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Not Scriptural supported. All conjecture. The for you/these are the N.T. Believers, see v, 16; they are given a Counselor, the Spirit of Truth. 2000 years to construct something which God can created by His own mouth. Say it and it is done. Not seen/reported by John when taken into Heaven. The Temple in Jerusalem Ezk 43: 1-7. So what you are implying is the Bride will be in (your view of the unfinished New Jerusalem in Heaven); Then will return with Christ to this earth, and not be in (your unfinished New Jerusalem); Later to dwell in the fully constructed New Jerusalem. Why would Christ want us His Bride living/dwelling in an unfinished building, when all others enter when it is fully constructed? That after the 1000 years. In Christ Montana Marv
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That's not implied at all. The us in John 14 is referring to Spirit filled Believers see John 14:16. And Jesus is preparing a place for them the Bride. This is only referring to the Bride. Ye,t the New Jerusalem will have many many more. The Just of Israel, The Just of Pre-flood, the Just of Post Flood. Those of the nations who did not follow Satan's last campaign and the Bride. In Christ Montana Marv
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Yet, Jesus said in john 14 that He is going to the Father's house to prepare a place for us. That where I am (the Fathers House),; I will come back and take you to be with me. You know the way to the place where I am going. All about the Fathers House. In Christ Montana Marv
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BUSTED - 2 false schemes of interpreting the Apocalypse
Montana Marv replied to Excalibur's topic in Eschatology
Interpreting the Apocalypse spiritually or of the past will result in thousands of differing views and false assumptions. In Christ Montana Marv -
BUSTED - 2 false schemes of interpreting the Apocalypse
Montana Marv replied to Excalibur's topic in Eschatology
Everything from now on is Future; Tomorrow is future. When Christ returns ALL will know it is Him. He ascended up from the Mt. of Olives, and he shall return in like manner as He went up. Every eye will see Him. The King of Kings and Lord of Lords will require worship of all those who reside on the Earth. No fables here. But there is another who appears 7 years before our King of Kings and Lord of Lords. This person along with the False Prophet will be thrown alive into the Lake of Fire near the end of the 70th Week. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Yet 14:16 - 19 says there is Sin in your New Heaven and Earth. Disobedience of not taking part of the Feast of Tabernacles. The Plague of no Rain will happen for those who do not observe. SIN It is best to put Zech 12 to 14 in the 1000 reign of Christ where it belongs. For we all know that the nations sin during this time. Christ must rule with a rod of iron. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
You always leave this out. v 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord will bring on them the Plague he inflicts on nations that do not go up to celebrated the Feast of Tabernacles. Egyptians are singled out among the nations. Don't observe, no Rain (SIN) No rain is the Plague he inflicts on nations who do not observe the Feast of Tabernacles. Disobedience is SIN So with a loud voice you proclaim that there is SIN in the New Heaven and on the New Earth. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Have Death and Hades been cast into the Lake of Fire yet? NO If we are in the New Heaven and the New Earth as you say. We have no more Testimony to proclaim. No one to proclaim it to. All have glorified eternal bodies, of which no one here has. We are still waiting for the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments, Armageddon and the Second Coming, all of which are future. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Yes, Jesus does warn us of your teachings. Waiting for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to descend to the Mt of Olives is what Israel is waiting for. False teaching, Misapplied Scripture is what you pedal.. Yet, maybe there is hope for some of these individuals. Zech 8:3 - This is what the Lord says; I will return to Zion and dwell in Jerusalem. Zech 8:4 - This is what the Lord Almighty says; Once again men and women of ripe old age will sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each with cane in hand because of his age. The city streets will be filled with boys and girls playing there. Will there be the need for canes in the New Heaven and the New Earth for all things are new, all have glorified eternal bodies. v.23 - In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, Let us go with you because we have heard that God is with you. Zech 14:8 - On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half to the eastern sea and half to the western sea in summer and winter. Remember no Seas in the New Heavens and New Earth. v. 20 - On that day HOLY TO THE LORD will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lord's house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar. Every pot in Jerusalem will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots to cook in them They come to sacrifice This is all about the 1000 year reign of Christ. Those who reject this preach the spirit of antichrist In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
We still have seas and oceans. None in the New Heaven and New Earth We have wars and rumors of wars. None in the New Heaven and New Earth We have disobedience and death. None in the New Heaven and the New Earth The Second Coming is yet to come, Still good and evil; Jew and Gentile, Just and Unjust. The Bride of Christ is still being formed as God draws us into the Kingdom. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Did you get yours from the Gideon's. A well read Bible is a good Bible. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
We do the Lord's Supper. The Feast of Tabernacles, yes in a way. We are to give first fruits. The first lamb/animal offspring is to be given to God, and in so doing you by Faith are acknowledging to God that He will provide more lambs or offspring through that animal. One gives God the First, He will provide the rest. If One gives God scrapes, He will give scrapes back, no Faith involved. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
No. In Zech 14:16-19 it is the Gentile nations who are commanded to observe the Feast of Tabernacles. This is during the 1000 reign of Christ. The Feast of Tabernacles lasts for seven days is about bringing offerings after the harvest to the Lord . In the same way those surviving nations are to bring a gift from their harvest to the King of Kings. A gift of their bounty. If they do not provide their bounty at the Feast of Tabernacles, there will be no rain for the following season. We as Believers really do not need to keep any of the Jewish Holidays or Feasts. Many are a direct correlation to the attributes of the Godhead and how to approach the Godhead. To them for them. But we are instructed to break bread and partake in the New Covenant of His Blood frequently as was done at the Last Supper. Communion to us. This until He comes for us. Primary ordnance for Believers. It all came down to: Love the Lord thy God with all your mind, soul and spirit; Love yourself, then you are able to love your neighbor. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Yes, until we are glorified with Him. And we also are flesh and blood here to be salt of the earth and lamp on top of a hill. A witness to the Gospel. In Christ Montana Marv -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Montana Marv replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
False. And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among men. In Christ Montana Marv