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Indeed, something no one should ever do,it makes for mockery and skepticism as they are always proven wrong " Oh,what happened,your great Prophecy predicting the date (from your God) came and went " Look at Jonathan Kahn- he was getting much attention and it's was good because he sure can boast for Christ! But then he had to go and give a date... Very few are listening now......it's foolishness

Amen ,as that same Blessed Assurance is our Comfort too

Great point" Put on Christ everyday" Yes,I thought it fun too- I enjoyed it myself( the film )❤️

I did not suggest your post was about when....I too do not think Paul was not confused at all or thought as Dennis posted but the opposite .... However ,,the Thessalonians were very confused,simply mentioned it

Long time ago I had facilitated a Bible Study regarding the key points in Paul's message to the Thessalonians because they thought the Day of the Lord had already taken place Paul explains to them there's no need to grieve and they must first wait until they too are Resurrected to be with the Lord as they were concerned about their dead loved ones There was much confusion and even then it was "when ,when,,when"....Paul was getting out the right Message,it's not about " when" but all about He Will Come and we should be Comforted by His Promise.....the dead will be Raised first and you will not precede them on that Day..... They thought they missed the Day of the Lord!Wow,right?

Yup- the entire reason I shared this Topic- getting inside the Ancients thinking,customs and traditions....👍 In His Love,Sis Kwik

Amen..

Wow- OC! Thank you for sharing your very personal experience suffering the damage the preachers,teachers and ministers can do in spreading the wrong Message in a very wrong way The Gospel of Christ Jesus is Called "Good News" its the Message of a Blessed Assurance,the Guarantee,the Promise,Eternal Security,Perfection .... this Good News is for everyone,the Offer is for anyone and the Time is NOW God Has not Given us a spirit of fear- when a Message invokes fear in the hearts and minds its not a Message of Hope in Christ.... not thst kind of fear. The fear of our Lord is Reverance,thsts not fright or terror.... I'm so Glad you heard His Still Small Voice in spite of the clamoring distractions all around you- to Seek Him with all your heart,mind and soul..❤️ Love you,appreciate you..... In His Love,Kwik

Well said Brother,thank for contributing more contextual proofs of Sound Doctrine,clearly defined God's Promises are most often " conditional"- there are always Terms of Agreement (Covenant) which become null & void when the Agreement is breached or Terms are violated The Old Covenant could not be kept or full filled by man's efforts ,as you mention above ,we must Rightly Divide His Word - by doing so we have that Unity of Faith in Christ Jesus,,our Head There is but One Gospel- One Truth,only ONE With love in Christ,Kwik

Many ( not a few but many) argue amongst themselves that the Church of Christ and the Body of Christ are not one in the same- another controversial matter( gee,,there are so many) In 1 Cor 12:27 Paul addresses the Church ,Saying" YOU ARE the Body of Christ Scripture Confirms Scripturd Eph 1:22-23 Jesus is HEAD over all things to the CHURCH- which IS HIS Body Eph 5:25 Husbands love your wives as Christ loves the Church In the Book of Rdvelation - chapter 19:7-9 The MARRAIGE Supper of the Lamb is Come- His Wife made herself ready Other references John 3:29 Mark 2:19 Matt 25:1-3 All pointing to the Wedding Jesus Talked about as we see throughout the Gospels..... And in Revelation 21:2 We see the Holy City,the new Jerusalen coming from God because a new Heaven and a new earth was made- the old passed away The New Jerusalem are not Israel- they are both Jew and Gentile and the Childrdn of God,the Father who were Born Again ... this is a separate event and not the Rapture event where Jesus spares His Bride of Gods Wrath poured out upon the earth but Jesus Establishing His Kingdom,the Image primarily found in Rev to depict the Eternal Place after the End of this world There is one Second Coming- New Jerusaldm is not coming with Jesus to Rapture His Church... but a symbolic Imagery Representating a Decent of the Heavenly City after the Second Coming of Christ We must Consider John's Revelation was a Vision he Described as Inspired by God to Write With love in Christ,Kwik

