dprprb

THANKS SoBG!! From the Dr. on your link- "This brings us to Genesis 3 and the Fall, of course, but a few things are apparent, or at least worth thinking about: 1. It’s quite possible to read Genesis 1-2 without thinking that the two humans in the story are specific people." I was reading Dr. Steven Dimattei's assessements( a biblical scholar) for this type of opinion among scholars....i was looking for the occurence of translation variants (i.e. that Gap theory uses in Gen 1:1-5 between "was" and 'becomes' void. (not to change the subject) ) and generally trying to understand the fundamental Hebrew text. THANK YOU

I dont need to rescue my narrative due to a lack of ugly facts. If there was an ugly fact somewhere it was lost on me due to the pontifications about everything else but the mechanics suggested by my words. You know like 2+2 does not equal 5 , the 2nd law of thermodyn would prevent this from reconnecting or even 'you know I understand why you thought that but that is definitely not what that means' etc etc. All that other garbage sideways issues(if I made a mistake then so be it) I choose to abandon as all merely distractions from mechanics and Scripture in the Act of God destroying the earth and needing to leave something for Noah to put his foot down on. The discussion is whether God goes back to Gen1:1, and what He leaves in the path of His destruction. Between Scripture and science there are two sources of ugly fact 7mm rounds- im not ducking dodging running or crack potting. I heard parallel worlds isnt physics but that is anti-Scriptural in this setting IMO.

In response to some of Enochs critique I would like to point out that Scripture is part of my set of assumptions(DUH!) and within it several key events that should be part of anyones assumptions that comments here. 1. The physics at the interior of the Tabernacle when God is 'in' 2. "The physics of" Gabriel meeting with Mary to discuss her pregnancy 3. " "God walking with Adam 4. " " Chariots coming down picking up prophets and carrying them wholesale to heaven. 5. " "Jesus returning to heaven 6. " "a triangle shaped door opens between the sky and heaven 7. " "Jacobs ladder 8. " "Jesus ascends to heaven 9. " "bottomless pit opens So at least 9 accounts from Scripture indicate that heavenly connections between separate timelines converge and diverge between at least two of the 3 mentioned 'existence places' Heaven, Hell, and Earth. Therefore it is not a hand wave dismissal that the mechanics Im suggesting doesnt exist and cant be described. Now someone's paradigm can be insulted and they react in a protectorate manner to try and say apple physics here and miracle oranges there. But the entrance and exit of entities and visible structures to interact with and lack of explosions and antimatter collisions in Scripture appear to indicate that physics is at least resonant enough to sustain the Scriptural account (also obvious). In those 9 occurences it is piecewise and local - the Flood account would be an example of "wholesale coverage". Those 9 occurences where 'conscious' timelines (to indicate Im using narrative 'timeline' description not physicists) exist for angels and God and human flesh are like wormhole structures. Therefore I dont think my conjecture is out of order.

Ok so best and worst possible analogy......I had to share this because it is so ridiculous that Im shakin my head. Im trying to wrap my head around the paths as two separate timelines come together. Its like being at Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh- two rivers converge and become one (but water has volume that doubles the size of the result). Riding a boat at the confluence is the confusion of what water came from which source. So thats one way to visualize it. Here goes...the mindbending part is to follow Gods path as suggested down one source and back the other. We have to be careful going up or back the second derived path. The best analogy I thought was remember back in the 70s and 80s when we took apart cassette tapes and played them backwards by switching the direction? Thats the mindbending part that the information (God's forward dynamic contribution- reason and purpose) is written backwards on the flowing substrate. Of course the hilarious irony is that it was rumored that we would hear the satanic subliminal messages inherent in rock music. LOL but it turns out that that is the best analogy of Gods path with the stretchiness of iron oxide tape that ruins the information encoded on it. So Im not qualified to say technically what kind of transferrence of data points between paths might occur or whether a supercomputer could play the tape forward and account for the stretching (time) to replay it as Creation events but the Scriptural phrase destroy both them and the land implies to me that not a trace of the former Creation history from flood to Day 1 exists and that the recording tape has been erased leaving only the remnants that are conserved under the laws of physics. What that remnant becomes in its historical stretched setting would be a matter of indestructible nature of information. I must investigate this

