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  1. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    None of those prove inspiration. Just because Hebrew people used it means nothing. The orthodox church is now the one, true infallible church? the dead sea scrolls does not mean it was Scripture. The fact people quoted it does not make it Scripture. I couldnt care less what a few "church fathers" thought. I pointed out some heresies taught in the book of enoch which you ignored. ie: “seen and whose words I have heard and written down?’ And he said to me: ‘This first is Michael, the merciful and long-suffering: and the second, who is set over all the diseases and all the wounds of the children of men, is Raphael: and the third, who is set over all the powers, is Gabriel: and the fourth, who is set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life, is named Phanuel.’” – Enoch 40:9
  2. Allah the Moon god of Arabia.

    Allah the Moon god of Arabia. Why is the moon the symbol of Islam? Bible Reading: Deuteronomy 4:15-19. www.youtube.com Allah - The Pagan Moon God (rednck13) Where did the Moon god Allah come from? Islam the false religion (franz karl) ISLAM IS BAAL WORSHIP * Islam is Antichrist * They reject Jesus is the son of God (MrTrott2hot) Introduction: The Quran (29:46) commands Muslims to tell Christians “say (to them): We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our ilah (God) and your Ilah (God) is One (ie. Allah), and to Him we have submitted.” This is an attempt to convert Christians to Islam. Question: Is Allah, the god of Islam, the same as Jehovah, the God of Abraham and the Bible prophets? Question: Why is Allah never defined in the Quran? Why did Mohammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was? If Allah was a pre-Islamic idol in the Kaba, then we reject Islam as pagan. Question: Why did the pagan Arabs never accuse Mohammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped? This was Allah the moon god according to archaeological evidence. 1. Nabonidus (555-539BC), the last king of Babylon, built Tayma in Arabia as a centre of moon worship. 2. The moon-god’s name “Sin” is part of the Arabic word ‘Sinai’ & the ‘wilderness of Sin’ (Ex.16:1;17:1) 3. G. Caton Thompson (1944) uncovered a moon-god temple in Hureidha, South Arabia, with the moon god idol itself, 21 inscriptions of “Sin” & crescent moon symbols. ‘Tombs & Moon Temple of Hureidha’. 4. According to many inscriptions, while the name of the moon-god was “Sin”, his title was “Al-Ilah” (the god or the chief god among the gods). As Carlton S. Coon points out “The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the moon-god.” (C.S.Coon, Southern Arabia, Smithsonian, 1944, p.398,399). The moon-god was called “al-ilah” (the god), which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. 5. Pagan Arabs named their children after the idol “Allah”. Moh father & cousin were called ‘Abd-Allah’. His uncle was called Obied-Allah. Mohammad was raised in the moon-god religion of Allah. Pagan Arabs believed Allah was the greatest of all gods. Mohammad added that Allah was the only god. He did not take away the Allah that they already worshipped. He only took away Allah’s 3 daughters and the other idols in the Kabah. Mohammad told the pagan Arabs that he still believed in their moon-god Allah. He told Jews & Christians that Allah was their god also. Jews and Christians rejected his false god Allah. 6. Al-Kindi, an early Christian debater of Muslims, stated that Islam and Allah did not come from the Bible, but from the pagan Sabeans. They did not worship Jehovah, the God of the Bible, but the moon-god Allah and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. (The Early Christian-Muslim debates, N.A.Newman, p.357,413,426). Newman concludes, “Islam …sprung up from idolatry.” (p 719). 7. Caesar Farah, Islamic scholar, concludes, “There is no reason to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and the Jews.” (C Farah, Islam: Beliefs and Observations, 1987, p.28). Question: Where is Allah in the Bible? Nowhere! Where is Allah in pre-Islamic Arabia? Everywhere. What authority do pagan pre-Islamic Arabs have to tell us about the God of the Bible? None! 8. Why is the crescent moon the symbol of Islam? Why is a crescent moon on top of Sunni mosques, minarets and on Islamic flags? Why does Ramadan begin and end with the appearance of the crescent moon? Because Islam originates from pre-Islamic worship of Allah the moon-god. 9. Why do Muslims see no problem with borrowing their god from pagan idol worshippers? Bias! 10. Why did the Quran discuss Allah’s three daughters, each being idols in the Kaba? Allah is pagan. “Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-Uzza (2 idols of the pagan Arabs) and Manat (another idol of the pagan Arabs)?” (Q 53:19,20). Allah the moon god married the sun goddess, who had 3 daughters. Al-Uzza was one of the three chief goddesses of Arabian religion in pre-Islamic times and was worshiped as one of the daughters of Allah by the pre-Islamic Arabs along with Al-lat and Manat. The temple dedicated to al-Uzza and the statue itself was destroyed by Khalid ibn al Walid in Nakhla. 