People do- did and will continue to interpret what they read differently than others and that is also what " Before the Wrath' mentions It is because of the conflicting ,contrasting ' teachings',preachings and sermons where so many disagree within the churches that leads up to the Great Falling Away Unbelievers watch and listen to endless debate and mixed Doctrine that in their eyes" Well if they can't even agree on their own religion..... " That was the opening to this film- Christians always asking and trying to answer the WRONG questions.... Now with my own eyes I see an even bigger problem,not only the usual ' When when when" is Jesus Returning instead of WHY He IS but now a disagreement about WHO He is Coming back to " Rapture " before the Wrath What does this say to the unbelievers of the Christian who might not feel any urgency to ' be Ready '.... Is He Coming for me? This has turned into the exact opposite of what I Hoped for- I Hoped for Joy and Excitement in referencing some of the most beautiful,Encouraging Words Jesus Spoke to HIS DISCIPLES - yeah,that's US folks!!!As in John 16:16-16 Yes,the Wedding Promise,the New Covenant,His Promise for His Bride "In a little while you'll see me no more and again,in a little while you shall see me,because I go to the Father" After Jesus Rose from the dead I have no doubt Jesus Words played over and over in each of their minds and then what He Had been telling them all along was fully realized We can also relate to our own carnal knowledge and the Awakening and opening of the Eyes of Understanding being Born Again.... The Apostles had not yet fully Received Jesus ,He Had to Leave to Send back Holy Spirit to Abide in them..... Imagine their Joy when they Received Revelation by the Power of Holy Spirit Everyone must pray Revelation to fully Understand Living Word - Our Redeemer Lives,our Groom Preparing a place for us in Father's House With love,in Christ,Kwik

No,there were not- Am I not to expect we all know the Scriptures of the Last Supper?I believe almost everyone here understood without proof text..... I did not come up with this little story from doing a Bible Study where I'd go through Scripture and offer contextual proofs - If I had I would have posted in Bible Study Forum I watched a lovely Documentary and I had no problem following the theme because I already Know God's Word -so do you Like Jesus Would often Say " Have you not not read?" Matt 12:3 Matt 22:5 Matt 19:4 Matt 21;42 Matt 22:31

That's right- Matthew Chapter 26 And for further " text" which basically the story of what Jesus PROMISES to His Disciples at the Last Supper is "Take and eat- this is my Body" etc....Just as the bride and groom in Cana would be breaking the bread and drinking from the Cup of Joy to solidify their " union" on the day the bride Accepts the Grooms offer - here we see another thing the Galilieans would have understood immediately because of their own culture The Wedding..... by eating from the same bread torn into pieces and drinking from the same cup it was to represent that what is in me is in you and what is in you is now in me.....What Jesus Spoke at that Last Supper was His Promise to fulfill this Covenant- to Return for His Bride---- His Body,the Church No,not Israel John 14:20 JESUS begins with " On that day...." What day?All these Sayings of Jesus are Addressed to His Bride

@Marilyn C We'll have to agree to disagree on this one And again- hopefully for the last time,I'm sharing a Documentary about Prophecy of the Rapture of the Bride of Christ that they Will Attend the Marriage Supper in His Father's House - Understanding what the Galilieans heard and understood I've read alot of your posts on the Topic of your Interpretations regarding End Times Prophecy etc.... and how important it is to you to see the signs of the times and WHEN Jesus Will Return.... you're not alone,many preach on this I did not share this to have a debate on End Times-its really not about End Times though I know its your favorite Topic So I'm finished,I already posted what I wanted to share With love in Christ,Kwik

Thanks ,I agree and it's a terrible look when there's such arguing over " when"- when in fact it's the most irrelevant and insignificant thing I never knew that the groom going to the fathers house for an unspecified time,that only the father would determine was commonplace in Ancient Galilean culture- I really did not and was quite excited to find out WHY GOD the SON said such a thing " No one Knows ,not even the Son" .... I often wondered how could that be- whether Jesus Knew or not is not even important anynore- He Was Speaking to His Disciples so they'd Understand,what they were familiar with- like " Fishers of men",they Understood perfectly being fisherman,lol I enjoyed it myself❤️

