Willie T

In effect, this is what this forum tries to be. A place where only certain ideas can be expressed. The online reputation WF has is far too well known..... though hard for other Christians to believe really exists.

All those "Oy Veys", yet not one "Praying for You"?

I think this whole thread is what was spoken of in the Bible about rescuing people... even at the risk of getting burned yourself. And there is no one here who is caught in that Bethel stuff. No one need fear ever being burned because of "warning" anyone here.

Do you speak out against our enemy, sin, or against the people caught in it?

But, you aren't warning anyone. You are sitting on a rather single-minded forum, preaching to the choir.... the members of which are all already singing the same song you're singing.

I offer you an opportunity to actually help in this situation, Cobalt. Open up a dialog with Bill Johnson so that he will feel you are a person he wants to talk with. Can you do it?

I have told you that you will never change anyone by slamming them. Yet, you all seem to want to continue to keep on doing that...... almost proud that they don't want to hear you running them down. I am beginning to think it really might be your secret hope that they will bust Hell wide open. "Serves them right for not listening to our Holy ranting!!!"

Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: "People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious...…" I'm pretty sure those people were not teaching anything about the God of another race.

Actually, Paul did. I just wrote about it in the post above.

Yes. And it is not done at places they never frequent. Nor is it done by shaking our finger at them, telling them everything negative we can think of to say. Even Paul opened his conversation at Athens with compliments on the heathen's high level of religion..... and even continued by using their own poets and philosophers to make a point.

I will repeat it again (for about the fifth time) I am not defending these characters standing at my aunt's grave acting all strange. What I have consistently been saying is that I believe we are just as wrong as they are when we act the way we are acting toward them. And we might be worse because we try to justify not meeting them in love. In truth, do we really even WANT to try to love them? Because getting them to see they are wrong is not going to be done by just throwing some verses at them. (Some of them may already be more familiar with the words written in the Bible than some of us... they just have seen different conclusions.) IT IS GOING TO TAKE MANY HOURS OF SITTING AND RATIONALLY TALKING WITH THEM. Is that something anyone can say they are willing to do? Well it will never happen if we take the attitude that they are to snap and jump because we told them they are worshiping demons. We really are not "all that and an RC Cola."

Oh I am sorry. Were you lifting him up, and I mistook the demon doctrine stuff that was really "encouragement?" And, how can you expect anyone to converse with you when you write only to tell them they are hellbound?

Do any of you feel some of these characters very well may be good people? You talk about them teaching the wrong things, but your words are arrows very personally aimed at them as people.

As I recall, (to answer Acadia. since this post agreed) He asked His Father to "forgive them because they didn't know what they were doing" as they shouted "Blasphemy", and murdered Him.

My compliments. You are a rare breeze of honesty in your answers. "Yes", that is a definite departure from Christianity, and it goes on in the midst of our mainstream congregations all the time.

Kind of a waste of time posting that flood. Not a single soul on this forum has said they go along with their stuff. I said, and I repeat... We are not treating them as Jesus would. (And to what should be our shame, we claim there is nothing wrong with that.)

You guys seem so intent on your mission of "whatever-you-call-it" that you can't even hear what I am saying to you. Show me one instance of where I said the crazy stuff they do is right. You cannot do it. But you want to disparage me because I don't feel Jesus ever told us to kick people because we don't like their practices.

"You did it, so I can do it!" ? I find that thinking kind of interesting. Are you going to report yourself? (Because I try never to stoop to that.)

Paul was speaking of people his audience who were already listening to on a regular basis. No one on this forum ever listens to Bill Johnson. Even you guys just picked up something someone else was telling you about him. I have never listened to one of his sermons to learn from him, and I am fairly confident neither have any of you. (Listening to a selected segment of a video someone told us to watch to agree that it is "heresy" is nowhere near the same thing as sitting under his teaching to possibly learn from him.) THAT was why Paul was warning about those guys.

Gosh, I'm glad you didn't say I wasn't a Christian.

They probably won't. But does that mean you do not keep posting on their sites? Instead, why come to a place like this where none of us would ever think of attending his church, and run him down? Did Jesus go to the Pharisees (and kept going to them), or did He just sit around the campfire with his little huddle of disciples, and secretly talk trash about them, knowing no one else was hearing his words? Sure he warned people (not just those on his forum) but He mainly kept trying to reach the Pharisees, directly, and people listening to the Pharisees..

I don't doubt any of that. I don't happen to think much of Michael Brown either (don't know any of the others because I don't search them out) but I also don't trash Brown on forums he will never see. I happen to think a simple statement about him such as I just made is all that is necessary. If I wanted to call any of them names or besmirch their reputations, I would do it directly in in communication with them.

But, you haven't? OK,I see.

So, then, the honest answer is that you have not contacted him?

Oh, stop playing games.