LadyKay

Words do change. What is and is not a "dirty word" changes. My pastor once told a story that when he was a kid, his grandfather punished him good because he said the word "pregnant". And back then you were not suppose to say the word "pregnant". You were suppose to say "in the family way."

You mother. You should listen to your mother. If she says your not going out of this house like that then you should listen.

Just don't talk politics and it will be fine. And Gator I am glad you put pants on your alligator. LOL

Well lets see. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. Ephesians 5:4 Now me going by this verse. It tells me no crude joking. But then who or what decided what is consider to be "crude" and what is not? I am thinking that it is culture and society and (this is important) And the guidance of the Holy Spirit in our lives. If the Holy Spirit tells me I shouldn't call someone a "ding bat", then I shouldn't.

Well the thing is is that the Bible does not make a list of "bad words" not to say. So one kind of has to take cues from society to know what is and what is consider offensive to say. All I can remember reading in the Bible about words not to say was that there is a passage that says you should not call a person a fool, and about taking the Lord's name in vain.

One way I look at all of this is don't say words that upset other people. While I do not consider the A** word a bad word I know people who do so I do not say it around them. Not that I go around saying that word a lot. But if it needs to come up I say a more acceptable word in it's place if I am around certain people whom it may upset. I think that is what the passage of Scripture is really about. Not upsetting or hurting others. Calling someone "stupid" could be as much of a bad word according to the passage of Scripture as calling someone one of them "other" words.

I'm not "short" I am " vertically challenged " !

I think the question should be is it appropriate for you to use the "s" word. My grandmother was a Christian and she used the "s" because her generation that was what "s" was called and she had no other word for it except the "s" word. So that is what she said. I once called her out on it and she did not believe me when I told her it was a "bad word." She said to me "that ain't no bad word! Everyone does it and that is what it is." LOL! Well there is my little story for you hope you enjoy.

What are we all arguing about? I think that each of us as Christians are in agreement that we should dress modestly. But this topic has turn into nit picking with endless debate on what is and what is not consider modest; and that is something that simply has no end. Okay that was my 2 cents worth for the day. Carry on.

I don't know what you mean by that seeing as I am a Christian. And by the way I meant "church goers" and not Christians.

I never said you said I couldn't wear shorts. But I read somewhere in the mess of replies about women in shorts, and swim suits and tight sweaters. Oh forget it. I'm going to go eat pizza now.

Well your accusing a certain group of people of doing stuff bass on their choice to not wear clothes. I thought I point out that even church going people who wear clothes do them things as well. Nothing snarky about it.

This is true. But people telling me I cant wear shorts are not God. Yet they think they are the voice of God. ( I think that might be what I am trying to say here)

Yeah people who go to church never do that sort of thing. ..........yeah.

If this goes any farther we will soon be talking about if women should lock themselves inside and not allow themselves to be seen by a man other then their husband. For fear that doing so could cause a poor man to fall into lust. In the end I think if we don't know how we should dress. We can always ask God about it in prayer. To guild our lives in the right way. That is what I do.

Now come on. You don't even know the people whom he is speaking about. You should not accuse them of being wife swappers and pedos. People who wear clothes do that sort of thing too. I do not like where all of this is going. Maybe I should ban myself from the topic.

Yes. Most women even when dressed "modestly" ( like a long dress with long sleeves) if they are nice looking, lustful thoughts can come into someone's head. For me it is a man in a kilt. Oh my do I ever like a man in a kilt. With beautiful eyes and long hair. Okay I'm done now. Sorry got lost there for a moment.

I did not say no one knows what it is. Just that different people have different views on what is and what is not modest. Why is that so hard to get across?

I do not think that I have been ignoring the Bible's instruction on modesty. I only wish to point out that we all differ on what we consider to be modesty.

I'm not picking on anyone. I am just giving my thoughts and views on the topic. Yeah I use humor sometimes but that is only because I think we are to laugh at ourselves sometimes. I really don't know how I am suppose to be on this forum anymore. Expressing my thoughts offend people, my jokes offend people. I don't know you all just need to take me as I am or put me on ignore I guess. I don't know.

Why are you asking me that?

I think modesty is in the eye of the beholder.

I suppose if you are aware that you are causing a brother or sister in Christ to stumble. Then you may what to take a look at what you are doing. But this scripture can apply to more then just to how one is dressed. For example if you brother in Christ is is an alcoholic, it maybe best that you not invite them out to a place that has alcohol. I myself would consider changing into something else if a Christian brother did come to me and kindly explain to me that the way I dress is causing them to stumble. If I ignored this then I do think that I would be guilty of a sin against my fellow Christian. So that is how I would go about this situation.

I think that anything that covers the important stuff is modest. I think that anything that lets the important stuff show is not modest. I don't like this topic and I think I should stop now.

So we should wear robes like they did in the Bible?