covenant (establishes Temple sacrifices and offerings). Not supported by Scripture. But In Matt 24:15 ; Jesus tells those in Judea to flee to the mountains when they see the A/D spoken of in Daniel, then there will be distress unequaled, a warning to nursing mothers. Immediately afterward, not over a 2000 year period. No; He (the Cross) is the redemption of mankind, it is the Worthy Christ bearing the sins of the world.. (not an abomination)... Our being Crucified with Christ is not an abomination. You are dead wrong. Do I need to go any further In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
Israel still sins, transgresses, does not have everlasting righteousness, they have achieved none of the six. BTW Scripture says the Anointed One has nothing is Cut off, dies after the 69th Week. No mention of the 70th Week until v27, well after Christ's death. The sequence of v27 can then be applied correctly. Now this gives plenty of time for the 70th Week. And a midpoint when the A/D comes forth. A time for those of Judea to flee. A time for the S. T. B judgments to come forth. And then Armageddon followed by the 2nd Coming. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
He arrives in the 69th Week and dies at the end of the 69th Week as Scripture says. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
Everything in Chp 9 is about Israel. v.2 - desolation of Jerusalem; v.6 - we have not listened to your servants and prophets; v.6 - and to all the people of the land; v.7 - because of our unfaithfulness; v. 8 we and our kings; v.8 - we have rebelled against him; v.10 - we have not obeyed; v.14 we have not obeyed him; v.15 who brought your people out of Egypt; v.16 - Jerusalem and your people; v.24 - your people and your holy city; In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
Dan 9:26 - After the (7 Sevens) and 62 - Sevens, the Anointed One will be cut off and have nothing. Christ dies at the end of the 69th Week. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
Christ died at the end of the 69th week as Daniel says. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
It (A/D) never got set up in 70 AD, The Temple burned beforehand. Jerusalem was under siege. The problem is the A/D is set up midweek, and not post 70th Week. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
But who is confirming the covenant with many for One Week?? And Why does he stop sacrifice and offering and the set up the A/D?? Why does Jesus in Matt 24 say when you see this A/D flee to the mountains, how dreadful those days will be. All future. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
So you don't believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit as a threesome (Trinity). That's a pity. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
The error after error is saying this prophecy is past, nothing further from the truth. The 70 - Sevens are a prophetic timeline for the salvation of Israel. Daniel's people (those of the 12 tribes) and Daniel's holy city (Jerusalem) have yet to partake in any of the 6 tasks bestowed on them. We are just waiting for "On That Day" to come in the future. One more prophetic week remains. We are not on the same page. I see you can still buy and sell, so does that mean you have the MOB? Rev 13:17 This is the onset of the 70th Week, which lead to the A/D at the midpoint of the Week. The new covenant is in His blood, been going on for 2000 years. Jesus forecast the Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Then some time after that is when someone makes a covenant with many. Has not happened yet. Only the uninformed would believe as you have stated. Again the 70 Sevens are but a prophetic timeline for the Salvation of Israel.. "On that Day". Repeated many times in Zech. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
"Trinity" is also not in the Scriptures; But as we know we have the Father, Son and Holy Spirit which is a Trinity. So your belief falls on its face. The "7 year Tribulation" also does not have to be worded as such: Dan 9:24 - Seventy Sevens are decreed (490 years); which is divided into 7- Sevens then 62 - Sevens, and lastly a 1 - Seven. One Seven, not a sum of 7. (3 1/2 + 3 1/2) is a One Seven, but is not equal to or the same as 3 1/2 + 3 1/2 which the sum total is 7, but not a One Seven. The brackets provide oneness. v27 - And he will confirm a covenant with many for One Seven (7 continuous years), and in the middle of the Seven he will cease sacrifices and offerings and set up the A/D. ( the dividing point). Rev 13:5 - and he will exercise his authority for 42 months. v.10 - If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go, If anyone is to be killed with a sword, with a sword he will be killed. Some have Tribulation here for the first 42 months. Rev 12: 13-15 - The Dragon saw that he had been hurled to earth,.. he pursued the woman for 42 months. If one does not have the MOB, he cannot buy or sell. Many have Tribulation for the second 42 months. (Some Tribulation for 3 1/2 years +Much Tribulation for 3 1/2 years) is Seven years of Tribulation. In Christ Montana Marv -
The two sticks are the 10 Tribes of the northern kingdom (Israel) and the 2 Tribes of the southern kingdom, Judah. Two kingdoms, two kings; When joined, One kingdom with One king. In Christ Montana Marv
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When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
Just a thought. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. On the 6th day God created man and gave man dominion on the earth. No mention of when God created the Angels. There is no mention of how long Adam resided in the Garden before the fall. I see a conflict here, God is spending more time with Adam than the Angels, and thus this is what was the cause of Lucifer's wickedness. Ezk 28:11-19 --- You/Lucifer/Satan were in the Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you.... Your setting and mountings were made of gold, on the day that you were created they were prepared..... Here we see that the creation of the Angels was near to the creation of Man/Adam. The Garden of Eden was made for Adam to manage. Yet we also see Lucifer here. Adam a physical Being; Lucifer a Spiritual Being. Both of who's home is the earth. So Lucifer was not cast down, he resided here before the fall. Lucifer had do take on a physical body (snake) to approach Eve. The difficult question is; Who was created first. Adam or the Angels. In Christ Montana Marv -
When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?
Montana Marv replied to Stewardofthemystery's topic in Prophecy
I didn't say that. He accuses John's Brethren, which are Believers in Christ here on earth in the Heavenly realm. What is the time frame. God does not come down to him, he must go up to God. And this since the beginning of the Church Age or Pentecost. This is ongoing in Heaven; Satan accuses, Christ rejects his accusation. Ongoing day and night in Heaven since Pentecost. Satan had to appear in Heaven for permission to attack Job. And in doing so most all of Jobs family was killed. He resided on earth at this time. Now since Satan accuses Believers in Christ day and night, he will later be hurled down to earth in the near future. Woe to the earth and the sea. Then in Rev 12 we see the Dragon/Satan pursuing the woman (Israel) for 42 Months. His time is short. He no longer has access to Heaven, he is bound to the earth again. In Christ Montana Marv