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  1. Responding to the OP....scripture sums it up this way: 1Co 1:22-25 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. And no matter what kind of mindset we were born with or grew up with, Jewish or Greekish ......it profits nothing anyhow. Because what we should now have in Christ is the mind of Christ.
  2. Hi Abby-Joy.....my comment wasn't a criticism but an observation. Yes, amen to your comment...but I was talking about the specifics of the emotional and mental health issues that people are left struggling with after being abused. The truth that sets us free isn't about facts.......truth is higher than facts. There is a heavenly perspective that we can gain. One example is that from heaven's point of view, all our sufferings in this life are light and momentary troubles. Now that is certainly not to make light of the fact of suffering....because the word also says that in all our afflictions the Lord is afflicted. But to get hold of the truth and lift our vision higher, well it lights our path and can show the way out, in helping to untangle our crooked paths. Another example.....a fact may be that someone has disassociated, or split into alters in their mind......but God says the soul gets caught in the snare of the fowler. Facts only observe the consequences of what has really taken place in the spiritual realm. Hope that will whet our appetites and encourage that there are things yet to be gleaned from His word that apply to all our personal issues, whatever they may be. Truth rather than facts. And not to condemn, but to save. Bless you sister.
  3. I was referring to the issues being discussed. It kind of struck me at the time that I wasn't hearing God's word being brought to bear on the issues....since the answer for every broken human condition under the sun is in the word of God.
  4. Sorry, I might have missed something but I still don't understand the reason behind your OP or whether you were trying to make a point of some kind...? There are things in scripture that appear to be contradictory but aren't really. The example of Paul having Timothy circumcised when elsewhere he preached against circumcision.....i believe thankfully can be resolved. Paul was preaching against circumcising out of a belief that it is required by God, since it is no longer required under the new covenant....he was talking in the context of being circumcised as a work of the Law, and in the context of those who were trying to make Gentiles get circumcised. But it is not a sin in itself to be circumcised..... and so Paul had Timothy circumcised out of expediency in the interests of the gospel, so as to not offend unbelieving Jews unnecessarily, since Timothy's mother was a Jew which made Timothy a Jew according to scripture and in the eyes of other Jews.....it isn't as if Paul was trying to make a Gentile get circumcised. And he didn't do it from a wrong belief that God requires it of a believer, or to avoid being persecuted by the Jews.....but only for the sake of expediency so as to not put an unnecessary stumbling block in the way of Jews coming to faith, where Paul and Timothy were evangelizing together. Hope that makes sense and puts your mind at ease on that, and if you want to bring other things that appear contradictory, maybe we can look at them to see if the Lord will help us resolve those as well...if you want, we can try.
  5. Thankfully we really are not called to write creeds and explanations of God's word, we are only called to read and heed it, and teach or preach it. There are many apparently contradictory statements in scripture that can only be reconciled by the Holy Spirit. And there are factors such as that truth and understanding has to be bought, ie we pay a price for it, as well as factors involving growth, or one's gifts and calling, etc. When anyone tries to reconcile those apparent contradictions logically with the carnal mind, it always misses the mark. Usually there ends up an overemphasis on one side of the coin or the other. I can't properly explain this in a nutshell either........but how I think of it personally is something along the lines that the foundation IS most certainly Christ Jesus alone and faith in Him alone....He alone through faith is the entrance to the kingdom, to the sheepfold. After that we are now His servants and have work to do in helping to build upon that foundation....aka, simply doing His will.....and submitting to being sanctified and perfected, taking up our cross, following Jesus....not my will but Thine be done. Having laid the foundation let us go on to perfection. Instead of doing our former dead works of sinfulness, we now start to do good works through the new nature that He supplies us with via His indwelling Spirit. There are those who 'go and sin no more' who don't have faith in Christ....they are seeking to establish their own righteousness instead of submitting to the righteousness of Christ. Without that foundation on the Rock their building will not endure. All our righteousness is as filthy rags to God. Faith is not of our own, but is of the Spirit of Christ....and the only kind of righteousness that is acceptable to God is likewise not of our own but is of His Spirit. Because when we come to faith in Christ and receive His Spirit, it changes us....our life turns around. And then it keeps changing us more and more into His image and likeness as we grow up in Him. The reason I believe for so many encouragements and admonishments and warnings in scripture about works is because flesh can get in the way of God's Spirit, and of doing His will, and we can be deceived by the devil....His Spirit can be quenched and we are in a war and need to be vigilant and need the reminders and encouragements of His word....not to become slack, not to become distracted by things of this world, not to become lazy, not to become weary, not to fall into sin, not to faint, that we stir up the gift that is within us, etc, etc, and to keep running the race and enduring to the end. His word is our spiritual weapon, it is not against us if it is being used properly, but it is for us to help us in the battle, to strengthen us and help us run the race.
  6. I was looking at your dream. The Lord will sometimes speak to a person and then confirm it with something happening in the natural realm. He spoke to you in your dream and confirmed it with you hearing news of something related to the dream happening in the natural realm....you hearing about the death of George Burns. He was someone who was rich and famous and charming and successful in life, in the eyes of the world....but that is wood, hay and stubble to the Lord, all of which will "burn" in the end. What matters more to God is the simple unassuming question of how he treated his wife. Her name is Gracie and I believe speaks to grace. I don't mean that the dream is necessarily speaking of this couple literally, but He is using them and their names to speak figuratively, in a parable, as it were. The dream seems to be illustrating the same principle as this passage in Matthew 7: Mat 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. I mentioned Babylon, meaning the world and worldly church. The world doesn't judge things the same way that God does. What is of value to the world is dung to the Lord, and what is of value to Him the world pooh-poohs and despises. I hope that makes it more clear....sometimes the more I try to explain things the worse it gets. Just think of your dream as a parable..the Lord is trying to illustrate something. Bless you.
