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    I asked Jesus what must i do to go into heaven

    It's funny how people assume someone is talking about salvation by works just because they are agreeing with obedience. It's not an either/or kind of thing. Obedience doesn't contradict salvation by faith, and salvation by faith doesn't contradict obedience. The word of God is clear....if you sow to the flesh you will reap destruction and if you keep on wilfully sinning after coming to a knowledge of the truth, there is NO. MORE. SACRIFICE. FOR SINS. Not me saying this...it's scripture.......SO just obey the Lord and sow to the Spirit then. Your choice. End of argument.
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    I asked Jesus what must i do to go into heaven

    Here James is rightly dividing the truth for us: Jas 2:21-26 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
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    I asked Jesus what must i do to go into heaven

    Gal 6:8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Rom 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. What the OP heard from the Lord is in complete agreement with scripture.
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    I asked Jesus what must i do to go into heaven

    Why does it give so many the heebeejeebees whenever obedience is mentioned? Jesus Himself obeyed the Father and told us if we love Him we will keep His commandments.....which are engraved on our hearts through His Spirit of those who know Him. It is the flesh that wants to be contrary to the Spirit within us. The OP was for sure hearing from the Lord.....what he/she heard is completely in keeping with Christ Jesus. Isa 55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. Rom 13:8-10 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Jesus did not come giving us another set of laws to fulfill….He came showing us a more excellent Way (of life). That Way of life is a law of love. He didn’t give us a set of comprehensive detailed rules to obey by our own righteousness and self-effort..…. but what He did was to give examples showing what it means to walk in love and walk by faith. Do not commit adultery, do not divorce your spouse, forgive your enemies, turn the other cheek, etc….because to do otherwise is not love or mercy. Do not worry about your life, what you will wear, what you will eat, do not store up for yourselves on earth….these are not rules/laws per se, but examples of how to walk by faith. And if we LOVE Him, we will endeavour and learn to live accordingly (by denying self) and to obey His voice….if He indicates that we are not to move to a certain place, or work in a certain place, or marry a certain person, then we obey Him out of love for Him.........and sometimes He helps us resist the temptation to disobey with a healthy dose of fear, out of love for us, because it means life for us when we put God before ourselves and our own wants and wishes and tendencies which are contrary to the Spirit of Life. Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Amen!
  5. The so-called sexual revolution has resulted in many young men feeling entitled to help themselves and many young girls feel it is almost an obligation or rite of passage to sleep with guys on a casual basis....they are all believing a lie and nothing is sacred anymore. In spite of lip-service to feminism, girls are growing up feeling that they are only worth as much as their sexual appeal like never before and so they dress and behave like prostitutes. They are being exploited. Campus and date rape are reported as epidemic now.....how sick does it have to get before people wake up and come to their senses....and realize they have been sold a bill of goods?? Such a sad and deplorable state of affairs......and I only pray the Lord will somehow work some good out of all that is going on, exposing the evil on all sides that it needs to be......so that people will wake up. As horrible and upsetting it all is to see.....I pray the Lord to shine His piercing, cleansing, purifying light, because it is needed.
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    Okay, I am not sure what you mean by this sister.....all authority on heaven and earth has already been given to Jesus: Mat 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. I think this passage even shows how we will rule and reign with Him, operating in HIS authority/rulership....for example where Jesus said to His disciples that He has given them authority to tread on snakes and scorpions. The point I was hoping we could bring to this thread is that sitting on His throne and ruling and reigning with Christ, does not mean that we will rule and reign in our own right and usurp His throne/authority, no indeed. We will rule and reign in union WITH Him and in complete submission to Him. Anyway, no worries, I understand you are travelling Marilyn. We can always come back to this later if you like, Lord willing. Blessing to you in Christ.
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    God is still ruling and reigning in the third heaven (heaven) though, is He not sister....In the book of Job, Satan and other angels appeared/assembled to present themselves to the Lord, and the devil needed God's permission before He could test Job. I'm not understanding what throne is vacant in the Third Heaven, if Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Father.
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    How will she be Baptized?

