R. Hartono
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14 hours ago, Starise said:
Title of this is very misleading, same as the misinformation about Tesla recalls which amounts to a software update over the air.
This info is based on one quarter of sales. BYD cars are less expensive but have less range than Tesla. The cars are ok for shorter routes but have less capable batteries depending on conditions. Elon Musk has said he doesn't expect to be always at the forefront and encourages other makers, even opening up the Tesla charging network to them.
One quarter is just three months. The numbers are close in that quarter with Tesla making 1.8 million cars. Nothing to sneeze at.
There's also the politics involved. The UK, Australia and others allow importing BYD cars. The US will not allow import of BYD due to the battery component sourcing. At least this is the official explanation.
BYD doesn't "beat" Tesla in performance and range. You get what you pay for.BYD has a lot more bling inside while Tesla uses a less cluttered approach. BYD is a 100% Chinese product and I suspect they mined tech from Tesla to make them.
BYD has invented sodium ion battery much cheaper faster charging, longer distance and fireproof compared to conventional lithium.
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On 1/1/2024 at 5:53 PM, Who me said:
The church, as a local organisation of Christians, has the right to fund itself.
If a congregation wants its own buildi g aphid full-time pastor, youth worker cleaner etc etc etc than thatchurchhas to fund those things.
An Israelite had no choice he had to tithe. If that was required of those under the law, what can those who are under grace freely give that exceeds the requirements of the law.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Corinthians 9&version=NIV
2 Cor 9:7 each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give. Not reluctanly or under compulsion.
Its the New Testament, you give what you want to give. Not forced by anything.
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8 hours ago, Who me said:
It was a requirement made by God.
Which shows that your claim is false.
It was a census donation for the Hebrew nation and the church has no right to copy that.
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2 hours ago, douggg said:
To be the AntiChrist (i.e instead of and against Jesus the true Christ), the person must be a Jew
Its the MONEY that Will buy that Messiah title for ac in Israel, not the nationality.
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3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
An 18 year old Israeli is being sent to prison for not serving his king.This teen seems to believe what Jesus taught in the gospel about turning the other cheek and not commiting evil so he is being sent to prison.
What is this world coming to?
https://news.yahoo.com/gen-z-israeli-explained-why-163834719.html
American who refused to go to Vietnam war was arrested too is that right ?
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https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-31.htm
God did save Noah and his family from the global destruction by the flood. God also saved the family of Lot before destruction of Sodom.
Will God also save the families of the saints when the Trumpets of angels sound ?
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2 hours ago, Who me said:
Please read:-
Exodus 30:11-13
Easy-to-Read Version
The Temple Tax
11 The Lord said to Moses, 12 “Count the Israelites so that you will know how many people there are. Every time this is done, each man must make a payment for himself to the Lord so that nothing terrible will happen to the people. 13 Each man who is counted must pay 1/2 shekel of silver. (That is 1/2 shekel by the official measure. This shekel weighs 20 gerahs.[a]) This half shekel is an offering to the Lord.
It was only given once in census for the service of Tabernacle by the Levits.
God doesnt need money to buy things.
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos 8&version=KJV
Amos 811 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
That will be preceded by the darkening of the earth where God will turn the feast of man into mourning and songs into lamentation
Amos 8 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord God, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:
10 And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as a bitter day.
Has this beeen fulfilled in history ?
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Where is the church ?
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4 hours ago, Renskedejonge said:
No but Peter etc got paid. In Holland they often have to work for free, except when a church is really big, but why do that? Why serve rich people for free at the expense of your own family? I went to a church here. A woman started to complain that they started 5 mins too late. Guy said annoyed: Hold your horses. We all work for free here. Unbelievable how many demands some of those people have, but they keep their money in their pockets. Let the pastor go to the food bank on a borrowed bike while they buy a new kitchen. Absurd to serve such people for free.
Paul refused to eat free bread.
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4 hours ago, Michael37 said:
. . . For use in His Presence according to His Will.
Deu 14:24-26 But if the journey is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, or if the place where the LORD your God chooses to put His name is too far from you, when the LORD your God has blessed you, (25) then you shall exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place which the LORD your God chooses. (26) And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household.
You see they don't give that money to the Levit but to buy food and drink for them in Sukkot festival at Jerusalem.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/largest-migrant-caravan-year-heading-open-us-border/
They only bring their desperate bellies.
May God help us
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20 hours ago, Michael37 said:
But . . .
Deuteronomy 14:25 says, “then exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place the LORD your God will choose” 1. This verse is referring to the practice of exchanging tithes for money, which was a common practice in ancient Israel. The money could then be used to purchase food or other necessities for the household 1.