OK THANKS Enoch Most of what i said is a direct verbatim from "Fabric of Reality" by David Deutsch and not my own tab dropping. My take away from his work was that Many Worlds is an interpretation- just like the Copenhagen interpretation which is a representation -and conjectured from the basis of all paths taken by a photon which causes the cancellation in the double slit experiment from Feynman. Since it is an ad hoc device to explain results it is given no substantial basis just as virtual particle is virtually synonymous with real particle. I think that you see no point to doing anything with my narrative and no further conversation is necessary , but I was able to simplify what i was saying during our conversation so Thanks...

1. Geology- I will use what can be deduced from empirical crossections that are visible or possible to reconstruct from interpolated core drills around the globe.-physical time is required not a resolution to whether something is science or not. 2. The unfordable Gap -I thought you meant- between the YEC literal and traditional understanding from Scripture (approx 4000BC) and the body of interpretations of OEC Day AGE versions, Gap theory, and what you or anyone else deems as pseudoscientifc conclusions. (radiometric dating etc)- the difference necessary to have any reconcilition is time. We can have the same dreary converse and go our separate ways agreeing to disagree..it maintains the status quo and defeats forward progress. Point of a negotiation is lost on those who have adopted a position of no negotitation required. Yet there 'they' sit and if they dont make it to the other side then I have a task. 3. I dont think I can factor primes either. If I want an 'out' to honor God's words about nothing is impossible then I can think about what that might mean - Separate topic for another time is 2 things God wont do and that God cant learn is a good point and Id like to think further about that first. My proposal is a different way to insert time into the narrative (such as a Day Age or Gap thoery is inclined to do) that does not violate Scripture and the traditional 4000BC style interpretation with 7 24 hr days of Creation. There are separate historical lines that part and reconverge with paradoxically observables that are not truth defeating. In fact, parallel world interpretations of quantum mechanics(QM) may provide a mechanical means for this - and yes I understand that it is assumed to be non interacting parallel worlds except that they do influence the outcome of an experiment. (which equals the double slit results) So they influence the outcome here in our observables right? Ive never seen you disagree with that. Now lets give it divine purpose if that can be coherent. Can it be done?

God enacts Noahs flood by either 1) mechanisms that exist from Creation where the land is called forth from 'the waters' or 2) by returning to that time (Gen 1:1) because He is 'destroying' the land and the breathing creatures and reenacting the first day while Noah safely floats. Citing Gen 1:1 is popular to people who see a global flood and by assumption recall the #1 mechanism for God to enact this Flood. But if God creates a global flood by going back to Gen 1:1 to start over with a clean slate then it is possible that comments about that from elsewhere in scripture can be mistaken as Gap theory preamble to Gen1:1 becuase as an explanation of how the flooding occurs God actually goes back via#2 to make it happen. Because it is God that goes back because the world was full of violence in Noahs time becuase of Satan then God infuses Scripture with that reasoning. Taking that into account means that Gap theorists have picked up these indicators of this elsewhere in Scripture but are also hotdoggin time onto the end to accomplish some other agenda which doesnt belong there. Acceptance of #2 method kills the local flood idea in the same stroke because God goes back to Gen1:1 to make it happen. You have to think carefully about the differences of #1 and #2 - one implies naturally that the world Noah steps back out onto is inherently the same it just gets dunked. That's why i say Mt Everest has nothing to do with the height of the Flood waters.

No i was not aware of that particular back story that was not included in the Canon...what is that book (collection of writings that it is in) called?

