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Cant' comment on the book, not having read it or even having a general idea of what it is saying.....but here in a nutshell right from scripture i believe is the purpose and plan of God to glorify Himself: Ephesians 3:9-11 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord What does the book talk about, can you give us a little summation?

Amen frienduff thaylorde........very good points brother, and praise the Lord for your salvation.

Okay, being realistic, as women especially we want to nail down more details.......these are just my thoughts to start off with, and let's discuss and see if we can get some consensus perhaps.....the men can let us know if it is sufficient from their end, and vice versa. Clothes for men is pretty easy I think.....just nothing tight or sleeveless, and keep the shirts buttoned of course, pants not too tight either. Women.....certainly no cleavage, keep skirts/dresses below the knee, nothing sleeveless or off the shoulder, tops not tight, any slacks on the looser fitting side. Short sleeves okay for both genders I think in summertime. I don't think we have to hide our waists, wearing a belt or having a blouse tucked in, just my opinion, but I think that should be fine if the clothes are not too tight in general. Men who are working outdoors on a hot day should be able to take their shirts off......again just my opinion..... but women should be able to wear longer shorts around the house on hot days, but not the short-short kind. I don't think we have to be quite as restrictive outside of church or prayer meetings. I think there comes a point at which we all need to take responsibility for our own lusts if we have any and learn how to possess our vessels. Women don't stare at the working men if you are going by, that should not be too much to ask. I personally wouldn't want men getting heat stroke because of my weakness. And men if you knock on the door of a parishioner's house on a warm summer day and the lady of the house is showing some knee, try not to swoon. Or being serious, is that too distracting, or maybe for the younger folks especially......not being a man, I would truly like to hear from the men what they find distracting or not.

I think the meaning of those scriptures is pretty clear and it isn't necessary to splice it and dice it too finely. Be considerate of others because we don't live to ourselves alone.....and don't dress to show off.......for any reason. Dress to please the Lord, not the world. And He said to take no thought for what to wear........if we have to take too much thought for any reason, that's not God. We can fall into a ditch on either side of the road. Just try to be sensible.

I've been wondering the same, frienduff thaylorde......in an increasingly technological and automated world, more and more people are getting marginalized.....and the poor are getting poorer and growing in numbers. Amen.......He feeds the sparrows and we are worth more than many sparrows, bless you.

I think you have raised some good points, sister. It shows for one thing, how poverty is in some ways considered to be relative to the society a person lives in. For example, not that far back in history a dirt floor was pretty much considered normal, rather than poor, but because the vast majority in our society now live with better floors, dirt floors are now considered substandard. More than anything I believe you are showing how oppressed the poor are. In a fallen world the stronger usually oppress the weaker and that's the way it is. This is not so with the kingdom of God though,thankfully! The bible says having food and raiment to be content with that.......and that is the only standard we need to have as believers in Christ.