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You're only talking what you have been brainwashed. Read the bible! Believe me I was once brainwashed. I just quote the scriptures, and still you did not believe me! I find it funny even if you prove it with scriptures people will not believe what is written, and they will only believe there pastors. Don't you find that sad that even Christianity will support, and say our God is evil enough to throw away everybody in Hell all 6.7 billion, and only 300,000 will be saved this century. I mean come on God is not that evil why would he want to make all the lost burn for all eternity? I just don't believe our God is that evil I'm sorry to say that I just believe our God is more merciful than what we're realizing. Lets suppose somebody find a cure, and it save 1 billion lives, but that person still doesn't accept Christ. Now this person will burn in hell forever. Can y'all see the picture here?

I said do some research before answering. It's not like what we are told. Think about it there is 7 billion people on this Earth, and it's just too many people going to Hell. I took the liberty to do my own research in the end I found out Hell is not what it seem. The Old Testament never talk about Hell, and it's only talked about in New Testament, but it's being misunderstood. I've been in Hell, and yes Hell is real, but it is misunderstood so don't get me wrong. Jesus said there is nothing worst than hurting the little children, and it's a gnashing of the teeth. Luke 17:1:2 Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. 2; It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. It's talking about little children. When it mean little children it just mean anybody not just age it can be all age. Like for an example.... If it will messed with you, and hurt you I can get hurt, and it's a gnashing of a teeth, and if I am responsible for you, and I must take good care of you, and make sure your faith will not be lost. It's just saying it would be better that I be thrown in the sea cause I am loosing the Spirit by revealing too much, and hurting you by causing you to stumble. I may be better off just be thrown in the Sea with millstone cause I would just miss the Holy Spirit.

Heated topic. Of course Christians will say Hell is real, and all will go to Hell if they do not accept Christ. I watch this video, and this video show me that maybe Hell is not as bad as the Bible claimed. *** Removed Embedded Videos - Video are to be placed in the Video forums only, not in the threads outside of the Video Forums. *** I know this is inappropriate discussion simply because this is a Christian site, and it has 0 tolerate if there is anything said outside the bible. But what if we misunderstood the Bible, and it's not what we're told. Jesus talks about gnashing of the teeth, fire, and brimstone. I think he was talking about the little children, and if we hurt the little children we would get hurt while we're here on Earth, and not Hell. Hell is real yes, and when I was here on Earth my jaw has been lock open all day once, and I feel the burn many time, but I don't think everybody will go to hell because they didn't accept Christ. This guy just save 2 children, and if he didn't become saved, and is it fair that he go to Hell after he save 2 children risking his life? We would have to be pretty selfish, and evil if we truly believe all will go to Hell cause I don't think our God is that evil. He is greater than that, and why would he throw away this man that save that two children, and let him burn in Hell forever? This is just my 2 cent, and please do some research what Jesus is talking about when he mention Hell before doing any discussion.

Thanks for sharing.

At least somebody understand me! I am sorta a seer irl some say I am a prophet, but I do not consider myself prophets, or anything, but I do however do expirence spirits, and when I mean spirits I mean many not just one. I hear things, and see things, and experience many things. John 4:14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life." I have met this Spirit that Jesus was talking about that you will never thirst, and boy when I met that Spirit that never thirst it made me high, and it lasted 24/7. I became paranoid it was as if I did real drugs, but it was the most legal drug you can ever have, and it was very powerful. It lasted 2 month, and I had to take xanax, and after it left after 2 month it kept knocking on my door for 5 month, but I didn't know what it was doing till I told somebody about it, and somebody told me to invite it back in. After I invite it back in boom again I was high, and it lasted for a day. Then the next day it left, and it kept knocking on my door for 2 more month, but I have not invite it back in, and I was too afraid of them because I didn't understand. Now it doesn't knock on my door anymore, and I read some where it says it is wrong to quench the Spirit, and it talk about them not coming back again once it leave for being rejected, and now I may never see them again simply because I reject it. Hosea 4:6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. "Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children. Anyway I have seen Spirit that thirst, and seen Spirit that doesn't thirst, and I testify to you that there is truly a Spirit that never thirst, and Jesus was telling the truth.

Nice one y'all! Thank you for sharing!