Perhaps there was too much quackery surrounding it but I thought that I nailed this one down tight... God By going back to Gen 1 (to Flood the world in Noahs time) He infuses that Scripture with the purpose of His visit "the earth was filled with violence" There is no preamble to Gen 1:1 where Satan caused a flood and any Scripture you are using to justify that Gap theory is Scriptural support that I encapsulate here that is 'superimposed' ...which as a by product kills local Flood theory. Your truth antenna are picking the signal up but backfilling a preamble story to support that truth or rescue PreColumbian societies from the Flood is incorrect. God is the only being that gives Scripture meaning.

You were the one that said 'unfordable' gap. Only an Act of God can cross such a thing. So if my proposal is correct then an Act of God honors the YEC original position something I now also do despite years of OEC confusion and neglect. Now if we admit miracles(completely unexplained and untouched ) then what is wrong with my somewhat physics sounding narrative? what do you find most objectional? Is it sitting with us OECer's in church?

I think it was We chose evil according to the Scriptural account and THEN God chose the path of love in response. I think in the area of where the left path and right path are merging the ability to see both causeways makes it easy to form false connections. But the ability to see that is wholly dependent on having eaten the forbidden fruit.

And I have a good source (not outta my imagination Im mean a real source) for K-T boundary info but the posting direction has gone so far off course that I feel stupid posting it in the midst of everyone chewing on word usage and given the log book it appears that the original poster abandoned the discussion and wouldnt reply anyway. IS THERE AN UGLY FACT IN THE HOUSE? I dont have a problem with them shutting me up-really. I AM a crackpot.

It's a label. I have a varied audience that sees some evidence as 'pseudo-science' and 'science' depending what they believe. Since I would like to focus on the topic rather than be lead away by CTRL+P posts because someone over reacts to my use of the word 'geology' anywhere near the word 'science' it is merely my attempt at defeating this language barrier to call things both. I do notice that a GREAT NUMBER of your posts (that should be fielded) disintegrate and participants are quickly lead away from the thrust of your Op on those simple grounds alone. You have had my sympathy. You will also note that I added a similar label(hypothetical reading) to the line 2 item description to indicate that that is part of my interpretation rather than Scriptural. Yes As far as actual science Im completely unqualified. At best I might a achieve a narrative that points out acts of God and highlights we think about what that means and the tradition of perspective that we have adopted. I dont have to be anyone or anything to point to acts of God , the rest is flowdown and beyond any one's credentials.

The guy nailed up there on the cross next to Him, has about the same amount of time as the OP, and he says "Surely you are the Son of God.." and he has an audience. Jesus says the outcome is.... And this was the thief's only 'work'.

Yes both are quotes after the Flood thus fitting into the reboot of Creation I hypothesized- temporally speaking. You are pointing to potential literal paradoxical information that , lacking other cross exam, would force me to the conclusions I made(as the only structural result possible)...especially when coupled with the underlying belief that Creation is true because it is an Act of God -also forcing an internal narrative to be reconsidered. What Dprprb dreams up to say is meaningless because it is Acts of God that are the thing that infuses meaning into what we read. If that is my only take away from this endeavor them Amen. Hopefully though, I can highlight these paths that He has taken for others, to save of course, in love. With respect to time and temporal constructs Im being heavily influenced at the present time by David Deutsch's "The Fabric of Reality" - I wouldnt very often recommend lay literature to anyone because authors typically allow themselves liberties and 'dramatizations' when addressing the hobby level fans. Such extrapolations and wishful talk is completely absent from their professional publications and it is actually misleading. BUT Dr. Deutsch does a very good job of stating what it is and what it is not- thus eliminating the crackpots from his wake.

As a farm boy I have though a lot about this passage as well in that God could change the nature of the rock, the brambles, and the soil beneath us -but perhaps it is best put that when we were healed and convicted by the Holy Spirit we grow and succeed in that otherwise hostile environment like the grass in the cracks of your driveway and the tall pines we see clutched to the side of the mountain- true we were not on the good side of the tracks but it is not a perceived inborn weakness thereafter given the necessity of moving mountains to 'supplant' us. Amen.

