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That might sound catchy but Cardiovascular diseases are the leading causes of death in the world. Cancer is number two. Even though cancer is more prevalent in adults. It is the leading cause of death among children up to age 14. I'm pretty confident sin is not the leading cause of death among children under the age of fourteen.

I don't think it's not that uncommon. A great temptation? Probably if that's the only thing a person is thinking about. Age has something to do with it too. People in their twenties might be a issue. Probably not for people in their seventies.

More than likely all pollinators. I was reading a study that suggests flowers produced pop noises. It's altrasonic so humans can't hear it but possibly some pollinators can.

Interesting thing about flowers, they can hear. Flowers can quickly increase their nectar content when they hear bees buzzing around near by to attract the bees. I find that quite awesome.

It does appear that verse 1:2 is more of a narrative than a creative act.

Tohu wa bohu appears in another verse too. ישׁעיה לד:יא ...וְנָטָה עָלֶיהָ קַו־תֹהוּ וְאַבְנֵי־בֹהוּ. Isa 34:11 …He will measure it with a line of formlessness (tohu) and with weights of emptiness (bohu). https://www.thetorah.com/article/creating-order-from-tohu-and-bohu Young Earth Creationists have to grapple with earth not being older than 6,000 years. Understanding Genesis 1:2 is secondary. A Young Earth Creationists would just say that happened in the first few hours of day 1.

I figured you would say that, your belief is not evidence it's just your interpretation.

Indeed only God can create life with such wonders that even ponders the unbelievable to Praise the Lord is Awesome. Nature reveals many things of the Creator.

Yom can represent quite afew different lengths. I can't say for sure the day length was equal to earth or the length on another planet in the solar system or on the galactic level. Looking at the words being used, evening and morning. In Moses time there was no mechanical clock. Time was measured by sunlight casting a shadow on a stick and star counting. What was true to them and today is that there is around 18 minutes each evening and morning that light is visible but the sun isn't high enough in the sky to cast a shadow. That was a unknown amount of time back in those days. Imo the days in scripture was written for people back then who didn't know that length of time in those periods about 36 mins each day and today without a mechanical clock. I don't know if the universe is around 14 billion years because there might be stars possibly older than that. But I do believe its older than 6,000 years, pando tree colonies in Utah are around 900,000 years old. Sure God can do such things quickly but having an endless amount of time to create, a presto universe doesn't seem logical imo.

Some orchids have different types within the verity similar to monkeys its kind of wild. Imo chance has no chance to explain why this happens in nature except by design.

Yes they are real, all the plant photos in the thread are real orchids, tree too. God definitely put some details into orchids here's another.

Good point about Jeremiah 4. Verse 27 mentions it wasn't a total destruction. And since things have been planned, some of Jeremiah 4 is still to come. Jeremiah 4 27For this is what the LORD says: “The whole land will be desolate, but I will not finish its destruction. 28Therefore the earth will mourn and the heavens above will grow dark. I have spoken, I have planned, and I will not relent or turn back.” You mentioned poetry, mountains quaking and a searing wind out of the barren heights mentioned in Jeremiah 4 are basically the same thing.

We both have been pushing back against each other.

I flatly deny saying extra days, I'll repeat myself again I said other days not extra days. You don't want to admit you make mistakes sometimes.

The bible doesn't say count backwards in the genealogy to determine Adam's age. So why do people do it? You think the age of those people are for only one reason.

Was I supposed to tell you everything first?

Of coarse I meant it, I believe there is a day one in which verse two resides and there are 5 more days is what I meant but you misunderstood that as in me saying extra days which is not what I meant.

Is there any Scripture that instructs people to back date to determine Adam's age, no there is not, it's a hypothesis. No context is your realization not mine. Jer 4:23 is talking about something else not creation

My heart valve gave out three years ago. Blood backing up into my lungs, hyperventilating 24/7. The doctor was amazed that I was still living. When he came into my hospital room his eyes were like golf balls. He told me that in all his years operating on people's hearts he never seen a valve so clogged up and that's all he said and just looked at me. Which I knew what he meant that I should of had a heart attack or stroke.

I do as well believe the days are time periods and some restoration happened in earth's existance.

Geez you don't explain things to well or remember our conversation. There is no other poster who said anything about extra days. Im the only one who said there are other days. That's when you started referring it to extra days which no one said that. You misunderstood what I said. Evening and Morning can very well mean the sun never fully set below the horizon or fully risen above the horizon. Just like it is at the poles almost everyone knows that. And without the sun, earth wouldn't have a 24 hour day. You don't even mention the two great lights not created before verse 1:2 but well after. I was fully expecting you not to care.

So you think somewhere around 4,000 BCE is when the earth was restored. There are civilization that have been living even before that time. You are the one who is talking about total destruction, I dont have to provide anything. Just because you are trying to squeeze the two verses together doesn't mean I have to as well. They are each in their own context they don't need matching.

Hard not to smile at the rainbow tree.

Interesting are you a OEC and a YER?. Young Earth Restorationist

Somebody said it and Im just the next poster? What does that mean you dont care who said it just accuse anybody? You don't know if earth was spinning a thousand miles and hour if at all. You need midday and midnight to complete a 24 hour day.