Culturally based is not the point In order to Understand the Scriptures we must study context- always considering the time,the place,the audience,the cultures and traditions of the Ancients.... however,,you can study the Bjble however you choose I'm not drawing parallels and as I explained,I watched a wonderful Documentary (the Title) you can look it up yourself and watch it I suppose - this is what the film was about If share Jesus Words to His Disciples He Spoke at the Last Supper with people of our times it would be difficult to understand what He meant in comparison to the Ancient Galileans....I thought it would be good to share,especially in a society that hasn't much regard for tradition or regard for the Marraige Covenant Or any covenants for that matter Be Blessed

Oh @farouk,I'm not familiar with what likes & dislikes mean in the world of social media networking.....I just reply with an emoji to what the post says....I love all my Brothers & Sisters,if I don't click an emoji I probably didn't read it or there's not a fitting emoticon imo❤️

Snippets?

Of course not- how many of Trumps personell,family members,friends ,workers or business associates,colleagrs of his do you know.... where do you hear your stories? Personally I don't like to talk about anyone I don't know,not celebrities,,politicians or people that just have a lot to say about the little they know - it's not my thing,the only reason I've shared is because it is what I do know about a person I have met and had like I said,first hand knowledge of..... it's not to defend,it's just what happened as I recall(I was fairly young,it was long ago) No doubt President Trump wouldn't know me if he tripped over me and fell on my lap--- he may well remember my Dad but not me

By some outdoor ice skating rink are you referencing Wollman Rink in Central Park?After the City sauandering millions and wasting I believe 7 yrs on a project that Trump rebuilt with lightening speed,with much of his own money donated to the project or nobody talks about that- only the part where he told Msyor Koch to shove the little "Trump tree" he had erected ...... YALL KNOW WHERE! Oh having lived there,been privy to first hand info I can only smh at the internet and news garbage thsts spread out for lovers of gossip and hearsay.... Tsk tsk..... if ya wasn't there ,sssshhhhhh my advice,my own Dad was present when the Donald was invited to the dedication,I believe he barely stepped out of his limo when he told whomever it was to send his msg to City Hall.... it wasn't about the size of the tree either,it was about being invited to a supposed show of appreciation and the host doesn't show up!!!! I'd be just as insulted if someone invited me someplace and they didn't show