Yep I love it. You were right! That is exactly what I was thinking in terms of the fallen world because eating the fruit causes the original sin -good and evil- paradoxial state that Christ has to fix.

And Im saying that your position is included in a P shaped timeline hypothesis-. Specifically I also mean no hills or any geography from PreFlood exists if you accept that God said destroy them and the earth. Accordingly then no one should use Mt Everest as a measure for the depth of the flood.

Thank you for the KISS reminder. As time goes it is getting easier and easier to process and relate and Im finding more and more interesting effects to mull over but it really needs to be structurally evaluated and dealt with outside of the theological implications first. Im just using the tool kit that God has available to Him. I believe that for the most part we are on the same page with 'the waters' being Noahs Flood and Gen1:1 and the consequence of having two separate timelines eclipses most positions that people take regarding assembling events in sequences. It is very difficult to think of long sequences happening relative to another short sequence as relativity suggests can occur. Getting both to meet together makes a pretty good mess of things. For clarification: So the Scripture based timeline for the sequence of time is the straight part of the P as imagined inside of a 3D letter. The old earth -longtime scenario is the shape of a question mark - sharing the short straight lower section branching off at the Flood and rejoining at the top (beginning)...... (A simple doubling in size at the point of inflation is not enough to account for the actual amount needed/predicted as part of the work of Alan Guth et al. after him. -I accept that recombinations of separate timelines conjecture can predict a instant change of size but Im not defining an amount of exponential expansion....) I just recognize Creation as being created by God having truth to it as well.(I take Scripture about this being a fallen world or Satans world to be indicative of the choices between good and evil that must be made in contrast to heaven where they are not) And I think it of interest that 'in paradise' and 'in paradox' may be opposite states. I was thinking about paradoxes today in that how quickly we generate that type of situation in our minds. If I say God caused the first thing and created everything then "God created and allows evil to exist" is paradoxical. It is not a true statement because God didnt choose evil. I dont even think it is a consequence of His choice. In Christ an innocent man dies for evil- another paradox and even under the Roman law is traded for a known murderer by rational people! Who trades like that?

Hmmm ok maybe: Anyone who adopts an OEC type theology or accepts (pseudo)scientific evidence of long times must engage in some kind of temporal joinery to the YEC Scriptural standard. Most use a hot doggin’ technique in that YEC Scripture spacetime =1 hotdog and they chop it up to insert the other lengths in between to achieve some final product length. It is messy and ‘bad handling’ because both YEC and OEC spacetimes contain mile markers. But they (including me ) generally glom it on one end or try to formulaic divide it into equal parts here +there...The worst technique is to regrind everything and cast it into new skins and step back and say “Well it’s in there!” without specifically counting the markers out in a sensible way and the YEC community rightfully shakes it head at that type of joinery technique. Wye spacetime joinery is a whole separate category because people have ‘hot dogs fit in hotbuns’ mentality (truth mechanism and measuring schemes) and generally aren’t prepared for information paradoxes at the convergences. If we bring together two hotdogs it automatically doubles in size (inflation) jumbo dog but if the spacetime size remains the same then information has to superimpose and it is easy enough to invoke quantum mechanical ideas here to the narrative. Holding to those same ideas in retrospective analysis however is an ugly mess. Lets say Wye- L the left path is YEC history as written and Wye-R is right hand path OEC of 13.7 bya as recorded or extrapolated recording. For our sake the cross-sectional area is always equal along any path spacetime you chose to be looking at. Between Scriptural truth and Creation (pseudo)‘data’ a P shaped spacetime (graph of the letter P with time as the vertical axis) best resolves the observables and extrapolated ‘knowledge’ with the Scriptural account. Anyone in YEC position can always just say ‘Hey forget all that blubbering!’ because the Scriptural path remains (is given) despite the fact that the physical path no longer exists (to Eden I mean physically seeing the flaming sword) Now, there should be paradoxical statements in Scripture at the pivotal moments to indicate that something like this is happening. They would be paradoxical to things said in Scripture elsewhere. I think they have been commonly pointed out already that: Cain and Seth would only have sisters to marry (strong case) and God ‘remembers’ Noah during the Flood (weak case). “Remembers” can be just a segway. But the lack of non-sisters could be a problem given a law against it later. Neither is very convincing but there nonetheless. So what about the chiastic structure of the narrative? Does that help? 1.God rests after Creation days:: God takes away time from man’s years just prior to the Flood. 2.God creates ‘mankind’(hypothetical reading) :: God destroys all of mankind (literally reading), 2a. God specifically creates Adam as a representative:: God specifically saves Noah as a representative. 3.God makes the land creatures and the earth:: God unmakes the land creatures and the earth 4.God has to re-create earth for saved Noah to have something to land on and is in “Creation” mode 5. God fills the earth with life just as in the days of Creation. “And it was so.” The chiastic structure supports a Re-Creation conjecture. Informational structures inside it contain nonsensical paradoxes when the spacetime doesnt automatically double in size. An Act of God explains it including the Big Bang expansion as ‘recoupling’ (hot dog +hot dog= doublehotdog instantaneously) of the divine spacetime path from The Flood to Gen 1:1. No one has really argued that the YEC and OEC beginnings are not similar. Therefore an inflaton is ‘unphysical’. God is real. A temporal miracle here a the Flood is consistent with my posts about naturalization.