11. The Quraysh would walk around the Ka‘bah and say, “By al-Lat and al-Uzza, And al-Manat, the third idol besides. Verily they are al-gharaniq (most exalted females) Whose intercession is to be sought.” Their shrines were found near Mecca: Al-Lat at Taif, al-Uzza at Nakhlah and al-Manat near Qudayd. 12. Many rituals performed by Muslims today existed in pagan worship in Arabia before Islam. The yearly pagan pilgrimage to the Kabah included the Ramadan fast, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, praying five times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers (10). 13. All over the ancient world, the crescent moon is found on seals, steles, pottery, clay tablets, amulets, cylinders, weights,earrings, necklaces,wall murals. In Ur, the Stela of Nammu has a moon as the top god.
  3. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    Please, what makes the book of enoch inspired Scripture? Please do not answer this with another question.
  4. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    why cant you answer a simple question with a yes or no? Seems you guys dont know WHO the "fathers" were. heh. All i want is an official list from the catholic "church" of their church "fathers". Seems a very difficult thing to produce
  5. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    I dont see a list there. Man, how hard is it?
  6. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    So thats BEFORE 313AD? No, i wanted an infallibly-defined list from the RCC. Please, what makes the book of enoch inspired Scripture?
  7. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    You said certain church "fathers" thought the book of enoch was Scripture. It is usual to post quotes to , ack yourself up. See, the JW's say in their books that the church "fathers" denied that Jesus is God, but they DONT provide sources or references. Again i ask you, can you show me an official, infallible list of these church "fathers" ? Also, did these people live BEFORE 313AD or afterwards, please? Also, i want to thank you for willing to have a polite and respectful dialog. I appreciate it, my friend.
  8. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    So, the church "fathers" decide what is scripture? Also, would of been good of you to provide quotes that back up your claims.
  9. Questions for Post-Tribulationists. Long

    Questions for Post-Tribulationists. Question 1: Show me the rapture mentioned in Revelation 19:11-21 or Zechariah 14:1-5? It’s not there. Question 2: Show me the church mentioned in one OT or NT passage discussing the tribulation? Question 3: How can the rapture and glorious appearing be on the same day when the rapture day is unknown and the glorious appearing day will be known? How can a day be both known and unknown? Question 4: The open door into heaven with a voice, trumpet, and catching up to heaven occurs in both Rev 4:1 and I Thess 4:16-18.Why do post-tribs reject this as the pre-trib. rapture? Open door Rev 19:11. Q5: If you accept the 2 witnesses are caught up to heaven in Rev 11:12 by ‘Come up hither’ why not rapture in 4:1? Question 6: Show me the church on earth from Revelation 6-18? It is not there because it is in heaven. Question 7: If the church is not raptured until Rev 20:4, as post-tribulationists think, then how could the church be in heaven in Rev 19:7-11, before Christ’s glorious appearing? Question 8: Do you agree that the 24 elders in heaven represent the raptured church age Christians? If no, then who are they and what proof do you have of their identity? If yes, then will you accept the pre-tribulation rapture and reject the post-tribulation rapture as error? Question 9: Do you agree that the armies in fine linen accompanying Christ at His return are church age Christians? If no, then who are they and what proof do you have of their identity? Question 10: Who are you looking for, Christ or antichrist? Why would Christ want His bride to look for the antichrist? Question 11: How will the tribulation sufferings comfort us? Post-tribulationists can’t explain this. Question 12: Does the Philadelphian church represent the faithful church at the end of the church age? Do you believe that God will keep this church out of the time of the tribulation coming on all the world? Question 13: Since Jesus returns to earth from a wedding, doesn’t this prove the church is in heaven before the glorious appearing? Can you see that this disproves the post-tribulation rapture? Why is the church in heaven (19:7) if the church is raptured after Jesus returns to earth as post-trib claims? Question 14: Who is the Restrainer? If he is the Holy Spirit’s influence in the church, then doesn’t this prove the rapture comes before antichrist is revealed and before the tribulation as II Thess. 