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What is the church told?

Then you have a problem But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. 42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. 45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then that is not addressed to the church as that is part of the of the original question when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” Then this is clearly also not for the church since Israel is the only one told to keep watch and not the church. 25 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. 6 “And at midnight a cry was heard:‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming;[a] go out to meet him!’ 7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. 11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ 12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour[b] in which the Son of Man is coming So what we have now is Israel is taken and the church is left behind as Christ doesn't know the church.

So youre saying....Jesus speaking to his disciples is not His Church for 51 verses concerning events in the future and we are to believe that this chapter doesn’t apply to the Church? Is Christ speaking to Pharisees? To conclude that his disciples are not the church? So for all intents and purposes as far as the church is concerned we should disregarded Matthew 24?

Could you explain what this means Rev 11:18 The time has come for judging the dead,

Actually God's wrath begins at the 7th trumpet, hence why we get the bowls of wrath.

100% I did err, but not where you think I did. [Were somthing] like crowns is where I focused on, instead of like gold "Like" crowns is Hos in Ntgreek and it is an adverb, adverbs don't modify nouns. Certainly "like" gold is homoios in Ntgreek and yes that is an adjective which does modify the noun. And yes similar to gold. Nevertheless homoios like i. e. corresponding or equivalent to, the same as: ὅμοιον τούτοις τρόπον, Jude 1:7; equal in strength, Revelation 13:4; in power and attractions, Revelation 18:18; in authority, Is enough to refute your statement Is not exclusive to believers. However were you erred was not recognizing the earthly priesthood was patterned after the 24 elders already existing in heaven and not the otherway round - the 24 elders patterned after the Aaron 24 courses. Where you also erred is failer to recognize the four living creatures and the 24 elders are not singing of their own redemption. And lastly we are NOT promised to sit round the fathers throne, We are promised to sit ON the fathers throne To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.

5613. hós ► Strong's Concordance hós: as, like as, even as, when, since, as long as Original Word: ὡς Part of Speech: Adverb Transliteration: hós Phonetic Spelling: (hoce) Short Definition: as, like as, how, while, so that Definition: as, like as, about, as it were, according as, how, when, while, as soon as, so that. NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin adverb from hos, Definition as, like as, even as, when, since, as long as NASB Translation about (20), according (2), affected (1), after (2), appear* (1), appeared (1), effect (1), how (20), however* (1), if (10), just (6), just like (1), like (106), like* (1), namely (1), one (2), same way (1), seeing (1), since (2), size (1), so (3), so* (1), though (15), way (1), when (53), whenever* (1), where (1), while (10) The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of (according to) gold, and their faces were like the faces of men The adverb there does not change the noun

stephanoi is stephanoi and it's not exclusive to believers, as shown in Rev 6 with the white horse and then with the demon locusts That phrase "something like" is not in the original text, it's added in

Well the bible is a Hebrew book, with Hebrew thought, how can one claim hebrew interjection? But there is hard proof.... nothing has been speculative....I can go through everyone of those idoms and biblically prove it. And you'll find everyone of those idoms at the 7th trumpet. Pretribs do not have any literal evidence for their doctrine...... You have no literal church in heaven, you have no literal resurrection, no command of the voice at a literal trumpet. All prerequests for the rapture is non existent for the pre trib rapture Everything is speculative and symbolized to form a pre trib belief You have to symbolize the 24 elders to be the church...like below. Crowns and especially Stephanie crowns are not worn exclusively by "overcomers" or church saints. In Revelation 6:2 the rider on the white horse wears a stephanos crown, in Revelation 9:7 the demon-locusts from the pit wear stephanos crowns - since when are demons overcomes? After the patterns of heaven Hebrews 8:5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. God speaks to Moses: Exodus 25:40 See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain - for the tabernacle right... Everything in the earthly tabernacle was patterned after the pre-existing heavenly Temple. Revelation 4:7 you will find in the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. The living creatures: Exodus 25:17-19 Make an atonement cover of pure gold-two and a half cubits long and a cubit and a half wide. And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. Make one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; make the cherubim of one piece with the cover, at the two ends. The cherubim patterned after the pre-existing living creatures. The 24 courses elders patterned 1 Chronicles 24:1-4 These were the divisions of the sons of Aaron: The sons of Aaron were Nadab, Abihu, Eleazar and Ithamar. But Nadab and Abihu died before their father did, and they had no sons; so Eleazar and Ithamar served as the priests. With the help of Zadok a descendant of Eleazar and Ahimelech a descendant of Ithamar, David separated them into divisions for their appointed order of ministering. A larger number of leaders were found among Eleazar's descendants than among Ithamar's, and they were divided accordingly: sixteen heads of families from Eleazar's descendants and eight heads of families from Ithamar's descendants. So we have a total of 24 heads of families from the tribe of Levi during the time of king David. This regulation of 24 priests rotating to minister in the Tabernacle was established after the pattern of heaven 1 Chronicles: 24:19 This was their appointed order of ministering when they entered the temple of the LORD, according to the regulations prescribed for them by their forefather Aaron, as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded him. This order was commanded by God written down by Aaron. Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. Revelation 4:4 The 24 courses of priests serving in the earthly Temple were patterned after the 24 celestial Angel Priests who minister in the heavenly sanctuary. This is not speculative, this is scriptural.