A Y in the road looking back. One temporal line goes to the YEC position the other into the OEC position. Trying to trace the lines of feedback we rely on as truisms will automatically result in a fuzziness. It cant go both directions. Stepping back we try to follow lines of evidence that we have from separate accounts and it s a mess becuase we cant see the structure and the fuzziness of information recombing. Fuzziness is a good indicator to toss it all out whether it is math science or interpretation of Scripture. But quantum mechanics says to expect it! No rational being says these two things are true. The switch is not on and off but to explain it we invoke another dimensionality to hold the uncertanity of the 'state ' of the switch at a given measure. See fuzziness! But more so here in this wye structure there is informational paradoxes that must overlap and both be true. It helps me to think 'there is a paradox nearby and it's going to influence what I can say' if I try to relate x to ys to form internally consistent reality. There is a limit You cant transpose it all 1:1 it wont work and that real experience of what quantum mechanics say is true about the world causes you to toss out these results.

There is temporal structure in the OT that prevents a rational relationship to be developed between the recording that Creation has in it (radioactive decay, geological straitfication, long times ) with Scripture. Scripture doesnt lie as given to us by God and Creation cant lie. The whole history of this debate can be closed by the divergence of truth in the form of wye structures that open around the Creation days and close after Noah and the animals are dispersed into the world after the Flood. These structures imped our rational being and we shake our heads to dispel the thoughts that try to compel us down both roads at once. But they are not lies and half truths! The scattering of hypothetical explanations for the various inconsistencies is symptomatic. To highlight these con/divergences let me ask- why havent the YEC group used Gen6:13 to tell geologists to do what you want? God destroys the earth in the Flood so ANY outcome is possible. It is not connected to Eden anymore. What and how God does it is conjectural and anything is acceptable and unfalsifiable to Scripture. If you wanted to reconcile why not say that ? So I think it is because there is a divergence there that blocks it all and I dont blink. The clock on the ark is the one you have been carrying around all this time in your Bible...trying to count by Creation all the way back to Eden -and Scripture is Noah's clock. Scientists say Creation has a very different temporal reading- OK ! Yes we know or at least we should expect. But the stricter issue between clocks can only be resolved by what Scripture says and implies since e=mc^2 isnt scratched on the inside cover. The rub in the wye comes down to what Noah experiences from the words of God spoken over Creation "Be fruitful and fill the earth!" If Noah sees the world come alive again in a second Creation event and is 'teeming' instantly then he doesnt know that the people he eventually meets didnt get there by divine hand in any unusal way. He wouldnt question when he meets them whether God truly did flood the world. He doesnt question his own experience of all the drowning. These people are 'after' and invited in by God to the prime timeline But the people 'get there' by a separate route and God has to reconnect them in the time that He took off to play Yathzee with the continents and Noahs timeline. This a paradox of truth when it converges! These are the dopplegangers of the Gap theory- not pre Genesis 1 -but intra-flooding. You see an Act of God is a powerful thing. By going back to Gen 1 He infuses that Scripture with the purpose of His visit. There is no preamble to Gen 1:1 where Satan caused a flood and any Scripture you are using to justify that Gap theory is Scriptural support that I encapsulate here that is 'superimposed' on your readings of Scripture as it stands. Your truth antenna are picking the signal up but backfilling a preamble to support that truth or rescue PreColumbian societies from the Flood is incorrect. The people who die at the time of the Flood drown but going back to Gen 1 'waters' is going back in time to undo what he did. A direct route (entropy conserved) would cause deadly paradoxes for the contents of the ark. So any other path is necessarily longer (make 0001000 'different') and even though exact reversal might be in His Almighty power I see that God chooses to save. And while He is destroying the land as known to Noah the forces unleashed would also kill the ark contents so by extending the force/time equation God also saves