    If someone is really burdened by wanting to be baptized and unable to, they should cast their care on Him, and seek the Lord for His guidance and instruction, or He will give His comfort and peace. (Anytime we are burdened or troubled about something we should bring it to the Lord....sometimes He is even placing the burden on a person for His purposes because He wants prayers to be prayed regarding that particular issue.) I believe it's possible He could lead a person by faith to be baptized by proxy, like some were even baptized for the dead by proxy. But it should be led by the Lord and done by faith.
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    Okay, thanks Marilyn....could you pls bring some scriptures to go along with what you are saying as we go along? ...I'm not sure if I understand the third heaven very well....only that it is talking about paradise. Is this (paradise/third heaven) the heaven that we understand is where God dwells and has His throne now (thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven), and where Jesus sits at the right hand of it. 2Co 12:2-4 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise (G3857), and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. ( the same paradise as these references: Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. (G3857) Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise (G3857) of God. )
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    Amen, thanks Marilyn. I agree....the throne of God is allegorical for His authority and rule......and that He has created and delegated authorities as well, under His. There are those delegated authorities that have rebelled against Him......but His plan is to restore His rule. (He has already done so in heaven, but it still remains to be manifested on earth in it's fullness, as I understand it.) Look forward to hearing more about these things, and see if it will help to guide us in how we are to understand the main topic of this thread.
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    I'm not troubled by those scriptures at all........as I explained (and why), as long as we are rightly dividing them. I haven't thought about His throne in detail before....I see Marilyn C in her post above might have some knowledge of that. Maybe she would be willing to bring a few scriptures concerning that topic. All that is coming to mind at the moment is that New Jerusalem is coming down to EARTH and will rule and reign the EARTH, with Christ. And that in the end, even Jesus will hand the kingdom back over to the Father.
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    I'm not at all implying or accusing you of being so.........just sharing some scriptures for us all to consider and incorporate into our understanding of these things, especially since we are living in perilous days. What you are sharing is not new to me......I've heard others talking about these things in recent years, and shockingly, just as Jesus prophesied, some are saying they are Christ. (not saying you are, and I only wanted to caution that we not go down that road by taking these things too far). God made made man to have dominion (rule and reign) over the earth, and in Christ that power and authority is and will be restored to us when we rule and reign WITH HIM in the millennium. For HIS glory. And it will be HIS triumph over the enemy (powers and principalities). Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see scripture saying anywhere that we will rule and reign with Him over heaven.....the throne that is being talked about that we will sit on with Him, is only a depiction of His rule and reign over the earth, over creation. Restoring mankind to what was lost in the Garden of Eden. What incredible kindness and mercy that we may have a participation in Him, in His nature, in His dominion.....hard to get my head around His incredible selfless love and kindness and mercy. While we were yet sinners and His enemies, He died for us. We only can love because He first loved us. What is man that He is mindful of us........indeed! Just even look around and see the news, as well as the horrible things that proceeds from the heart of man on mass media. I think it was Isaiah who cried, I am no better than my ancestors! Frienduff is so right, that we are only entitled to die, if not for Jesus. Thank you Lord! And this is the Christ that we are supposed to be like........ARE we? Do we love our enemies like this?
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    See that little comma after the word, “…..saying, “ Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And these verses about false Christs and in the flesh in such a way as people will be able to pinpoint where these false Christs are…….whereas the coming of the Lord will be like lightening from east to the west, and every eye will see Him. And He speaks of it further here: Mat 24:23-24 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    Mat 13:34-35 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Psa 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old Hos 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets. Pro 1:5-6 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
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    Are we destined to sit on the throne of God?

    Many years ago I had a revelation that we, as His collective Bride, are His counterpart.....at least that is how He revealed it to my understanding, and it blew me away. As long as we understand that none of this is literal....we are not literally His Body....we are not literally His Bride.....these things are just metaphors, parables, to help our understanding.......and HE absolutely doesn't need us to be.....remember He existed for an eternity before He created mankind.....but it is a great privilege granted to those who belong to Him....and all for HIS glory to make known His manifold wisdom and power to powers and principalities.