2:6-8 states? Question 15: Why would Jesus prepare a place for us in heaven and not take us there at the rapture (as post-tribulation rapture people think)? Question 16: What is the purpose of the rapture if it occurs at the end of the tribulation? No purpose! Question 17: Who resurrects and gathers the church at the rapture, Christ or angels? Christ! Then how can Matthew 24:31 refer to the rapture if angels gather the elect of Israel here? Question 18: How can the last day be the same 24 hour period when 1000 years separate the resurrection of the saved in John 11:24 and the resurrection of the unsaved in John 12:48? Question 19: In Matthew 13:30,49 the angels gather the wicked first and gather the righteous later, then the angels gathering the elect in Matthew 24:31 cannot be the rapture, because in I Thessalonians 4:17 the righteous are resurrected first. Question 20: If the rapture occurred at the second coming, why would the sheep and goats need to be separated immediately after the second coming? (Matthew 25:31-46). Question 21: Who will populate the millennium? If a post-tribulation rapture occurs at the glorious appearing and the wicked are cast into hell at that time, who will be left to populate the millennium? Question 22: The judgment of Israel is discussed in Ezekiel 20:38, ‘I will purge out from among you the rebels.’ This judgment of Israel occurs at the second coming of Jesus Christ in glory and requires saved and unsaved Israelites to be regathered. If all the saved (including saved Jews) had previously been separated a few days earlier by the rapture, why would there be a need to separate saved Jews and lost Jews after Jesus Christ’s coming. They would have been separated a few days earlier by the rapture. Question 23: In view of these 14 differences between the rapture and glorious appearing, why do you ignore these differences and insist that these events occur on the same day? Question 24: If we go through the tribulation, how can it be a blessed hope? Question 25: How can the tribulation be called Jacob’s trouble for Israel and a blessed hope for the church, if both groups must go through it? Question 26: What is desirable about entering the tribulation? Nothing. 1502 Question 27: What comfort is there in entering the tribulation? None. Question 28: Why do you ignore 7 examples of the focus of the tribulation being Israel, and still believe the church enters the tribulation? What examples prove that the church enters the tribulation? Question 29: If the apostles are in heaven in Revelation 18:20 before Christ’s return in Revelation 19, then how can the church be raptured later when Christ returns in Revelation 19? Questio30: Since Paul uses the third person pronouns ‘They’, ‘them’ and ‘they’ in I Thessalonians 5:3, can you see that he is excluding the church from the tribulation, thus proving a pre-tribulation rapture? Q31: Since church age believers are not of darkness, why do you say we enter the tribulation darkness? Question 32: Will the church be overtaken by the day of the Lord/tribulation or not overtaken? No! Question 33: Has God appointed the church to the tribulation wrath or not (I Thess 5:9)? Paul says no! Question 34: Why would God rescue Enoch, Lot, Rahab from His judgment on the wicked & not the church? Question 35: What is the significance of ‘the departure’ (η apostasia) in II Thess 2:3 having a definite article and no qualifying words when every other use of the noun or verb tells what a departure is from? Why didn’t Paul use ‘parapipto’ for falling away from the faith as he did in Hebrews 6:6? Question 36: What are the differences between the church and Israel, the church and the elect in different ages, tribulations and the tribulation period, and the trumpet of God and the trumpets of angels? Question 37: If the rapture and glorious appearing occur on the same day as post-trib say, where is the time to fit in the Judgment Seat of Christ (II Cor. 5:10), the presenting of the church to Jesus Christ (Eph. 5:27), and the marriage of Christ to the church? How can these three fit into one hour? Question 38: Jesus said that some will escape the tribulation. How can we escape it if we must enter it? Question 39: If the church is not in Daniel’s 69 weeks, why should it be found in the 70th week, which is the 7 years tribulation period? Question 40: Write out the time line of Revelation, with scriptures, agreed on by post-tribulationists? Question 41: Why would Jesus prepare a place for us in heaven if we won’t go there as post-trib think? Question 42: What is the purpose of the tribulation for the church? None. To try nations & prepare Israel. Question 43: Since