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  1. The soul that is not forsaken is where Christ presently is crucified. Be careful how you hear ...
  2. It's the first commandment as it is the first feast that we keep, which without we cannot be taught of Christ who is in us, let alone enter and remain in the word that is revealed. But there is a laying down of your soul and a picking back up of it again.
  3. To me this is not an interpretation but a present truth I am living, or abiding in, which defines the creation to me as the language of my father revealing the process of the path back into the captivity that the Word of God is, but how many words does it take to define one Word … God or truth (which is not measurable by thought, which done (in the order found in first the Ishmael/Adam/Esau/Hagar/Egypt as the first tabernacle and the picture of the one rejected that flows from Abraham's perception of God, which you see the same thing with what the word of God or a dream from God becomes to the one who receives it ... it is a pattern that applies to all things just as much as it is the defining of the process in each of us) makes truth into a merchandised to be gained and becomes the revealing of our nakedness truth of oneself not being separate from knowledge, but defined by it as much as the law of our mother is defined by the commandment of our Father ... life/truth/God) is revealed in the moment. It's hard to say fifty things at once, and why the word written out can become a path of a serpent to the one who reads it as if he were gaining something. A servant does not abide in the house forever, which as far as the inheritance is concerned (which is God) to a son, all things that the Father has, has always been yours/ours from before the beginning, which includes knowledge, which defines what the year of jubilee is and the pictures thereof, to our soul. Adam (the image) and the woman (his soul) did not keep the feast of Passover, and therefore from this deep sleep his nakedness was revealed, which began the second feast one is called up to Jerusalem to keep (but first the natural .... along came eve (named by Adam) as the mother or perception of all living). I had begun writing this with only the thought of the words, it's hard to say fifty things at once, but yet it pales compared to what I see which increases daily ... exponentially. This is the truth found in this verse that I am living, and is the inheritance of every son whether they understand the meaning of it yet or not, only God reveals God and this in every son that is God. Micah 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it. For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever. And if He has led me to the conclusion that, for instance, Genesis 1 is to be taken as more mythical than historical? God speaks to us in picture form, cities, sons, mountains, fields, wilderness, serpent, brass, tree, cross, river, garden, sealed, enclosed, bread, meat, heaven, earth, etc. and how these things relate to the person, or persons that these things surround, all of which speak to the process of the son being revealed in us both individual and collectively, which is a coming out of one thing by coming into another, if it could be put into such feeble words. We are living in the time where God is turning to us a pure language, a language he alone defines, and which is in the confines of every son, or as a tree whose seed or life is in itself. As our Father ... we do not labor by thought to be, knowledge not being something separate from self. Neither do we prove that we are, which is the same temptation in a different form to eat of our own reasoning based on our five senses of an image that is without us which becomes the husband that is not our own (speaking from the feminine revealing, which equates to our soul, and finds its definition in the pictures found in the three's such as, Abraham's three men, Daniels three friends, Noah's three sons, Job's three friends, Nebuchadnezzar's three Hebrew children, or in the words of Leah when she bore Levi (priesthood), the third son, saying now will my husband be joined unto me ... the pictures of these things are endless, and come in exhaustive forms, both in the truth and the anti forms due to the perception given to us by the tree of knowledge). The language of God is summed up in one word, which is God, and every son is a word of this language, as our thoughts equate to us. With that somewhat said ... The wilderness, depending on where one is viewing it in the moment, links itself with the second feast (all seven equating itself with the creative week of which the threefold manifestation of this is found in the book of Revelation), one is called up to Jerusalem to keep (first the natural) which brings confusion or a wandering around between two (dialectic) mountains, sons, or fruits of a tree, etc. which the true feast the wilderness represents (and the nakedness that is revealed in this as it was in the first garden, being a picture of the same thing in a different form) is found in the acceptable year as a place where we eat that which grows of itself, being the 50th year (Pentecost/knowledge) and equates itself with the liberty of a son, which is the perception given to us of our Father, as a feast that is internal and an unending fellowship. The interesting thing about the knowledge of God is we must continually keep the feast of Passover which is seen in the words thou shalt not eat as it is in picking up our cross (being that there is a serpent in the path of every son), and the tree yields it's fruit to us without ever having touched it (a facet of Paul's touch not the unclean thing). I have found to build a city out of any one truth cause our journey in to end, until we sacrifice that truth that became filled with worms by keeping it over a day. Sorry its so long, but I didn't want to beat around the bush. No problem at all. As you might have seen, my posts can be rather long as well. I find your approach interesting. It seems very much founded in the style of typology, which you don't see very much of these days. I'm also seeing shades of mysticism as well, which I border on at times depending where the conversation is going. Very interesting read.