  7. I was only responding to the OP. However, regarding the Law...remember it was added because of transgressions....as a temporary stepping stone to Christ and the new way of the Spirit. Never meant to be permanent but was God's way of teaching Israel that she needed a Saviour. True Christianity is a way and not a system or institution. Dont' want to go off topic but I will just say that Catholicism is very anti-christ. It's very foundation is founded on a man (Peter) rather than on Christ. Who sits in the temple of God (church) proclaiming himself to be God/Christ vicariously and claiming infallibility? Shocking heresy and blasphemy.
  8. They are going about seeking to establish their own righteousness...........instead of submitting to the righteousness of Christ. Watch out for systems....they are the way of the world and flesh. If something is a system it isn't the true Body of Christ. The true body of Christ functions in the simplicity of Christ and of His Spirit who blows where it listeth.....and except He build the house they labour in vain.
  9. I think their names are significant.....and in the end God will not be impressed with all the trappings of outward successes but we will be judged on how we lived our little lives and how we treated others when the spotlight was not us and nobody was looking, because that is what reveals our hearts. God is not impressed with us doing big things for Him, but it's the little things that reveal our true character and how much of the character of Christ has been developed in us. And this is the opposite to the ways of Babylon and the Babylon worldly church.
  10. Amen...Babel. Towers represent the heart of man and devil lifted up in pride......Lucifer exalting his throne above the stars of God. Pride is at the root of the fall and needs to be overcome and put to death in each of our hearts. The cross/wilderness/narrow path is the only antidote. The ministers of the Babylonian church have succumbed to the temptation instead of obeying the Lord and staying on the narrow path....they just keep waxing worse and worse building their towers higher and higher. Built of wood hay and stubble which burns....they cannot stand the test.
  11. I don't know where the OP is going with this topic but here might be a little contribution for what its worth. David was ruddy in complexion, so there are Jews/Israelis who may be ruddy. Remember that Abraham was called out of the "Gentiles" (not that there was a distinction at the time though)...but he was called out of the world (type and ensample of the church). And so was Sarah....so I think we have to consider that the people who we know as Jews or Israelis have a racial background so to speak, from the world. And that maybe they are not even really a separate race, but rather a people, since there are Semites in the middle east considered to be of the same race as Jews who are not Jewish/Israeli. And also keep in mind that terms such as white, light and dark can be very relative and subjective terms or just poetic descriptions. I looked up some scriptures about ruddy/white complexion.....but keep in mind that it is only an outward figure in scrpture written for the purpose of depicting inner purity of character and spirituality, not literal. People of white/ruddy complexion are NOT spiritually superior to those who are darker complexioned. Often the reverse is true if you ask me, especially nowadays when white peoples are becoming worse than pagans, like our ensample Israel of old did......but anyhow outward appearance and racial background matters not a whit to the Lord. 1Sa 16:12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he. 1Sa 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance. Sng 5:10 My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand. Lam 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire The flesh profits nothing anyhow, and a Jew is a one who is a Jew inwardly.....meaning one who belongs to Christ. The Jews were often lifted up in pride against Gentiles and many still are today....this is not pleasing to God, any more than churchgoers and believers who are lifted up in religious pride against the lost.
  12. You trigger spiritual warfare....?? Wow that's impressive!! HOORAY! PRAISE THE LORD!! REJOICE for so they treated the saints and prophets before you! It means you belong to Christ, and it means that you are being an effective threat to the kingdom of darkness. The devil will therefore start to fight back in various ways....with things like discouragement and intimidation, or even with physical problems like illness or accidents. So then you need to also fight back with prayer and patience/perseverence and not faint. This is a marathon, not a sprint, so buckle down for the long haul. DO NOT BE WEARY IN WELL DOING BECAUSE IN DUE TIME YOU WILL REAP A HARVEST, IF YOU DO NOT FAINT! You keep on keeping on, pray, seek the Lord, learn the word and He will encourage and strengthen you. The apostles went through a lot of what you are going through, and Jesus, so you are in good company. Our faith is always being tested and proved, but fear not because God is working all these things together for your good, and it's on-the-job training with Him. Maybe it is His will for you to have a companion and fellow labourer in the harvest....these are dark days for sure so the battle is not easy....but keep praying and seeking God's will and trusting Him. Jesus sent the disciples out two by two. Anyhow, just dont' stop being a faithful witness for the Lord. Be encouraged and trust that the "due time" will come!
  13. "Ichabod" in the old testament. And this in the new testament: Rev 2:5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
  14. Dear brother, I don't understand how one can fall away if they were never standing to begin with....? How I understand eternal security and assurance is that there is assuredly power in the blood of Christ to keep us secure for eternity...if we are in Him. So as long as we remain in Him and don't fall away, we have assurance of eternal security. "Take heed who thinks he stands lest he fall".....so clearly someone who is standing is potentially able to fall. And we need to take heed that it doesn't happen to us. I've never seen so many so assured to a fault, so to speak, of their salvation, so I don't think there is a problem in Christendom with belief of assurance, but rather the problem of lukewarmness is the question of how whole-heartedly one is living for Him.
  15. Night is coming when no man may work......I believe Rev. 22:11 is talking about when the door to the wedding is shut. These scriptures below might be of help to understand the twelve gemstones, and yes the priestly tribe is among them. The church is New Jerusalem/heavenly Zion and is made up of twelve tribes spiritually speaking, as Israel (Israel after the flesh) was a similitude/ensample of the church (the Israel of God). Isa 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels. Mal 3:16-17 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Luk 22:29-30 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
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