Blessings & Greetings I watched a wonderful documentary Titled the same as this Thread. There's do much talk here on pre,mid,post trib and imo misses the mark- so many Christians are always focusing on " when" they completely miss the entire point that is definitive JESUS- always asking the wrong question when the question every Christian should be preaching is WHY Jesus Must Return-- Date setters irreversibly damagimg the Faith,there is always heated debate over " when" with so much dividion,controversy and conflict with the church thst the world sees as hypocrisy - Christians cannot answer " when" to the unbeliever and should be reminded of whst everyone seems to have forgotten The world has forgotten thst Prophecy Proves God is God and if it didn't then the Bible is no more relevant or Divine as any other book.... there is no Eviddnce being taught and that is why there will be a Great Falling Asay,the trend has already began While 73% of the Bible is Prophecy related only 2% teaches that- the Rapture is a Fundamental Belief- so why all the confusion- the Galileans (Apotles)understood perfectly what Jesus was Telling them in parables .Two thirds of the Gospel was Written in Galilee -so to understand what is Written one must understand the culture and traditions that was very exclusive to this little strip of land back in 30AD Back in 30AD North Israel was under Roman rule.Everything begins at a wedding in Cana.Such an important event- people from all walks of life lived in Galilee,,fisherman,tax collectors,buyers,sellers,craftsmen etc When a Betrothal was announced everyone,all the towns people rushed to the Gate of the city Why,you might ask? Because a Covenant is ratified by witnesses-the bride and groom are going to agree to the terms set forth - after the agreement gifts are given to the bride- a sort of dowry but not to buy the bride or compensate the parents of the bride- no,,this was an insurance policy for the bride herself.... and here's the order of events The groom has a pitcher of wine,he pours out a cup( Cup of Joy) and offers to pass it to the bride- at this point the bride has the power in her hands to accept or reject the offer,if she willingly accepts this proposal from the groom she then takes the Cup of Joy and drinks from it,passes it back to the groom and he drinks from it- this solidifies their unbreakable union,the agreement This is profound !Just as Jesus Says to His Disciples" This is the Last time I'll drink from this cup UNTIL in my Father's House"- this is the New Covenant Promise You see ,it did sound strange or odd to a Galilean when Jesus Said it at the Last Supper because all they heard was " WEDDING" Remember Jesus turned the water onto wine at a wedding in Cana? Weddings were probably the most important event to take part in for a Galilean -a grand celebration for all who came at the invitation after the announcement After the Betrothal,terms agreement,gift giving and solidified union witnessed by many the bride and groom will life apart until the actual Wedding- which is a 7 day Feast,about a year later.... bit you see,no one knows the the day or the hour!!!Here is why The groom must leave,he must go to his father's house to build a room where he & his bride will live- he has much work to do before he returns for his bride. It is of the utmost importance thst Jesus ,at the Last Supper,Tells His Disciples He must leave and they understood completely when He Saud:' I Go and Prepare a Place for you in My Father's House " any Galilean would Know that is a PROMISE that He MUST Return for them - the verbal promise the groom makes,the terms of agreement becsuse of the Culture If you cut out the culture you gut the meaning- it has been lost in today's culture So spreading the Gospel Message and leaving out the WHY Jesus WILL Return for His Bride is part of the reason for Apostasy 85% of Christiand disagree with these core beliefs regarding a Rapture .... no sense of urgency that thd Bride be Prepared as she waits People believe in aliens,ufos,psychics,ghosts yet they don't believe in a Rapture - only 1 out of 4 Americans Believe Christ Will Return in their lifetime,only a Remnant is hanging on to the Hope in Christ yet there is Eviddncd in every Bible Story An acient Galiliean would never be surprised in the middle of the night when the Shofar blasts in the Last Days the theif in the night will be for the unbelievers who were not expecting the Grooms Return,not His Bride.And He Will Return in the middle in the night The Bride has much to do while the Groom is away- she must prepare for not only His Return but for the feast of 7 days- she must make an elaborate wedding gown( white linen) and have the wine,foods everything ready- it would sometimes take months to acquire all these things- and after she had the wedding gown she would sleep in it with her brides maids ready as well The Groom sleeps with the groomsmen as the time nears - still ,even He does not know the day or the hour until he has finished preparing the place in his father's house and the Father says "Go now,get your bride" WOW! The shofar sounds,the excited town makes a concession- they all join to go to the brides house--- they get there and by no effort on her part she is lifted into the air( flying to the father's housd).... she is carried off,she does not walk- cultural practice Then at the Father's house they will have the Wedding Feast- interestingly everyone pours in to the house and the door is shut behind them,no one can enter after the doors are closed to the outside and no one can leave for the 7 days So you see,those that were ready ,got in!If you were locked out you were too late So the question of when is irrelevdnt,the Answer to WHY God Sends His Son and Brings her UP to Him,caught up in the air.... is how Jesus Saves His Bride from the Wrath to Come... Understanding the Galilean culture is to understand the urgency of being ready and prepared for the Grooms Return and back to the Cup of Joy for those who Hear,will you Accept the Offer or reject it? With love in Christ,Kwik

Wow- here is a resurrection unto life for an 18 yr old Thread That's a lot of scrolling through pages of WCF threads....DoK left in 2007 I hope quoting her was only for desire to revive the Topic,I don't expect she'll reply

Amen- exactly the point! And let's not forget Abraham- counted as Righteous becsuse He Believed God It's such a simple,humble response to God's Call .... isn't it? Much akin to someone bearing a present wrapped with a Gift inside- Accepting thst Gift is not an effort or a work- the Giver Has it,wrapped it,brought it,offered it and puts it in the hands of acceptance Oh,what to say except " Thank You Lord"

God Says it- I Believe Him!❤️Amen

I do belong to a Forum for animal lovers..... you'd not believe the comments from people from other Countries who are fed all kinds of propaganda about the USA and with very big opinions against Trump supporters We ,the world,have a very dumb downed society becsuse their facts are taken from social media & fake news.....believing all of what they see snd read without researching credible sources( or as much as you can find to verify what is posted or shown) Wouldn't you agree? Policies,proposals etc are public info ( in America) if you can read for yourself vs commentaries.... but outside of America- yikes The only people I have good discussion with are people in UK that seem to have almost as much liberties to access information as we do