  4. Shorter version ... To understand a language you must think in that language.
  5. And if He has led me to the conclusion that, for instance, Genesis 1 is to be taken as more mythical than historical? God speaks to us in picture form, cities, sons, mountains, fields, wilderness, serpent, brass, tree, cross, river, garden, sealed, enclosed, bread, meat, heaven, earth, etc. and how these things relate to the person, or persons that these things surround, all of which speak to the process of the son being revealed in us both individual and collectively, which is a coming out of one thing by coming into another, if it could be put into such feeble words. We are living in the time where God is turning to us a pure language, a language he alone defines, and which is in the confines of every son, or as a tree whose seed or life is in itself. As our Father ... we do not labor by thought to be, knowledge not being something separate from self. Neither do we prove that we are, which is the same temptation in a different form to eat of our own reasoning based on our five senses of an image that is without us which becomes the husband that is not our own (speaking from the feminine revealing, which equates to our soul, and finds its definition in the pictures found in the three's such as, Abraham's three men, Daniels three friends, Noah's three sons, Job's three friends, Nebuchadnezzar's three Hebrew children, or in the words of Leah when she bore Levi (priesthood), the third son, saying now will my husband be joined unto me ... the pictures of these things are endless, and come in exhaustive forms, both in the truth and the anti forms due to the perception given to us by the tree of knowledge). The language of God is summed up in one word, which is God, and every son is a word of this language, as our thoughts equate to us. With that somewhat said ... The wilderness, depending on where one is viewing it in the moment, links itself with the second feast (all seven equating itself with the creative week of which the threefold manifestation of this is found in the book of Revelation), one is called up to Jerusalem to keep (first the natural) which brings confusion or a wandering around between two (dialectic) mountains, sons, or fruits of a tree, etc. which the true feast the wilderness represents (and the nakedness that is revealed in this as it was in the first garden, being a picture of the same thing in a different form) is found in the acceptable year as a place where we eat that which grows of itself, being the 50th year (Pentecost/knowledge) and equates itself with the liberty of a son, which is the perception given to us of our Father, as a feast that is internal and an unending fellowship. The interesting thing about the knowledge of God is we must continually keep the feast of Passover which is seen in the words thou shalt not eat as it is in picking up our cross (being that there is a serpent in the path of every son), and the tree yields it's fruit to us without ever having touched it (a facet of Paul's touch not the unclean thing). I have found to build a city out of any one truth cause our journey in to end, until we sacrifice that truth that became filled with worms by keeping it over a day. Sorry its so long, but I didn't want to beat around the bush.
  6. If it is indeed the word of God, then it is the language of God, and one must have God's interpretation of his own words which only the spirit that proceeded from the Father who is now in us can lead us into.
  7. The key to the time frame is found in why this became a factor in the first place, and how the perception of Abram is what lead to it, just as the eating of the tree lead to the same bondage for Adam as it did for Cain. Numbers do not depict quantities but speak to truths that relate to a son being revealed in us, and this on the individual level, as well as collectively. Man was created on the sixth day, 24 hours in a day, 144 hours, which is the measurement of a man, and the cubits of the wall of the city, as it is the fruit that the tree of life produces every year. The language of God is only defined by God, so the Bible defines itself as to what a city, tower, pillar, tree, well, thirty, one forty, two forties, seven, seventy, three, tabernacle, temple, cross, sin, image, etc. is.
  8. For this specific meaning that you want, I think you would need now real Bible scholars... Seriously though, if you want to know exactly "why the Bible said it," then the person to ask is the writer himself -- God himself -- and not us. We can only give you our best interpretations of what has already been written... and not why those had been written in the first place. Besides, your original question was about the probable significance of Joseph being sold to his relatives, and that implies an analysis of the big picture. And so, yes, I still think that what I said -- that it was probably because God wanted to keep this matter within the family -- is a good reason why Joseph was sold to his relatives instead of other peoples. ~ It didn't stay that way long ... Gen 39:1 And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither.
