Apocalypse2007

I'll take your challenge Christopher.

Agreed

The problem with Britian is that it like many other European nations has been overrun with a muslim population.

The only reason Islamic Terrorism has been allowed to firment so long is because of the socialist Europeans. To think they are calling for Sharon to come before their new world order internation criminal court on charges of terrorism when arafat is responsible for all of the terrorism. To think liberals would have us believe that Sharon is bulldozing palestinian homes because he wants the people to suffer, that crap couldn't be farther from the truth. As you probably already know the Islamic terrorists set traps of bombs and other dangerous devices on the doors of the homes so when Israel soldiers go looking for terrorists they get blown up. What Sharon has done thus far has been nothing but defense of Israel. It amazes me that a nation so small as Israel with less than 2% of the land in all of the Middle East is being blamed for the chaos by socialist Europeans and liberal Americans. It takes a really stupid uneducated person to blame Israel for defending itself. Like I said in another post had America suffered every attack Israel did the nation doing the attacks would have been carpet bombed, yet it is ok for Israel to have the #### blown out of them, and they are expected to sit idle and be charged with "terrorism" by socialist Europeans who are to chicken to fight their own fight. The only European nation with any guts at all to stand up for what is right is Britian. France, Germany, Russia, they are pawns of the arab world, all afraid and frightened that if they stood up to the arab terrorists and all the fanatics, that they would become as Israel is today, and so they would rather use Israel as their own sacrificial lamb to appease the demon religion of Islam. Europe will fall, cowards never last long on this earth. Britian I believe however is the exception.

PDM said "I didn't state my religious orientation to create an argument. I did so merely to be upfront about the person making the post." Where is the argument? I didn't post that as a hostile comment. Are you an American Jew or are you in Israel? There are lots of Christians in America who support Israel more than some of the liberal Jews in America.(again not an attack on you) I support Israel over all the Islamic countries and the dumb socialist Europeans. Christians have marched on Washington this year in support for Israel and a really large crowd has shown up. So even if Bush did not want to support Israel his entire political base does forcing him to do so although I think he really does want to help them.

PDM said "I'll state upfront that I am Jewish. I practice Orthodox, and do not subscribe to any Christian doctrine whatsoever and have no intention of doing so." Jewish people don't have to be Christians to get to heaven anyways. God's chosen people are the exception. There has to be Jewish people who don't believe Jesus is Lord anyways otherwise the Temple Mount would never get rebuilt a 3rd time and animal sacrifices would never occur on the Temple to God since the animal sacrifices are only going to be done because the Jewish people don't believe Jesus was the Lamb who died for our sins. Of course Satan will eventually stop the sacrifices because the Temple Mount won't be rebuilt until the anti-christ comes, but whe he does 3 1/2 years into the Tribulation he will declare himself God and defile the Holy Temple when he sits upon at. Then he will go out and call for the death of everyone who doesn't worship him and the only 2 groups of people who won't worship him are the Jews and the Christians.

The liberals of today have adopted a nazi mentality. They have followed in hitlers footsteps in every way possible, many of them without even realizing it. Below it I will place up quotes, these quotes will come from liberals and from communists and nazis and from this you will see that the nazis and the communists never vanished from the earth, they simply came to America during and after world war 2 and transformed this nation for the worse. Read the quotes from the people we consider evil men, then realize that what they said needed to be done to ruin America has been done, that what they believed in had come to be in America. First the liberal 'Americans' "We would like to see, in the future, what we will probably call needs-based licensing of all weapons. ...Where it would make it much more difficult for anybody to be able to purchase handguns...." Sarah Brady speech to the Women's National Democratic Club, Sept. 21, 1993 "Fundamental,Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we,the state,are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in." Nebraska State Senator, Peter Hoagland on radio in 1983 Attorney General Janet Reno, in a statement made on June 26, 1994 while on national TV: "A cultist is anyone who has a strong belief in the Bible and the second coming of Christ; who frequently attends Bible studies; who has a high level of giving to Christian causes; who home schools their children; who have accumulated survival foods and have a strong belief in the second amendment; and distrusts big government. Anyone who fits any of these characteristics is cause for concern, but someone who fits two or more of these traits is a threat, and any family exposed to this is at risk, which would require government intervention." "I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." Senator Howard Metzenbaum 1994 "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities." President Bill Clinton, 3-22-94, MTV "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." - Janet Reno "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism", they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened". Norman Thomas, for many years the U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate Now the 'evil' men we all consider vile "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration!Our streets will be safer,our policies more efficient,and the world will follow our lead into the future!" Adolph Hitler, 1935