them from His wrath. I dont have an equation that outputs 13.7 /8 bya but there you have it and continents scrambled every which way. This divergence in time is the key to Creation time and Biblical time. It is a wye structure, possibly at both ends, when God revisits Creation Gen1:1. The expansion of time during Gods wrathful enterprise explains SO MUCH about the history of fallen man and his pre-Christian relationship to that which is divine. The animals are bereft of providence and man sees only the wrathful side of God bent on destruction and not in His benevolent nature at all. During it all God is applying an anti-Creational, degenerative, devolutionary ,negative force to what He created and driving all of it back to the recesses of His brain (thus we perceive the vanishing point of all things that also answers the question of God How did you do it? that we have asked a bagazillion times.). The populations during this time however experiences it in a forward , expanding, evolving universe as per science and they still have the right genetic markers in a parallel divergency scenario.. Natural selection, death rule this timeline because overall God is in His Wrath. Here the ancestors of punished fallen men evolve in the open spaces of time. ..these are the doppelgangers of Gap theory and are they above the animal in their deconstruction? Hence the two bloodlines reconverge at the end of the flood in real terms and perhaps we can rationally make sense of the Canaanites massacre (Ham conjoins with them) and the vigorous lines drawn between Jew and Gentile. Christ changes that and by His Life and Blood and ministry on Earth and in hell those bloodlines can be united once again (part of His Kingdom). And we can withdraw a very symmetrical view of the beginning of Creation and the end with fireballs (meteors) and lakes of fire (molten earth). whew my brain is hurtin' Now it gets tricky bringing everything back together and Is there a cosmologist in the house? Here goes-- the evidence of the flood waters ,because it hides Gods actions from start to finish, is transposed in toto onto the temporal expanse created by the return to Gen 1. I can only explain by the the fact that it can be quantized to the temporal spaces that arise in random amounts. Thus as I previously posted the waters of Gen 1 are the sum of all possible positions of water in the water cycle here on earth. That was overwritten 'information' on Gen 1 redubbed to me by an Act of God in Scripture. I deduced that God created from the well of potentials , not ex nihil becuase there is something there that is without form but devoid of attributes. God calls forth things in Creation like potatoes rising to the surface as you stir the soup. So some variable has to carrying this as the two histories are reconnected and well Ive done my level best. I expect crazy to be the first thing you say about me but try to imagine that wye structure coming back together and the things that are in it. It cant be causal but truth can carry forward in it. How can forces carry truth that isnt casual =information. The doppelgangers are like information neither created or destroyed being revealed and congealed when Noahs groups rejoins and the earth repopulates. FYI When the Flood waters recede it is actually evaporating quantum mechanically and I hope that there is an observable fizz just like when the waves in the ocean wash up the beach! (Salinity is a function of time so watch out on your computations there) Only a God that has revealed His Immortal path through our time and His work, Creation, and Scriptural account in a correct cosmology is THE ONLY REAL GOD. The correct description of a temporal excursion at the time of the Flood is ridiculously beyond the call of men to invent circa 2000BC. And look Im just some average joe that is mentally STRUGGLING past the wye structure in the modern era to connect the truths that I sense in various forms with a reconciliation structure using the modern knowledge of nature. Someone here said that the gap between YEC and OEC was 'unfordable' despite the fact that we all know An act of God will do because here as Ive said the YEC stands but is unfalsifiable, The OEC is given an excursion, the Gap gets a ..well gaps, and the flood waters are quantized locally to all the accounts in time from cultures around the world but acting globally...'weather' you believe it or not. .. I believe the WHY structure is causing our confusion but ultimately -should my words fail -I hope you see that what God did is what gives meaning to some interpreting 'was' and some interpreting 'becomes' and nothing else. This is really the best I can do -the message of salvation in Christ is untouched-I hope it helps you.