  9. Because it was the mentality of flesh (not spirit) that sent Jesus to the cross, and Joseph to a pit. It's the consistent pattern through scripture, that our own reasoning which equates itself with the labor to be is what crucifies the truth, not only the literal son of God/Jesus but for each of us, who are the same as sons, and why Paul said to bring every thought (our own reasoning) into the obedience of Christ which starts out by picking up our cross, this was the lesson that Joseph learned and the lesson Jesus taught to an absolute. The pattern of the two sons starts in Genesis, as an inheritance (which can be tied into the Abraham's exceeding and great reward as it can with John's Behold now are we the sons of God) that was divided in the sons of Adam (of which the heaven and earth, and the first heaven and earth and the new heaven and earth speak to in their perspective order), Ishmael is like a Cain, or an Esau just as Adam became the same picture of this as the first born through the same process of thought ... if that makes senses.
  10. ummm...I don't think so. Brother will betray brother kind of rings a bell...I'm not saying I necessairly disagree with you, but I think there is often a practical understanding to the 'spiritual' truths... we still flesh and blood after all Interesting question BTW Joseph was a picture of Christ as a seed (and all the things surrounding it which I won't go into), as it is this seed in us as an earthen vessel that this treasure is hid, but the story depicts the same truth from Genesis to the cross, that we don't labor by thought to become, but it is the liberty of one born in his Father's house, and to which we are partakers of through faith (to know where we come from, or where we are going, so is everyone born of the spirit/God). This mentality (seen in Sarah that through a bondwoman she would bring about the promise of God) which is a product of the seed/thought of a serpent, is what hung truth on a tree, and becomes the image (Flesh/Egypt) one must overcome by the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ as something we have, and to which everyone bows their knee to. The Bible is one cohesive narrative. I don't think you understood me...... As far as his brothers betraying him/us ? (this is included in my (all things surrounding him, as to not go into any detail so the post does not become to long) this is the scripture about Joesph having the preeminence, being separated from his brethren which as Dak and FresnoJoe showed the same truth concerning the purpose of God as Joseph himself also stated as being of the order of God.
  11. ummm...I don't think so. Brother will betray brother kind of rings a bell...I'm not saying I necessairly disagree with you, but I think there is often a practical understanding to the 'spiritual' truths... we still flesh and blood after all Interesting question BTW Joseph was a picture of Christ as a seed (and all the things surrounding it which I won't go into), as it is this seed in us as an earthen vessel that this treasure is hid, but the story depicts the same truth from Genesis to the cross, that we don't labor by thought to become, but it is the liberty of one born in his Father's house, and to which we are partakers of through faith (to know where we come from, or where we are going, so is everyone born of the spirit/God). This mentality (seen in Sarah that through a bondwoman she would bring about the promise of God) which is a product of the seed/thought of a serpent, is what hung truth on a tree, and becomes the image (Flesh/Egypt) one must overcome by the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ as something we have, and to which everyone bows their knee to. The Bible is one cohesive narrative.
  12. The question cannot be understood outside of how this scripture in picture relates to us concerning Christ in us, and the process of this truth. Gen 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. Paul goes a little ways into this in his letter to the Galatians.
  13. To speak to the original post ... The three you refer to cannot be interpreted without all the other three's in scripture that define all together what these things mean in the language of God, and how they relate to us, and the process of his son being revealed in us, for instance where God appears to Abraham as three men, or the three feasts one is called up to Jerusalem to keep, or the three layers of Noah's ark, or Moses' tabernacle etc.
  14. Everything in this story down to the finest detail speak to the scenario in the first garden, and the outcome as it applies to us and our perception of truth as concerning self, which is found in the pattern Moses saw in the mount. You have to look at these things in the light of the whole of scripture to define what the particulars are speaking to, for instance, those the brothers sold them to were going down to Egypt carrying burial spices where in picture, Joseph becomes the seed that impregnates Egypt, which becomes the tabernacle (again in picture form) that is rejected, it being of bondage and sore labor. Many times multiple things are used to describe one truth as it applies to us, but all of it testifies to the truth (Jesus Christ) and the process of the revealing of this truth in us.