I totally agree with this article. Arabs don't care about peace. They have been trying to push Israel into the sea since 1948 and anyone who thinks they really want peace is really blind. America needs to fully support Israel in there war on terror if our war on terror is to succeed. There can be no double standard when it comes to Israel's terrorism. They have suffered worse than America when it comes to terrorism living with it every day of their lives and being told by America that they need to continue to be gentle to the terrorists because America likes oil. If we were being constantly attacked by suicide bombers in America like they are in Israel their is no doubt in mind whatever country was sending them would be leveled by now. How can America tell Israel to hold back when we ourselves would never do such a thing. It's hypocrisy in it's highest form. Arab countries are like flies buzzing around the head of a person (Israel) and one of these days Israel is going to open up a can of whoop-ass and I for one am going to be right by their side supporting them.

Hebrews 3:8-10 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation.. Acts 13:21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years. II Sam. 5:4 David [was] thirty years old when he began to reign, [and] he reigned forty years. And as for what I am saying about 2007 people seem to misunderstand me. 2007 is the date which is the maximum amount so it seems that the antichrist can come on the scene. Sometime between now and 2007 the antichrist will make his entrance. If he does not, than I am wrong.

Blood will flow because Nuclear war will create panic, it will create contaminated people and fights for clean food and water, blood will flow, it's human nature. As for the 40 years I just saw that remark you made now, My computer crashed a few weeks ago and I have been trying to find all my Biblical information that was lost which I use when talking about scripture to other people.

johnc the purpose of the date is the time I believe that the antichrist will arise in. 1967 Israel officially recaptures its holy city and Israel is now a complete revived nation.

Blindseeker I agree with you. I too have stated the exact same thing that the threat of our total destruction which will come because Israel will be alone in the end, and we will never abandon her will come from Europe. China and Russia and other greedy nations will be used to attack the anti-christ as the bible points out russia will be supernaturally destroyed and the anti-christ will be able to take on the army to the east that is made up of two hundred thousand thousand (200,000,000) as the Bible states one nation will attain that army size. Europe is our enemy. The EU is going to grow in power and one day challenge the USA. they will eventually win.

I'm not saying these are the mark and I don't know how many of you know this but just thought those of you who don't would like to know. Everyone who has a SS card has 666 written into it. everyones card has 3 digits then a dash and 2 digits then another dash and 4 digits. Example 323-65-6869 112-76-3837 those are 2 random social security card numbers now using simple math going left to righ you can get 666 3(digits) X 2(digits) = 6 2(digits) + 4(digits) = 6 4(digits) X 3(digits) /2(digits)= 6 Note all of this goes from left to right using simple math. The startling thing about this is found in the Bible in the book of revelation. Rev 16 16. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark on their right hand, or on their foreheads: 17. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. Notice is specifically states let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast,(count-To name or list the units of a group or collection one by one in order to determine a total; number.) for it is a number of a a man, and his number is 666. Has anyone tried to get a license apply for a job to get money to buy food or anything else without a social security number? I am not saying the SS card is the mark of the beast, but I very much doubt an actual mark will be given, its to obvious. I believe it will be implimented the exact same way the SS card was. Because the SS was once optional remember? But then the government decided to make it manditory. I also think it will not be an actual item but more of a phase society goes through. Perhaps we should not take the right hand and foreheard at face value. The Bible always refers to the right hand as the correct path and the left hand as the wrong. 1 quick example. Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Is it then any surprise that the right hand is chosen for the mark? Perhaps the right hand is representing a select group of people who will be watched by the rest of society for resisting or not fitting in to societies beliefs. Those who believe in Jesus Christ could be the right hand taking the straight and narrow. The forehead could represent the mind and likewise it could be the same exact thing as the right hand representing those who refuse to go along with satan and his new control over everyone. Rev 13:14-15 14. And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. Satan is going to kill those who don't follow him. We all know that, so why have a physical mark then? Everyone who refuses his belief system is going to die, therefore why would anyone be given a physical mark? Society will be on his side, there will be more people watching for believers in Jesus Christ than there were germans looking for anyone who opposed hitler in Germany during ww2. Everyone is expecting the same thing just about. Some microchip or implant or something else like that. I fail to see how such a move would succeed when so many people oppose it. This is just something I came up with through my own experience reading the book of Revelation. Are there any reasons why this couldn't be a possible outcome?

