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  1. The soul that is not forsaken is where Christ presently is crucified. Be careful how you hear ...
  2. It's the first commandment as it is the first feast that we keep, which without we cannot be taught of Christ who is in us, let alone enter and remain in the word that is revealed. But there is a laying down of your soul and a picking back up of it again.
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To me this is not an interpretation but a present truth I am living, or abiding in, which defines the creation to me as the language of my father revealing the process of the path back into the captivity that the Word of God is, but how many words does it take to define one Word … God or truth (which is not measurable by thought, which done (in the order found in first the Ishmael/Adam/Esau/Hagar/Egypt as the first tabernacle and the picture of the one rejected that flows from Abraham's perception of God, which you see the same thing with what the word of God or a dream from God becomes to the one who receives it ... it is a pattern that applies to all things just as much as it is the defining of the process in each of us) makes truth into a merchandised to be gained and becomes the revealing of our nakedness truth of oneself not being separate from knowledge, but defined by it as much as the law of our mother is defined by the commandment of our Father ... life/truth/God) is revealed in the moment. It's hard to say fifty things at once, and why the word written out can become a path of a serpent to the one who reads it as if he were gaining something. A servant does not abide in the house forever, which as far as the inheritance is concerned (which is God) to a son, all things that the Father has, has always been yours/ours from before the beginning, which includes knowledge, which defines what the year of jubilee is and the pictures thereof, to our soul. Adam (the image) and the woman (his soul) did not keep the feast of Passover, and therefore from this deep sleep his nakedness was revealed, which began the second feast one is called up to Jerusalem to keep (but first the natural .... along came eve (named by Adam) as the mother or perception of all living). I had begun writing this with only the thought of the words, it's hard to say fifty things at once, but yet it pales compared to what I see which increases daily ... exponentially. This is the truth found in this verse that I am living, and is the inheritance of every son whether they understand the meaning of it yet or not, only God reveals God and this in every son that is God. Micah 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it. For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever. And if He has led me to the conclusion that, for instance, Genesis 1 is to be taken as more mythical than historical? God speaks to us in picture form, cities, sons, mountains, fields, wilderness, serpent, brass, tree, cross, river, garden, sealed, enclosed, bread, meat, heaven, earth, etc. and how these things relate to the person, or persons that these things surround, all of which speak to the process of the son being revealed in us both individual and collectively, which is a coming out of one thing by coming into another, if it could be put into such feeble words. We are living in the time where God is turning to us a pure language, a language he alone defines, and which is in the confines of every son, or as a tree whose seed or life is in itself. As our Father ... we do not labor by thought to be, knowledge not being something separate from self. Neither do we prove that we are, which is the same temptation in a different form to eat of our own reasoning based on our five senses of an image that is without us which becomes the husband that is not our own (speaking from the feminine revealing, which equates to our soul, and finds its definition in the pictures found in the three's such as, Abraham's three men, Daniels three friends, Noah's three sons, Job's three friends, Nebuchadnezzar's three Hebrew children, or in the words of Leah when she bore Levi (priesthood), the third son, saying now will my husband be joined unto me ... the pictures of these things are endless, and come in exhaustive forms, both in the truth and the anti forms due to the perception given to us by the tree of knowledge). The language of God is summed up in one word, which is God, and every son is a word of this language, as our thoughts equate to us. With that somewhat said ... The wilderness, depending on where one is viewing it in the moment, links itself with the second feast (all seven equating itself with the creative week of which the threefold manifestation of this is found in the book of Revelation), one is called up to Jerusalem to keep (first the natural) which brings confusion or a wandering around between two (dialectic) mountains, sons, or fruits of a tree, etc. which the true feast the wilderness represents (and the nakedness that is revealed in this as it was in the first garden, being a picture of the same thing in a different form) is found in the acceptable year as a place where we eat that which grows of itself, being the 50th year (Pentecost/knowledge) and equates itself with the liberty of a son, which is the perception given to us of our Father, as a feast that is internal and an unending fellowship. The interesting thing about the knowledge of God is we must continually keep the feast of Passover which is seen in the words thou shalt not eat as it is in picking up our cross (being that there is a serpent in the path of every son), and the tree yields it's fruit to us without ever having touched it (a facet of Paul's touch not the unclean thing). I have found to build a city out of any one truth cause our journey in to end, until we sacrifice that truth that became filled with worms by keeping it over a day. Sorry its so long, but I didn't want to beat around the bush. No problem at all. As you might have seen, my posts can be rather long as well. I find your approach interesting. It seems very much founded in the style of typology, which you don't see very much of these days. I'm also seeing shades of mysticism as well, which I border on at times depending where the conversation is going. Very interesting read.