  15. Just to throw it out there ... 30 years in scripture is the beginning of service in the temple. The biblical year is 360 days, times the years they spent in bondage 400 equals 144,000 days, same as the number of those sealed in Revelation.
  16. An example of the language of God (who speaks to us in picture form, in feasts, moons, stars, sand, mountains, cities, tree's a lamb) ... What is the moon a picture of ... Gen 37:9-10 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? But we don't stop here ... Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: In this verse the moon is further defined, or narrowed down further as being appointed for seasons (anyone who has been a christian long begin to understand these seasons, which are likened to mountains and valleys as well) ... Psa 104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down. So a spiritual picture begins to emerge of what the moon speaks to us in picture form, but it does not end with this, as the scripture defines further what the moon is in relationship to the son, which speaks to the birthing of this truth, or as Paul put it, the son revealed in us as the purpose of God. In the following verses it is likened to (part of) creation, and the creating of images out of them with the intent to worship them as God, which is purely a soul thing or defined by our own reasoning. Deu 4:14-19 And the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it. Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air, The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth: And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. God linked his feasts according to these seasons (among other things), but we find that the new moons (for one example) become the Jews perception of what these feasts are and the keeping of them as opposed to what God perceives them to be. Isa 1:13-14 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. Joh 5:1 After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. The feasts that associate themselves with the full moon are the same feasts (first and last feast) one is called up to Jerusalem to keep, which brings more to the definition of the word. Paul begins in Galatians to define Jerusalem, dividing between the two woman (and the two seeds of a woman), or mothers one is birthed of which is the perception of who we are, just like the two wisdom's that James spoke about. I will not go any farther than this, but this is barely scratching the surface of how the word (and this word moon) defines itself as something that is gleaned from the entire Bible along with it being seen in the creation, and how these things speak and relate to the process in us along with entering into the heavenly Jerusalem (who Paul likened to the mother of us all), which is a truth that is present just as much as the veil to the most holy place was rent so that all who would enter would do so freely the price having been paid. Just a note ... in these verses Paul said unbelievers had the word of God in their mouth (not mention in their heart/mind). Rom 10:8-9 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. And in this verse Caiaphas spoke the words of God not even knowing he had, not understanding the truth that was in his mouth Joh 11:47-51 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And Peter said if any man speak, let him speak in this fashion, which He received from Jesus who reiterated that his words were not his own. 1Pe 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God ... Pro 6:2 Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth. The difference between being snared and not being snared is the knowledge of the words that were spoken, and where it comes from, which ties in with the moon and the defining of what this word is.
  17. God did have the Bible written in a manner that can be understood. Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the Lord, “Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool. We really want to understand what you're communicating and I'm sure you want to be understood. Can you work with us a little? Maybe we could try with the portion of your post OneLight posted: "The mentality of bondage/curse/or labor to become, is not a partaker in the promise, the promise being something that is given (received by faith as being yours presently), and in symbolism is like the moon, shinning but having no light of it's own which in scripture speaks of the woman, as the woman in picture speaks to our soul." How about just explaining the bolded part? It is part of the language of God. We don't labor by thought (this relates to a woman and the birthing of a son, who is a picture of our soul, as an eating of the tree to become, or by thought add a cubit to your stature) to become a son (which is first seen in Abraham, that through his son (a picture of Jesus, that Abraham would receive his exceeding and great reward by and through, which extends to all mankind that God would be all in all, or all the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of God and his Christ) which takes for each of us a cross (the pouring out of our soul, or forsaking our own reasoning based on a truth outside of us) both to see and to enter into what we see through faith in the workmanship of God, that what he started he finished, and is based on the words that ended the labor of Jesus who finished his Father's work, God having counted the cost before ever building his house which is the same lesson that we must learn. If it were plain there would be no need of one to teach us, let alone looking to others outside of the spirit of truth that proceeded from the Father (that is now in us) to teach you, and lead you into a kingdom that Jesus said was in inside of us, and the all truth that he said he would lead us into, which again, is this kingdom appointed to us, or given as it was for Jesus of his Father, which he likened the entering into as being born of water and spirit.