the church is united to Christ, and those in the tribulation come under the Antichrist’s and Satan’s authority, why would Christ place Himself under Satan’s authority? Question 44: What NT scripture tells the church how to endure the tribulation’s sufferings? None. Question 45: Would it be God’s will for the church to submit to the antichrist’s government? No. Question 46: Is the antichrist’s government ministers of God? No. Question 47: If the church enters the tribulation, which part of the church is raptured to heaven, and which part of the church stays on the earth according to Matthew 25:34 and post-tribulationism? Question 48: Who will come first, Christ at the rapture or antichrist? Who are you looking for? Why? Question 49: Are the 144,000 Israelites part of the church? Why? Q50: Why would God discuss the Whore on earth in the tribulation & not discuss the church on earth? Question 51: Explain how I Thess 1:10; 5:4,5,9; II Thess 2:3,13; Rev. 3:10 allow a Post-trib. rapture? Question 52: Why would a bridegroom want to punish his new bride? Would you do this? Question 53: Why would Paul tell the Thessalonians not to be shaken in mind or troubled (II Thess 2:2) if they were to enter the tribulation? The tribulation would trouble anyone. Question 54: Can you prove that ‘the departure’ (2:3) & ‘taken out of the way’ (2:7) is not the church? Question 55: Please answer these problems with post-tribulationism: 3) Post-tribulationism misunderstands the purposes of the tribulation period. 6) Post-tribulationism does not explain the differences between the rapture and the second coming passages. The burden of proof is on post-tribulationism to reconcile these to their plan. 7) Post-tribulationism’s strongest argument is the argument from silence. The contrast between the rapture and glorious appearing passages is between joy and judgment, deliverance and discipline, good news and bad news. 8) Post-tribulationism is logically flawed and inconsistent. 9) Post-tribulationism is inconsistent with literal interpretation. 10) Post-tribulationism blurs the distinction between Israel and the church. 11) Post-tribulationism is inconsistent with the doctrine of Imminence. 13) Post-tribulationism fails to harmonize the full body of Biblical Data. 1503
  10. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    It does NOT matter because we read in the new testament of people taught by the apostles FALLING AWAY and even peter was REBUKED by paul to his face.
  11. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    Can you give me the infallible list of church fathers published by the rcc?
  12. Lessons From A Postage Stamp

    Lessons From A Postage Stamp Bible Reading: 2 Chronicles 30:1, 6-14 (6,10) Aim: To carry God’s message faithfully as does a postage stamp. Introduction: Proverbs 25:25 tells us: “As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country.” We all like to receive a letter with good news from a far country, such as Africa, India, China. We often forget that the reason we received that letter is because someone paid a price for a postage stamp that enabled the letter to be sent. We need to be like a postage stamp that carries God’s messages faithfully to other needy people. A Bible Message sent by post is in II Chronicles 30:1-14, where Hezekiah sent letters by post to all Israel and Judah to keep the feast of Passover (v.1), to turn to God (v.6) and to yield yourselves to God (v.8). 1. The message of the posts (v.6-9) was: Return to God (v.6). Be not like your stiff-necked and rebellious fathers and brothers (v.7,8); Yield yourselves unto the Lord (v.8); Enter into His Sanctuary (v.8); Serve the Lord your God (v.8); Ye will find compassion from captors (v.9); The Lord your God is gracious and merciful; II. Results of the Post: Some laughed them to scorn and mocked them (v.10). Some humbled themselves and came to Jerusalem (v.11). God gave those of Judah one heart to do the commandment of the King and princes (v.12). A very great congregation assembled at Jerusalem to keep the feast of unleavened bread (v.13). All the pagan altars of incense were taken away and cast into the Brook Kidron. Question: How often do we see a postage stamp and think nothing of it? A postage stamp is like a faithful Christian in eleven ways. A stamp preaches sermons. May we always remember these lessons when we see a postage stamp: 1. “I Represent my Country” A stamp openly shows what country it represents. We Christians should openly represent our country which is heaven. We are called “ambassadors for Christ” (II Corinthians 5:20). An ambassador is a person who represents his country in a foreign land. Heaven is our home and while we are away from it, we should be a good representative of heaven. “But now they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He hath prepared for them a city.” Hebrews 11:16. 