So the antichrist rejecting woman rights mimics Christ? Dalai Lama is celibate is he mimican Christ now?

You'll find that Noahs ark and the Tabernacle earthly and heavenly (since the earthly tabernacle was a forshadow of the heavenly), was designed as a temple. The Arks 3 decks suggest both the 3 divisions of the Tabernacle and the threefold. Each of the 3 decks of Noahs ark was exactly the same height as the Tabernacle The same Hebrew word mikseh was used for the animal skin covering of the Ark and that of the Tabernacle. In other words Noahs ark = open and temple shut Matthew 24 = 5 wise virgins open and temple shut Rev 11 & Rev 15 = open temple and temple shut. The pretrib rapture does not correspond with God's patterns. Nor does it correspond with how God wages war with trumpets. Is the child corporate church or simply Christ? The temple is always opened for Christ, how can it not be? However the context of Noah, Matthew 24 and rev 11 & 15 is for the believers and not Christ. There are three levels of heaven - sky, cosmos and the 3rd heaven God's abode Show us in context which heaven Enoch and Elijah were taken too? Then why are you using Noahs ark then? Those saints that were taken in Matthew 27, was it in the days of Noah? Ive already dealt with this...I am still waiting for a rebuttal.

Nope, why would the Antichrist need to come as the chrisrian messiah when it's already in scripture he will deceive in another name and win for the time being. He shall regard neither the God[a] of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. 38 But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. 39 Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain

Once Noah's family went into the ark, the door was shut Once the five wise virgins went into the temple the door was shut. Matthew 25:10 But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut. Heaven is only mentioned to be open at the 7th trumpet Rev 11:19 Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant It is then shut Rev 15:8 And the Temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power, and no man was able to enter into the Temple, till the seuen plagues of the seuen Angels were fulfilled.” Please show me anywhere of heaven being open and then shut in Revelation to support the pretrib doctrine? Gen 19:25 Genesis 19:25 New International Version (NIV) 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain , destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. God destroyed the entire Jordan plain and all the cities except for one ...the city of Zoar, Lot was not rescued out of the entire Jordan plains destruction....he was protected in the midst of the entire destruction. Please explain why the pretrib doctrine ignores the full scale of the Jordan plain destruction? Christ is crowned king on the coronation of Rosh Hashanah Rev 11:15 The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.” And the parable of the returning king Luke 19:15 He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it. Please explain why the battle of Jericho is not a prophetic pattern of the 7seals and 7 trumpets in Revelation

"It certainly suggests that Mary knew Jesus could fix the problem... "

Show that Mary expected Christ to turn water into wine? You are leading an assumption

Where does it state the antichrist comes in Christ name?

If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him:

That's because they weren't listening Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose harsh treatment for them and will bring on them what they dread. For when I called, no one answered, when I spoke, no one listened. They did evil in my sight and chose what displeases me

I didn't say that, I stated The Pharisees - knew that Christ miracles validated His words and ministry John 11:45-48

Yet assuming Mary had full scope Christ could turn water into wine? You're assuming what is not in scripture

Correct they are therefore not in a continual rejection of the Holy spirit, therefore they can be saved. However the Pharisees who accused Christ of working with satan, were in a continual rejection and remained in a continual rejection of the Holy spirit

Christ only started performing his miracles and ministry after his baptism correct? Through and only through the holy spirit correct? The Pharisees - knew that Christ miracles validated His words and ministry John 11:45-48 So the Pharisees were attempting to discredit Christ messiahship by saying His works were by the devil and not by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, when the Pharisees accused Christ of casting out demons by the power of Satan, they were blaspheming the Holy Spirit by whom Christ performed His miracles through and only through the Holy Spirit. What was Christ's Messiahship? What was the point of miracles? Christ Messiahship and miracles is the very heart of the redemptive work of God in Christ. The nature of Christ ministry is redemption. The Pharisees were striking at the core of God's ordained plan - redemption.

But that is what blasphemy of the holy Spirit is.....refusing to repent....refusing the ministry of redemption. So when you state.... Word of God that all who receive the mark of the beast will not be forgiven .....is based on a continual refusal of accepting redemption work of the holy spirit the very definition of blasphemy of the holyspirit, and not based purely on accepting a mark.

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