Yes implied by I read Gen 6:13(NIV) So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth. He said destroy both. if day is to 24hr then destroy is to uncreate. Because there is no separate account of words then this must have happened during The Flood. Uncreate can be to go back to Gen 1:2 to 'the waters' thus some people see the Flood as global. But Noah has nothing to land the ark on. Eden is gone. The historic landmarks are gone. Mt Everest is NOT the measure of 'the waters'... otherwise it would have been destroyed. In Genesis Chapter 1 God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place,and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. Notice that The sun does not set on His commands unfulfilled. So the earth needs recreated and between Gen 8:15 and Gen9:7 three times God says in various ways : “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. Does the sun set on His command unfulfilled? How do we know He is releasing power in one case and not the other? It resembles Gen 1:28 during the second accounting of Creation days It solves issues of : Cain and Seth wives so that they do not violate rules set down later about marrying you father's daughter. Dispersion of our race in short YEC time "the earth was filled" --keeping in mind that that earth no longer exists if God is true to saying 'destroy the land/earth'. Possible yes but a constant motion of generations towards the horizon expanding territory not forming fixed functional cities with economies. The functionality of an environment complete with food for predators - but yes it could just be Providence until everything gets where it needs to be. genetically everyone is still related to Adam and Eve (doesnt change the observables) and still accounts for the modern observation of a mRNA focal point and carrying original sin at the time of Noah. I respect the power of God's spoken words over Creation and my supposition of Yes! implies that prophets and scribes are required to not accidentally release Creationary power by stating something is to be done...such as the Ten Commandments. It creates problem of:

Then FYI the Scripture that supports his hypothesis is "Be fruitful and fill the earth..." and that it is instantaneous like Creation days. It is repeated at the Flood from Gen 1:28 and Im accepting a literal interpretation. The expansion of the genetic pool is instantaneous according to the Word of God not linear progression...Im not a scientist or a theologian but that's what it sounds like....and the implications are that there never is a constriction and we shouldnt abandon a young earth hypothesis because that earth was destroyed. It is unfalsifiable to science that it existed and all we have left is the genetics of Noah, his family, and the animals on the ark. The seas are teeming when He says they are. The fig tree shrivels at His command!

..back to the OP What do you consider as the population basis at the time of the Flood constriction? I read Gen 6:13(NIV) So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth. He said destroy both. if day is to 24hr then destroy is to uncreate. Because there is no separate account of words then this must have happened during The Flood. Uncreate can be to go back to Gen 1:2 to 'the waters' thus some people see the Flood as global. But Noah has nothing to land the ark on. Eden is gone. The historic landmarks are gone. Mt Everest is NOT the measure of 'the waters'... otherwise it would have been destroyed. In Genesis Chapter 1 God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place,and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. Notice that The sun does not set on His commands unfulfilled. So the earth needs recreated and between Gen 8:15 and Gen9:7 three times God says in various ways : “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. Does the sun set on His command unfulfilled?