2. “I Am Always Ready For Service” As a stamp is always ready for service, so should we be. Paul was ready for service when he said: “so, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the Gospel to you who are at Rome also.” (Romans 1:15). Peter was ready for service when he said: “And Peter said unto Him, "Lord, I am ready to go with Thee, both into prison and to death."” (Luke 22:33). God tells us: “But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and be ready always to give an answer to every man who asketh you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.” (I Peter 3:15). Question: Are you ready to serve God? Question: Are you prepared unto every good work? “That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (II Timothy 3:17). 3. “I Stick To My Task Until It Is Done” As a stamp sticks to its letter until it arrives at its destination, so we should stick to our life’s work until it is finished. Perseverance is a necessary and wonderful trait. Too many people quit their God given work before it is finished. Question: Will you quit serving God or will you finish your life’s work for God? God tells us “Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast, unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.” (I Corinthians 15:58). God will not forsake us “David said to Solomon his son, "Be strong and of good courage, and do it. Fear not, nor be dismayed, for the LORD God, even my God, will be with thee. He will not fail thee, nor forsake thee, until thou hast finished all the work for the service of the house of the LORD. I Chron 28:20 Question: Will you find and finish God’s work for your life. 4. “I Go Wherever I Am Sent” As a stamp never argues about where it is to go, so we should go to see people to tell them about Jesus Christ and the gospel. Jesus says to us: “Then said Jesus to them again, "Peace be unto you. As My Father hath sent Me, even so send I you."” (John 20:21) and “He said unto them, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the Gospel to every creature.” (Mark 16:15). Question: Will you say with Isaiah “Here am I, send me.” (Isaiah 6:8)? Question: Is God telling you to go somewhere for Him, maybe to Bible College, short term mission trip? 5. “I Don’t Give Up When I Am Licked” As a postage stamp is licked, so do we sometimes feel licked and unable to continue. Paul said “we faint not” in II Corinthians 4:8-18 (v.16). Question: Do you feel licked and like quitting? Don’t, because the best years of service are ahead. 6. “I Don’t Strike Back When I Am Struck” As a postage stamp is struck to make it stick to a letter, so we may be struck rightly or wrongly in life. a. We must submit to God’s chastening and discipline, “for whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom He receiveth.” (Hebrews 12:6). b. When others mistreat us, Jesus tells us, “But I say unto you that ye resist not evil, but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.” (Matthew 5:39). Is someone mistreating you? Commit that person to God and trust God to bring you through the difficulty. 7. “I Am Small, But I Carry Great Messages As letters carry very important messages, so God sends His greatest message of salvation through us to a lost and dying world. Though you are little, you must take God’s great message of salvation to those without Jesus Christ. A great message from God is John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Question: Do you realize the greatness and importance of the message of salvation God has given you? 8. Many Different Kinds And Varieties Of Stamps There are many different kinds of Christians. God has made us all different, unique, beautiful & valuable. 9. We Have The King’s Image On Us As many stamps have the image or picture of the King or Queen of a country, so we Christians have on us the image of the King of Heaven. “But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.” (II Corinthians 3:18). “As we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.” I Cor. 15:49. Question: Are you getting more like Christ in all you say, think and do? 10. A Price Has Been Paid For Us As a stamp has a price or value on it, so we have a value on us, being the blood of Christ paid to redeem us from sin and Satan. “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:” I Peter 1:18,19. Question: Do you win souls to Christ because they are valuable to God? 11. Used Stamps Are Collected As a stamp is sought after by collectors, so after we are used, God collects us to heaven. Malachi 3:16-18 “Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.” God doesn’t throw us away. We are still valuable to God for further service in eternity: “And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him.” (Revelation 22:3). Question: Are you preparing to serve Christ now so you can serve Him more in Heaven? Question: What does God want you to do for Him this year?