  18. I'm not the teacher, the teacher is in you. This is what Adam didn't know and what we neglect. I am not asking you to teach me anything, just write in a manner that can be understood. I know your not ... but you would have thought God would have had the Bible written in such a manner as well. Our reasoning out of the word brings us no more closer to God then the eating of the tree of knowledge did in the beginning, it merely becomes a line upon line. This is what Paul referred to as ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth, and Jesus spoke to as being the cross one must pick up to be taught of him, or to come to this knowledge of all truth.
  19. I'm not the teacher, the teacher is in you. This is what Adam didn't know and what we neglect.
  20. I talk in the light of the whole Bible, to post the scriptures would make for a post that could take hours to relate as it can in one sentence be found, that took a moment to write. The word of God to us is this same unveiling in us, and it a treasure in each of us that can't be bought without selling all that you have. With that said ... Consider that Sarah sees that her son is mocked by her son that is of the bondwoman that relates to her bringing forth the promise that God gave Abraham (and only God can fulfill, as a truth relating to the process that Paul called the revealing of the son in him) in us through flesh which equates to a laboring to be righteousness, or accepted. Paul says that these are the two covenants, one of bondage, one of liberty, one from below one from above, just as James said of the two wisdoms, which are not a separate truth but more acquainted with in scripture of one leaf that is one portion of the covering of the tree that we are. The mentality of bondage/curse/or labor to become, is not a partaker in the promise, the promise being something that is given (received by faith as being yours presently), and in symbolism is like the moon, shinning but having no light of it's own which in scripture speaks of the woman, as the woman in picture speaks to our soul. It deals with perception that is as individual as every son, but also which every soul with this image of this son that must be poured out or become desolate (a cross, or thou shalt not eat) in order to enter into the kingdom that being born again affords you to see. You find this pattern everywhere in scripture, as you can see it in the progression of the two cities in the book of Revelation. They all speak to the process of this son being revealed in us. You see, in the natural, the language of God is all around us. It is why Jesus said such things as the kingdom of God is likened to a woman, or a seed, or a tree, or a man and the journey of that man, and it's truth like a city on a hill, or a light that gives light to the whole house. It is individual first just as the kingdom is in each of us, and we are one in this kingdom. The journey is there and back again but from the perception of having descended or born from above. We are in the process of returning to where we came from. The whole of creation speaks to this process and the bondage it is still held under as it is the manifestation (of the sons of God) of this truth which will release it from this perception of bondage.
  21. The word divides between spirit and soul, or the masculine and the feminine, and by this I mean the whole word of the Bible, even as it is the one word that the Bible declares. For instance how Jesus likens the kingdom to things a man or a woman do (among the other things that he likened it to but all of them falling within the confines of these two in respect to how it plays out in us). This can be seen in the case with Job who gets new children but not a new wife (and the symbolism found in the gender and numbers of children), which is found in Jesus words over Jerusalem as a mother and her children, which was a picture of the earthly where the Lord was crucified. If we lose our soul, or our land becomes desolate, or even in another way, becomes to us the habitation of everything that is foul, we keep it. The heavenly Jerusalem is not revealed until the earthly becomes desolate, lose your soul, gain it. Same soul, different perception or children. Desolation brings truth to us, just as the picture Jesus as an end of sin laid out for us by pouring his soul out on a cross, or tree, which symbolism goes back to the first garden where the lamb was slain from the foundation of the world (not the earth), this slaying of the truth being by our own reasoning, of our own tree, which in picture is the tree of knowledge, and in the day (which Adam never made it out of the sixth day falling seventy years short), we eat of our own (not the lords day, which is rest from the labor). Though the symbolism of these things have no end to them, the relationship our soul plays in this process of time of the scattering and the gathering again unto one, brings to us the true image, even as it previously gendered to bondage from an image that was a lie. This in one form is laid out in the two sons as a truth that is happening in us based on the words heaven and earth (first the natural), where the pattern began. The Bible is cohesive, one narrative speaking of one son, and this in relationship to this one truth being revealed in us, as it was in Jesus. God started with one, and narrowed it back to one, and now we each are partakers of this one, as individuals and as the sum of the whole, revealing one God, one Father ,and one son, but all this comes to us in the form of the perception given to us by our soul. In scripture our soul and the process of our reasoning are depicted as a mountain, a valley, a city, a tower, a harlot, a virgin, a bride, a wife (both faithful and unfaithful), a field, a wilderness, a land, a tree, etc. which give us its meaning in the context of the whole of the scripture as it does in the one verse and to which one cannot be defined without the other, as this also applies to every individual and the sum of the whole of us. The Bible defines language of God which is seen all around us, and how it relates to the one truth that he created all things by, and both by whom and how he gathers all things back into where they came out of. The first helpmeet was the woman who in picture is our soul, which revealed our nakedness. The second helpmeet is masculine, or when he is come he will guide you into all truth.
