Alejandro84

I agree with you brother...... Rapture Doctrine invented by John Darby in 1830 AD - prior to this no one and I mean NO ONE ever spoke of a pre-tribulation. This is one area from many that Christians LOVE to argue about. Yeah I've experienced that. Just coming out of an ongoing three year discussion among countless Christians addressing secret rapture.

The simple answer plainly is No, lol , cause no matter if one makes it a long answer or a short one, one still will end up with those two letter words!

Amen Angela, I totally agree with everything you said. It's true, because Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world, and he also said render to God the things that be God and to Caesar the things that are Caesars, so right there shows how the two shouldn't meet. One can't influence the other in the sense of trying to force ones will to do and act in such a way or another. It should just be that in pertaining to the things of God we render our heart and with government we be law abiding citizens. The church and state should never mix. Glad to meet you. Hope to talk more!

Sorry to hear about your back pain. Think celery and carrots, that'll help! You'll totally forget about the nachos....maybe? Lets hope! Lol

I'm I that obvious!? Lol, yep I sure do! Oops, I'm sorry, don't wanna make you break your diet. Just say no to nachos! Lol

Hi coffee, you could do cross reference. Link verses that correlate and explain each other.

Nice!....but the most anticipating question left to be answered is: did you have the nachos???? lol

All I can say is that God created time and knows when time will end. God in eternity past (before the world was) fordained Christ to be the atonement for our sins. Then he came in time to perform it, then when time ends h will be with his redeemed for all eternity. the message believers should tell people is that not of predestination, but of simply proclaiming the gospel message which is to turn from trusting in yourself and trust in the good finished work of Christ. when doing so, to whomever has ears to hear, let him ear. Thats what Jesus said.

Hi coffee, sorry no I haven't. But hey, remember to get some nachos and jalapeno peppers tomorrow though!

Hey Bill, yes I know of the nicene creed but never read it because i don't heed to it because it was formed by men of outward religiosity, they have taken the scripture and made men recite thinking that if they recite it, they affirm it.

Hi again Bill, so what I gather from your point of discussion is that you believe the Word of God to be inerrant and infailible correct? And that it is all one needs for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness, and not other books that claim it helps one understand the bible. I've never read the Nicene Creed myself.

Hi Bill, yes the scriptures are the infailable Words of God. And it is living and sharper than any two edged sword. There is nothing in the scriptures that is fictional. To address briefly your comment on literalists. The scriptures make clear distinctions of what is literal and what is figurative(not saying that the spiritual is always understood). The account of what took place with Elisha is actual not fictional, same as with Elijah going up in the whirlwind, Joshua and the Israelites crossing over Jordan and Jonah being in the belly of a great fish. What is figurative in the scriptures is certain conversations, with told idioms and parables which is common among Hebrews. Jesus spoke in figurative language for most of the time and in others he spoke plainly. Like when he spoke about eating his flesh and drinking his blood, this was figurative but his disciples couldn't understand what it was specifing to. For the unbelievers they couldn't comprehend these words and took them as being literal. Then you have words where Christ says plainly that the Son of man will be betrayed into the hands of men and shall be crucified. Which is actual. He spoke in regards to the spiritual side (being understood that when one believes in him in what he would accomplish it would be as eating and drinking) and the actual. I mention all of that to say this, when the scriptures detail an occurance in the old testament it is actual not fictional nor figurative, but when there are teachings and as being spoken as in pertaining to the understanding of the wisdom and knowledge of God it can be figurative, not vise versa.

Amen that's right, for the scripture says by Himself has He purged our sins. This truthful account of scripture contradicts the notion of an ongoing purging fire altogether.