I've met many denominator, and I feel the fruit from them so feelings is real, and feelings is important. If you cannot feel then you've not have been reborn you must be reborn. I have seen preacher preach that the bible says nothing about feelings, and it's not true the bible talks about feelings all the time. Angel4 I have felt your fruit, and the truth is I don't like your tree, but you do have a good fruit, and see what I mean about feelings? Your tree is why I left for 1 year. I ask God which should I follow Good tree, and bad fruit, or bad tree, and good fruit. God told me follow the one that has both Good tree, and Good fruit. I've met many with fruit, and I can tell if they have good fruit, or bad fruit, or have good tree, and bad tree. I will give you an example so you may understand. Tree = Spirit Fruit = What the Spirit emit Tree can be as rough as a real tree they don't feel that pleasant they can have bark feelings, and low vibration feelings. Fruit they are almost always nice pleasant fruity feelings, and almost always high vibration feelings. Sometime when you upset the Spirit you'll feel the tree part, and the tree part can hurt you, and sometime if you upset it the fruit part will turn bad. Like Angel4 I saw her tree, and felt it, and her tree is rough, and unpleasant, but her fruit is nice it feels like fluffy like cloud, but really nice. You gotta understand everybody has them, and Angel4 is not alone, and what the bible is trying to preach is that through our fruit you shall know them. It's not saying trust all with fruit it just saying use caution, and be wise, and respectful if you don't like it just steer clear from it, and you don't have to put up with it. Don't fall into religion spirit, or cult just find a church that has good tree that bears good fruit without controlling cause I can't stand to be controlled.

I ask this question once, and I got banned for this question ok here I go asking it again. How do we worship God? Do we look in the air into nothingness, and worship God? Do we have to say which God it is we're worshiping like God of Iseral, God of Moses, God of abraham? Do we find the Spirit, and worship the Spirit that comfort us like it's a ghost, and a person AKA "familiar spirits" You did say we are not suppose to worship the Holy Spirit then why do we still say three are one, and all three are God?

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Somebody told me this he told me that Jesus said if it's right it's right, and if it's wrong it's wrong, and that how you know if you are doing right, or wrong. Cause I am a confuse person, and I am trying to know what is my rights cause God is an awesome God he'll give you the whole world, and I don't want to abuse his awesomeness. John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. James 1:17 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

God works in a mysterious way, and there is not enough testimony, or explanation how exactly the Spirit works or other wise I wouldn't be daring asking y'all this question. Repent to me is a form of truth, and I notice the more truthful you are the more you are awakening. When I meantining awakening it just mean becoming spiritual. What is the opposite of truth is it hypocrite, and pharisees? If we live in a lie then we're living in a lie, and not truth. So when we worship in Spirit, and in Truth does it mean we should be honest about ourselves, and be humble and abide in the truth, and accept our flaw as being human? This is the least most discuss topic, and the most vague topic because people would worship, and feel the Spirit, but the Spirit is normal, and does nothing it lasted for a few bit maybe 10 min, or longer then after that it goes away. Is that the part the Bible is talking about? Two type of Spirit to worship. First kind The kind where something within yourself feels good, and it's doesn't last long it appear then disapear pretty quickly. 2nd kind The kind where there is a real Spirit that comfort you, and it lasted 24/7. I did some research some where people think the one that lasted for a brief time are the one that are within yourself like your own self, and the one that lasted 24/7 is actually a real ghost it's an another person in a form of ghost. This is what I am trying to find out how exactly do we worship in Spirit, and in Truth do we worship a Ghost "an another person", and worship something that is within ourselves that is hard to get it out, and hard to pleased if you know what I am talking about. I'm really asking a deep question, and I am really trying really hard to explain without sounding too weird, or too confusing, and after all this is a question.

I can give you an examples just remember Jesus is a rebel. Matthew 9 2And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. 3And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. 4And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts? 5For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk? 6But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. 7And he arose, and departed to his house.8But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men. Luke 14 1And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him. 2And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy. 3And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day? 4And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go; 5And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?6And they could not answer him again to these things. Jesus knew it was right, and he risked getting stoned, but he went ahead, and do it anyway. It's just common sense, and what he is teaching is that God is greater than men, and we don't have to follow men. If I am wrong then why did Jesus break the commandment, and sabbath day, and if he can break it then we all can break the same. Somebody told me this, and I tried to find it, but I cannot find it so all I can do is show you an example, and it does sound right what the person is trying to say about Jesus saying if it's right it's right, and if it's wrong it's wrong.

Matthew 15:14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit." If we follow blindly then we'd fall in the pits so feelings is important, or else we'd grieve the spirit, or blasphemy. 1 Thessalonians 5 19Quench not the Spirit. 20Despise not prophesying. 21Test all things; hold fast that which is good. 33Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Bibles does talk about feelings it keep saying fruits over, and over, and fruits is feelings. I understand why people say we can be deceive, but read this here. Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. I have wittness both trees, and the fruit. Trees are the size of a walnut, and the fruit can be big entire body. The tree can hurt you, and this is the kind of tree I dislike, and I met a person that had a tree that hurt me, and I would try to walk away from that person cause it's controlling. Tree is actually a spirits small from size of a quarter to a few inch. I have the tree, and it's contagion some trees are contagion, and it's best not to water the tree you dislike, and look for the tree you like. Look for the one that is benevolent, and look for the one that has good fruit, and equal yolk without controlling. Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. Wolves is tree, but there is good, and bad tree.

Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. Philippians 4:8 This is one of my favorite verse, but I never knew it was that verse I just heard it from somebody. Jesus said if it feels right it is right, and if it is wrong it's wrong. I tried to find verse for this cause that what somebody told me, and thank you for sharing that!

Matthew 12:31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32: Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. I can testify of this once I had a vision I was bowing down worshipping God, and a spirits pick me up, and shake me up, and down, and start cussing at God because I kept bowing down in fear, and I thank this spirits whoever it is now it made me more tougher, and less fearful. You can cuss, but not at the Holy Spirit! Holy Spirit when you see them respect it at all cost be gentle as a dove, and wise as serpents. I have offend the Holy Spirit many times! It doesn't take much to offend them, and they do come more often than it looks. No matter what if it's fruitful be gentle I don't care do not say it's Satan at all cost cause I did, and I got sent to the Hospital after it touch me in a fruitful way. When I mention Hospital I meant to say repetitively for 6 month in, and out. I met a Mormon, and I felt the Spirit it touch me nice way like really nice, and I called it Satan out of spite because they are Mormon. Even if they are from an another gospels don't even say there Satan if you feel Holy Ghost, and do not say it is what it is even if you do not know what it is.

Yea anyway I didn't come here to cause problem, and if I did I apologies I was only telling you my horrible experience, and I hope nobody has to go through that. I was hoping somebody would be empathy enough to share there love, and not hate me for suffering for trying to be a Christians.

I prayed once asking God to show me the truth. I almost got killed it pulled on my heart, and tug me on the bed one inch down. I thought I had an internal bleeding. I did it again asking God for the truth I felt something unpleasant so I stop. Later on I did it again asking God for the truth it made a hook shape right next to my heart, and threat to stab them. Not once three times. The revelation I have gotten was if we knew the truth Satan has no reason to use us to prove God wrong. So we're not allowed to know the truth. In the end I found out we just shall live by faith, and we can't tempt God to know the truth.

I'm not here to challenge, or to change your belief. I'm here to share my experience, and if I offend y'all I apologies. You need to understand I once was like you, and when I was like y'all I ended up in the hospital. I did however found out there is a universal gift from God that is called love. Love is the only explanation why all have truth, or half truth. 1 Corinthians 13:13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

I was raised Christians, and always have believe in the bible simply because I trust my parent, and my parent was a Christians. I am some what spiritual, and I am able to discern things from other religions, or denominators. This is what I found out. All have truth. If none had truth then there wouldn't be any followers. I'm a non denominators, and I was told not to believe other denominators, and there wrong. Church of Christ I attack them, and I got hurt for attacking them it went through me shot me like an arrow it went through me a few times some type of spiritual attack. I suffer for 6 month I was in agony it was a horrible pain till one day I heard a voice, and I acknowledge it's God, and we had a chat then the next day God set me free, and stop the torment, and I was free, and the lesson I learn here was that even God love Church of Christ. Mormom I also attack Mormon, and the same thing I suffer for 6 month, but it was a different type of attack than Church of Christ it felt like my own soul was leaving my body, and I fought hard to keep the soul in my body. After 6 month I realize we just shall live by faith, and after I accept that I felt peace, and started to improve. I learn we are all children of God, and we shouldn't attack because of there belief, and we shouldn't try to hurt them, or anything. I think God is saying he love all no matter what there belief are, and we should love them just as we love ourselves, or something, and maybe God is trying to say we should not divide ourselves so instead get together, or something? Mark 3:25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. What if this verse here is saying get together no matter how crazy thing sound?

There is a place in the bible where Paul preach about Jesus return everybody sold everything cause they believe Jesus is returning, and Paul told everybody to stop lol. Honestly I did the same thing I didn't finish school for that reason.

23 out of 40 here they do have hard question.

I'm on a God frequency almost 100% of the time, and I can see it through people that they are also on the same frequency. Some people are just a natural at it, and know how to respond to it, but when I respond I go dude hey aren't you noticing that, and they are like so what? I'm really amaze, and fascinated, but the majority doesn't care, and that puzzle me.

Thank you so much for speaking out! This is why I am here I am here to figure out what God want from me. I've been isolating, and censorship. Now for the first time in 10 years I've not been isolated, and thank you everybody for giving me a chance to speak, and a chance to learn! I've been banned in ever Christian community, and they banned me so fast it's getting to the point of where I post my first post, and I'm not getting any answer, but finding myself banned. Y'all have tolerated me, and I want to say thank you for tolerating me, and I still have much to learn, and I have much to become settle in due to lack of socialization, and love.

You are awesome light! Thank you for participating for the thing I was so depriving of! I know that when a person have a gift it doesn't have one they have many, or all, but they have many gifts together. All I know is the first sign of having a gift of discernment is having a desire for spiritual gifts. I guess people can not have desire of spiritual gift, and still have gifts for other thing. Thank you for correcting me.