If an asteroid did hit, it would most likely not poison the water supply. Also why is there silence in heaven for about a half and hour? Why would God give us a specific time table? I don't think it's a celestial object also because it would most likely wipe out all life on earth not just 1/3 as the Bible tells. Also an asteroid would not create 3 days of darkness it would create years, but just to get back to first part of the subject, the 1/2 hour silence in heaven. According to the University of Michigan, the diameter of the earth is 7,926 miles Lets take an example of a missile which can be fitted with nuclear bombs. AGM-86 Air-Launched Cruise Missile Primary Function: Air-to-surface strategic missile Range: AGM-86B: 1,500-plus miles (1,305 nautical miles) Speed: About 550 mph (Mach 0.73) Warheads: Nuclear capable Date Deployed: December 1982 Ok this is an old missile but it will have to do. Its range is 1500 miles speed is 550 per hour. At max range thats about 3 hours. This is from 1982. Since we are far more advanced than we were then, don't you believe that we now have the technology to launch a missile half way around the world roughly 4,000 miles and hit the target in about a half an hour? It seems reasonable to me. I think nuclear war will be used to wipe out America and America will retalliate with nuclear subs but will ultimately fall. I do not believe America will turn on Israel and as we all know Israel will be alone during the Tribulation which means one of two things for America. Either we will turn on Israel (highly unlikely with the amount of Christian support shown to Israel) or we will be destroyed. I am going out on a limb here when I say this but it is just my own theory. I believe Europe will grow ever more anti-semetic and anti-theistic over the next 5 or so years. They will then at one point launch a pre-emptive strike against America and destroy her completely. I do not see America fitting into the end times as a nation, but that is just my theory and there is no real evidence to support it. What do you guys think?

Look at how weak the church has become. It is now so weak that it cannot even hold itseld together with the same beliefs. There are 2 churches right now in the Catholic Church. One of them follows the real Bible the other makes up its own rules. Just look at Europe the statistics for Catholic clergy there are staggering. 1/3 of them don't even believe Jesus Christ really died and rose again. Many doubt Mary had a vigin child, and those in higher positions of the church are not even fighting this they are just rolling over and letting it happen. Check out this article http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news....=440739 I used to be Catholic. But now I am a Fundamentalist Christian Zionist. I didn't like the lack of faith the priests in my church had when it came to the book of Revelation and the end times. It seems the Catholic church no longer believes the book of Revelation has divine prophecy that is going to happen, or at least in my church they sure didn't. I guess they find it easier to preach about all the good stuff and not mention anything that might offend their flock. I hope I didn't offend any Catholics. The way I see it, the believers (Catholic people) are beings lead by men with no conviction, essentially unbelievers(large part of the Catholic Clergy) who don't even believe in what they preach.

I came across this site by chance and it seems like a nice place. I'd just like to say hi to everyone before I make my first post about a bible topic. I love Bible Prophecy, it has interested me for many years. When anyone else has read these verses has nuclear war ever come to mind? Rev 8:1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. 2. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. 3. And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer [it] with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 4. And the smoke of the incense, [which came] with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. 5. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6. And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. 7. The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8. And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9. And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10. And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11. And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. 12. And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. 13. And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound! 1. The half an hour of silence in heaven, the time when the nuclear missiles would traverse earth's orbit before striking its target.(And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour) 2. The loud noises flashes of lightening and earthquakes all associated with nuclear detonations. The bomb destablizes the air around its explosion causing bright flashes and loud roaring sounds along with feelings of quakes.(And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.) 3. Hail and fire mixed with blood cast on the earth. Hail in the time period of the Bible was not falling ice from the sky it was anything which came falling out of the sky that was solid. Branches,houses,people, cities all swept up in the nuclear bomb send hail and fire from the burning bomb and its debre along with the blood of the hundreds of thousands if not millions it consumes..(The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up) 4. The nuclear explosions, "like a great mountain, burning with fire" burning away everything in its path. 5. The deadly contamination of water followed by the nuclear attacks which poisons everything in radiation. In the Bible poison is "Wormwood".(And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter) 6. Large dust clouds would blanket the earth blocking out the sun moon and starts (And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. )