  13. Will everybody be saved?

    Of course not. The Bible is VERY clear. Plus, there would be no reason for there to be a hell and yet there IS one.
  14. Book of Enoch: Errors and Problems

    The Book of Enoch uses unfamiliar terminology, referring to the "Lord of Spirits" and the "Head of Days." These terms are foreign to the Word of God. The messiah is NOT directly mentioned. The ambiguous mention of what may or may not be the Lord Jesus in the Book of Enoch, is eerily reminiscent of Freemasonry (who worship the "Great Architect" ...an undefined, ambiguous, universal god). This is the false god of New Age. It is worthy to note that Christ's deity is not evidenced in the Book of Enoch. It appears that many statements in the Book of Enoch were taken from the Bible, and then built around with mumbo-jumbo. Many terms from the Biblical Book of Revelation are quoted in the Book of Enoch; but without any sense or reason (in sharp contrast to the Bible). All 66 Books of the Word of God perfectly intertwine with each other, presenting a clear prophetic picture. The Book of Enoch doesn't offer anything of doctrinal value, because it's bizarre teachings stand alone (i.e., unable to be supported with Scriptures). Some defenders of the Book of Enoch contend that Jesus often quoted from the Book of Enoch. Prove it! Every Scripture Jesus ever quoted is found in the Old Testament, without any reference to a Book of Enoch. The strongest argument in favor of the Book of Enoch is found in Jude 1:14, "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints." Since this quote is NOT found in the Old Testament, some scholars have used this fact in an attempt to legitimize the entire Book of Enoch. We read in chapter 1:9 of the Book of Enoch... And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him. However, there is no Biblical record of a "Book of Enoch." There is NO doubt that Enoch made these statements as Jude 1:14 confirms; but that doesn't necessarily mean that he authored the entire Book of Enoch (or ANY of it for that matter). It's a question of who copied who? And remember, the Author of the Bible is GOD; not men... "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost" (2nd Peter 1:21). To elevate the Book of Enoch to the level of God's Word is dangerous, unless it is truly God's Word! If Enoch did write the Book of Enoch, it raises the natural question of whether or not the work was inspired by God? The King James translators,48 scholarly men skilled in the Hebrew and Greek languages, DIDN'T! Many godly men today write good books; but they are still flawed human beings, prone to sin, who aren't always doctrinally correct in every area. It would be a great evil to recognize their writings as EQUAL with God's Word (the Bible). Jesus condemned following the TRADITIONS of men over the commandments of God (Mark 7:6-13). Even king David warned against trusting men rather than God (Psalm 118:8). This is why Seventh-Day Adventists are a false religion, because they elevate the writings of Ellen G. White as EQUAL with the Bible. Scientologists do the same, by elevating the writings of Ron Hubbard as EQUAL with the Bible. Catholics are woefully guilty of elevating the teaching of the Vatican, fabricated over the centuries, as EQUAL with God's Word. Regardless of whether Enoch wrote the Book of Enoch or not, it is abundantly clear to the Biblically-sound believer that it is NOT inspired by God. It is also possible that Enoch's preaching was exploited and deliberately misconstrued after his death. The FACT of the matter is that the Book of Enoch is clearly a watered-down, heretical, manuscript filled with mumbo-jumbo. Unlike the Bible, the Book of Enoch doesn't appear to be going anywhere. The Book of Enoch is a square peg which just doesn't fit anywhere. The wording is vague—a popular method of deception which Satan uses! Listen to the average televangelist these days and you'll get a watered-down sermonette; but hear no clear Gospel presentation. The occult is all about confusing people, which is why so many otherwise decent men join such a Satanic organization as Freemasonry. Benny Hinn's website appears to present the basic Gospel; but he is a known Catholic, who believes good works are necessary for salvation.