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That Will be used by the Hebrew to buy food and drink for their celebration of Sukkot festival in Jerusalem, NOT FOR GOD.
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6 hours ago, Who me said:
Numbers 18:7 But only you and your sons may serve as priests in connection with everything at the altar and inside the curtain. I am giving you the service of the priesthood as a gift. Anyone else who comes near the sanctuary is to be put to death.”
There is no other mention of death in numbers 18.
Of the tithe and sacrificial offerings, the sacrifices could only be eaten by men in a holy place, while the tithe etc could be eaten by any of the levity families who were ceremonially clean.
The tithe served two purposes, it rewarded the levies for there service and it was for the upkeep of the temple.
Today a Christians offering does the same thing. Pays for the minister, the church building and for other tasks as decided by the church.
The God of the Bible never ask for money.
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On 12/22/2023 at 3:53 AM, Shilohsfoal said:
Since 7th October,I believe Israel has killed more Christians than hamas.
What evidence ?
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On 12/15/2023 at 7:17 AM, AdHoc said:
I think you meant the outer court of the Temple - not the city. That is already a fact.
We all watch the news and wonder. But whatever the nations rage about, to God ...
35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou? (Dan.4:35).
God will decide whether Israel needs more chastising or not. I hear that Tel Aviv hosts the biggest LBGTQ+ in Asia. Now that's alarming. A few hundred terrorists don't make a difference, but Sodomy does
Does Israel own and rule Gaza and West bank ?
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I'm not anti Shemite please don't accuse me so, for asking this question.
Most christians claim that to bless Israel you will be blessed and to curse you will be cursed.
GOD BLESSED ABRAHAM :
What is written in the Bible : Gen 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed,
What is not written in the Bible : Gen 12:3 I will bless those who bless Israel nation, and him who dishonors Israel nation I will curse
When God blessed Abraham, the word ISRAEL was not even existed at that time.
ISAAC BLESSED JACOB :
What is written in the Bible : Gen 27:29 Cursed be everyone who curses you, and blessed be everyone who blesses you!”
What is not written in the Bible : Gen 27:29 Cursed be everyone who curses Israel nation , and blessed be everyone who blesses Israel nation”
AT THAT TIME THE NATION OF ISRAEL WAS VERY FAR FROM BEING A NATION, ISRAELITE NATION WERE DESCENDANTS OF THE TWELVE SONS OF JACOB WHO MULTIPLIED IN EGYPT AFTER 430 YEARS THERE.
God promised that in Abraham all familiies of the earth shall be blessed, it doesn't mean secular blessings but the Salvation of Jesus Christ:
Galatia 3 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
BAALAM BLESSED ISRAEL ;
Baalam was blessing the Israel people who LIVED 3500 YEARS AGO AND ONE GENERATION OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE PERISHED ALREADY IN THE DESERT BEFORE THEY CROSS JORDAN RIVER INTO CANAAN BECAUSE OF THEIR REBELLION.
How could you apply Baalam blessings to the modern Israel nation 3500 years later ? Baalam did not know and did not bless modern Israel.
The above are verses of blessings that people took into their own conclusion, how about the verses of rebellion by Israel :
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Rebellion,-Of-Israel
https://overviewbible.com/ezekiel/
How about Stephen being stoned by the large number of the Jews ?
How about the forty people who fast and swore to kill Paul ? The persecution of early Christians by the orthodox Jews in Jerusalem ?
Ezekiel 12 8 In the morning the word of the Lord came to me: 9 “Son of man, did not the Israelites, that rebellious people, ask you, ‘What are you doing?’
There could be a hundred verses of rebellion by Israel through out the OT and NT, i just can't put it here how prophets and apostles keep writing all iniquities of the Israel. They killed the Messiah and bear the blood on their children so God allow destruction in Judea at 70 AD and the Hebrew were banished from the promised land for 2000 years.
The ISRAEL bar Kokba rebellion at circa 120 AD is the worst defeat of the Hebrew, why God did not curse and destroy the Roman ?
Matt 2725 All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”
Will God bless the people who bless the rebellious nation ?
I'm not banning anybody from blessing Israel, i'm not anti Shemite.
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Our Bible says about the holy city trampled down by gentiles and what is happening now will possibly fulfill it as Palestinians demand Jerusalem, and nations supporting them via UN, and UN just bringing their end times agenda for antichrist to negotiate the "peace deal".
Revelation 11 : 2 Jerusalem shall be trampled down 42 months.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 11&version=KJV
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At circa 85 AD John received Revelation at Patmos island and Jesus message to the seven churches, none of gentile churches built by Paul was mentioned.
Have they perished already when Nero persecuted Christians circa 65 AD ?
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