  4. Shorter version ... To understand a language you must think in that language.
  5. And if He has led me to the conclusion that, for instance, Genesis 1 is to be taken as more mythical than historical? God speaks to us in picture form, cities, sons, mountains, fields, wilderness, serpent, brass, tree, cross, river, garden, sealed, enclosed, bread, meat, heaven, earth, etc. and how these things relate to the person, or persons that these things surround, all of which speak to the process of the son being revealed in us both individual and collectively, which is a coming out of one thing by coming into another, if it could be put into such feeble words. We are living in the time where God is turning to us a pure language, a language he alone defines, and which is in the confines of every son, or as a tree whose seed or life is in itself. As our Father ... we do not labor by thought to be, knowledge not being something separate from self. Neither do we prove that we are, which is the same temptation in a different form to eat of our own reasoning based on our five senses of an image that is without us which becomes the husband that is not our own (speaking from the feminine revealing, which equates to our soul, and finds its definition in the pictures found in the three's such as, Abraham's three men, Daniels three friends, Noah's three sons, Job's three friends, Nebuchadnezzar's three Hebrew children, or in the words of Leah when she bore Levi (priesthood), the third son, saying now will my husband be joined unto me ... the pictures of these things are endless, and come in exhaustive forms, both in the truth and the anti forms due to the perception given to us by the tree of knowledge). The language of God is summed up in one word, which is God, and every son is a word of this language, as our thoughts equate to us. With that somewhat said ... The wilderness, depending on where one is viewing it in the moment, links itself with the second feast (all seven equating itself with the creative week of which the threefold manifestation of this is found in the book of Revelation), one is called up to Jerusalem to keep (first the natural) which brings confusion or a wandering around between two (dialectic) mountains, sons, or fruits of a tree, etc. which the true feast the wilderness represents (and the nakedness that is revealed in this as it was in the first garden, being a picture of the same thing in a different form) is found in the acceptable year as a place where we eat that which grows of itself, being the 50th year (Pentecost/knowledge) and equates itself with the liberty of a son, which is the perception given to us of our Father, as a feast that is internal and an unending fellowship. The interesting thing about the knowledge of God is we must continually keep the feast of Passover which is seen in the words thou shalt not eat as it is in picking up our cross (being that there is a serpent in the path of every son), and the tree yields it's fruit to us without ever having touched it (a facet of Paul's touch not the unclean thing). I have found to build a city out of any one truth cause our journey in to end, until we sacrifice that truth that became filled with worms by keeping it over a day. Sorry its so long, but I didn't want to beat around the bush.
  6. If it is indeed the word of God, then it is the language of God, and one must have God's interpretation of his own words which only the spirit that proceeded from the Father who is now in us can lead us into.
  7. The key to the time frame is found in why this became a factor in the first place, and how the perception of Abram is what lead to it, just as the eating of the tree lead to the same bondage for Adam as it did for Cain. Numbers do not depict quantities but speak to truths that relate to a son being revealed in us, and this on the individual level, as well as collectively. Man was created on the sixth day, 24 hours in a day, 144 hours, which is the measurement of a man, and the cubits of the wall of the city, as it is the fruit that the tree of life produces every year. The language of God is only defined by God, so the Bible defines itself as to what a city, tower, pillar, tree, well, thirty, one forty, two forties, seven, seventy, three, tabernacle, temple, cross, sin, image, etc. is.
  8. For this specific meaning that you want, I think you would need now real Bible scholars... Seriously though, if you want to know exactly "why the Bible said it," then the person to ask is the writer himself -- God himself -- and not us. We can only give you our best interpretations of what has already been written... and not why those had been written in the first place. Besides, your original question was about the probable significance of Joseph being sold to his relatives, and that implies an analysis of the big picture. And so, yes, I still think that what I said -- that it was probably because God wanted to keep this matter within the family -- is a good reason why Joseph was sold to his relatives instead of other peoples. ~ It didn't stay that way long ... Gen 39:1 And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither.