  22. Some more thoughts on the kingdom that is God in us ... When we read the book of Job through to its end, we find that God was calling Job to turn from the hearing of the ear and in this turning giving him the portion of the first born, which was a turning from his own reasoning, which is that of a man and whose end is no different than a beast of the field. Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. A good question in reference to the question are we equal with God would be, did Jesus think himself any less than "I am" when he was hungry after having fasted in the wilderness, or when he was weary and sat down on Jacob's well? This kingdom that is God's and granted to us through the relationship, or fellowship of the Father and son has no end to it's increase being God is without measure, but so is every son. The increase of this is in our perception which only God gives. But the reason we don't experience more of this increase as it relates to who we are is because we don't believe 100% that we are a son of God. It only takes one thought out of the ninety nine to be lost to fall short of the Truth that has no darkness in it at all, and in whom we are in, regardless if we understand this or not. This is the lesson of the not eating of your own reasoning, which played out in Jesus walk constantly as a feast/Passover that he kept inwardly and by this became it outwardly, living the acceptable year with it's feasts it not being just a hearing of the ear to him as it was to those that he read the passage to that day when they gave him the book. We drink the same cup and are baptized with the same baptism, we each have a cross, and a serpent in our path, or an image that is a lie, all of this based on our soul and the reasoning based on or seeded by that which is outside of us. We must kick the serpent out of our garden, he is a liar and the father of it, for there is only one father and he is not our adversary. To Job the son of man was a worm, to Jesus, which perception was given to him of his Father, the son of man was the son of God. Perception is everything to us. We don't by thought become, nor by thought prove that we are, instead we bring every thought into the obedience of Christ. Anything less is exalting yourself by thought above God, which is tantamount to setting your throne above his. The spirit of adoption is not a standalone truth, and must be coupled with other scriptures such as, He that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit, or Jesus' dialogue with those who were going to stone him for making himself equal with God, by saying he was the son of God; even though Jesus expressed to them that it was written in their law already, as something that could not be broken. Or Paul's equating each if us in Galatians as this one seed, a therefore are you that seed. This does not take into account our relationship to him as a bride (both individual and as the whole), or him as our husband (or he who has the bride is the bride groom), which is about identity not gender, to which God referred to Israel as such as well as referring to them as his first born. You cannot come to God unless you believe that he is, in the same way you cannot become a son of God unless you believe that you are. Faith manifests the works we walk in. The only limitation that is put on this is the limitation we put on it with our soul (and why there is a cross for every son), which is where truth/the lamb was crucified at in the first garden, our own reasoning, this being the foundation of the world (not the earth), and why the cross by Peter was expressed as being hung on a tree which equates to the law of our mind that brings us under subjection. This is the same as the kingdom of God, which God appointed to Jesus and Jesus appointed to us. The kingdom of God is not separate from the will of God and the purpose he purposed in himself, which purpose is found in Paul's words, that God might be all in all, which of the increase of this kingdom in us there is no end of being that it is God's kingdom. Perception is everything to us.
  23. That's right x141, good work here. We see his kingdom in our hearts and minds through the love of the Holy Spirit, through believing and confessing. Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. I started this topic with the only purpose I do anything anymore, that is to show the immeasurable truth that Christ/kingdom/God/Father/Son/husband as a seed is in us, and the fellowship of this one truth, who has been made all things to us. We so measure God with our soul and in this oppose ourselves, and each other.
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