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I believe he was created. He was a plan of God's oracle before the world, but he was not manifest until approx 0 AD. He was not manifested in human form, but he already was and always was in the form of the spiritual

He didn't seem to be aware he was YHWH. He never said he was, although it might seem so INDIRECTLY. If Jesus is God and God is YHWH then Jesus is YHWH What are you a disciple of Matt Slick? Pleeze. Show me where the first proposition is true. I deny it. Thank you. Jesus did say that he was God. Well, he is of God, because he was born of Him Eerp. Okay, so you agree with me, he never actually SAID "I am YHWH." Born of God. Yes of the Holy Spirit and woman. Does that make him automatically YHWH? I don't assume so. The question was whether or not Christ was created or if he just is, like YHWH. Then there are two, doing the equal harmony cosmic dance, if you will. Which do you believe? Is Christ a created being or does He have no beginning and no end? An honest and straight answer would be appreciated. I believe that he has no beginning and no end

He didn't seem to be aware he was YHWH. He never said he was, although it might seem so INDIRECTLY. If Jesus is God and God is YHWH then Jesus is YHWH What are you a disciple of Matt Slick? Pleeze. Show me where the first proposition is true. I deny it. Thank you. Jesus did say that he was God. Well, he is of God, because he was born of Him Eerp. Okay, so you agree with me, he never actually SAID "I am YHWH." Born of God. Yes of the Holy Spirit and woman. Does that make him automatically YHWH? I don't assume so. The question was whether or not Christ was created or if he just is, like YHWH. Then there are two, doing the equal harmony cosmic dance, if you will. Well, if we can not understand what no time is then we cannot know if jesus always existed.

He didn't seem to be aware he was YHWH. He never said he was, although it might seem so INDIRECTLY. If Jesus is God and God is YHWH then Jesus is YHWH What are you a disciple of Matt Slick? Pleeze. Show me where the first proposition is true. I deny it. Thank you. Jesus did say that he was God. Well, he is of God, because he was born of Him

He didn't seem to be aware he was YHWH. He never said he was, although it might seem so INDIRECTLY. If Jesus is God and God is YHWH then Jesus is YHWH

The problem is that you need to understand when Jesus is speaking as God and when He is speaking as man. Jesus was both God and man, 100% of each. Jesus prayed, dealt with temptation, etc. as a man in order to be a righteous model for us to follow. He related to God as a man in order to show us how to do it. Jesus also did things that only God can do. He exercized personal power over nature, death and demons. He also claimed to be eternal life, which is really over the top if Jesus is only a man. He also absolved sin from a person which even His enemies acknowledged as something belonging to God. He even recieves worship, before and after His resurrection/ascension. In addition, Jesus is to be proclamed "Lord" which in the first century, when Bible was being written in the shadow of the Roman Empire, it was a very radical and dangerous thing to call anyone but Caeasar "Lord." You need to realize that "Lord" in terms of Caesar, was a defied title, and the Bible sets Jesus up as a deity in contest with Caesar. To declar Caesar as "Lord" was to acknowledge his deity. So when the writers of the NT declared that Jesus is "Lord" that deified rivalry between the god Caesar vs. the true "Lord" and "God" Jesus, would not have been lost on those believers in the first century. To declare Jesus as "Lord" was to proclaim Him as God. I agree with Shiloh. Jesus can be 100% God and human, just as i am 100% human and 100% self-aware.

Well, when we sin, sometimes there are good consequences are there not? People who dont pay taxes dont suffer because they sometimes feel no sense of wrong in doing it. In other words, everyones perception of sim and morality is different.