  9. Because it was the mentality of flesh (not spirit) that sent Jesus to the cross, and Joseph to a pit. It's the consistent pattern through scripture, that our own reasoning which equates itself with the labor to be is what crucifies the truth, not only the literal son of God/Jesus but for each of us, who are the same as sons, and why Paul said to bring every thought (our own reasoning) into the obedience of Christ which starts out by picking up our cross, this was the lesson that Joseph learned and the lesson Jesus taught to an absolute. The pattern of the two sons starts in Genesis, as an inheritance (which can be tied into the Abraham's exceeding and great reward as it can with John's Behold now are we the sons of God) that was divided in the sons of Adam (of which the heaven and earth, and the first heaven and earth and the new heaven and earth speak to in their perspective order), Ishmael is like a Cain, or an Esau just as Adam became the same picture of this as the first born through the same process of thought ... if that makes senses.
  10. ummm...I don't think so. Brother will betray brother kind of rings a bell...I'm not saying I necessairly disagree with you, but I think there is often a practical understanding to the 'spiritual' truths... we still flesh and blood after all Interesting question BTW Joseph was a picture of Christ as a seed (and all the things surrounding it which I won't go into), as it is this seed in us as an earthen vessel that this treasure is hid, but the story depicts the same truth from Genesis to the cross, that we don't labor by thought to become, but it is the liberty of one born in his Father's house, and to which we are partakers of through faith (to know where we come from, or where we are going, so is everyone born of the spirit/God). This mentality (seen in Sarah that through a bondwoman she would bring about the promise of God) which is a product of the seed/thought of a serpent, is what hung truth on a tree, and becomes the image (Flesh/Egypt) one must overcome by the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ as something we have, and to which everyone bows their knee to. The Bible is one cohesive narrative. I don't think you understood me...... As far as his brothers betraying him/us ? (this is included in my (all things surrounding him, as to not go into any detail so the post does not become to long) this is the scripture about Joesph having the preeminence, being separated from his brethren which as Dak and FresnoJoe showed the same truth concerning the purpose of God as Joseph himself also stated as being of the order of God.
  11. ummm...I don't think so. Brother will betray brother kind of rings a bell...I'm not saying I necessairly disagree with you, but I think there is often a practical understanding to the 'spiritual' truths... we still flesh and blood after all Interesting question BTW Joseph was a picture of Christ as a seed (and all the things surrounding it which I won't go into), as it is this seed in us as an earthen vessel that this treasure is hid, but the story depicts the same truth from Genesis to the cross, that we don't labor by thought to become, but it is the liberty of one born in his Father's house, and to which we are partakers of through faith (to know where we come from, or where we are going, so is everyone born of the spirit/God). This mentality (seen in Sarah that through a bondwoman she would bring about the promise of God) which is a product of the seed/thought of a serpent, is what hung truth on a tree, and becomes the image (Flesh/Egypt) one must overcome by the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ as something we have, and to which everyone bows their knee to. The Bible is one cohesive narrative.
  12. The question cannot be understood outside of how this scripture in picture relates to us concerning Christ in us, and the process of this truth. Gen 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. Paul goes a little ways into this in his letter to the Galatians.
  13. To speak to the original post ... The three you refer to cannot be interpreted without all the other three's in scripture that define all together what these things mean in the language of God, and how they relate to us, and the process of his son being revealed in us, for instance where God appears to Abraham as three men, or the three feasts one is called up to Jerusalem to keep, or the three layers of Noah's ark, or Moses' tabernacle etc.
  14. Everything in this story down to the finest detail speak to the scenario in the first garden, and the outcome as it applies to us and our perception of truth as concerning self, which is found in the pattern Moses saw in the mount. You have to look at these things in the light of the whole of scripture to define what the particulars are speaking to, for instance, those the brothers sold them to were going down to Egypt carrying burial spices where in picture, Joseph becomes the seed that impregnates Egypt, which becomes the tabernacle (again in picture form) that is rejected, it being of bondage and sore labor. Many times multiple things are used to describe one truth as it applies to us, but all of it testifies to the truth (Jesus Christ) and the process of the revealing of this truth in us.
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